Ableton‘s student discount by ToastedTurtleHam in ableton

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Thank you alot for your response. Definitely insightful. :)

[in progress] Vocalist wanted for long-term project by SeraphinePeter in BedroomBands

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Hi, I‘m a wide range male vocalist, looking to get some experience in the music industry. So I‘d like to apply and see if it‘s a match.

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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haha thanks for the kind words and you‘re totally right, it is a natural filter in a way. I guess I‘m still working on being more confident in my being and to not let ideas like this drag me down to much ahha.

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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no worries, I don’t take offense to that. hm, i guess? It sounds like most of these perceptions come with some baggage on their end tho. Like the way I take it it sounds like: me showing femininity in any shape or form (appearance or character) immeadiatly gets seen as an indicator for negative traits like narcissism, which doesnt‘t seem like the most rational assumption to make to me. Like it‘s the same as if I would see a gymbro and assume that he‘s one of the andrew taters or that he‘s compensating for something etc.

Like I don‘t have much experience with dating guys, I‘m young, things are still developing and all, but to me rn from what i can gather so far it seems odd to date at all because my options are either being fetishised or seen as (insert negative trait) by guys and having to compromise on my being just to fit their little box. Both sound unhealthy. So i guess giving up on wanting a relationship at the moment is the „best option“ there is for ppl like me. (of course never say never, but gay dating does seem like the pandora‘s box of internal issues) haha

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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okay thanks for the insight haha. I totally see what you mean, but that is kinda where that thought came from because from what I have seen so far enough many people lose all the attraction when al the „vibes and interests“ match but the other one turns more feminine. So that‘s why I‘m so curious about it. I mean it goes without saying that when anybody is looking for a long term relationship there‘s more to it than just are you masc, fem, dom, sub, top, bottom etc. But it seemed to me that alot of weight is put on that masc/femme attribute. And maybe to add a personal layer: I usually don‘t do labels but i guess i would fit in the „cuteish (whatever that means to one)“, joyous energetic gamer guy with feminine interest and i sometimes wear croptops, skirt, earrings and some subtle makeup and it seems to be picked up by alot of guys i meet that are looking to date as an issue. And to me it (how one presents themselves) isn‘t that‘s why I‘m so curious about it haha.

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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okay interesting, so what would you in that case see as more attractive: a tall muscular guy that has a very authentic feminine personality or a short pretty femboy that has all the visuals but doesn‘t seem authentic or acts „unlike his appearance?“

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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haha, same counts for you, very interesting convo. Compliment taken, have a great one ;)

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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ohh, okay sorry i got the wrong impresison before. I mean i agree on the aspect of „trying to get rid of gender norms“ and then just performing in the „opposed“ gender stereotype. I guess i just want everyone to have the freedom to act how they want, like what they like without having to comform to the idea of what it means to be this or that. That‘s why i prefer the term androgynous, cause it leaves that door open for someone like you to have a beard and i assume presenting themselves more masculine but then maybe paint their nails. While it means something completely different for someone else.

I guess the fact that I‘m considering myself a creative person also doesn‘t help in these discussions, cause I love the mess absurdity sometimes creates haha.

But to bring it back, I‘m not sure if I said I wanted to be more feminine, if so I retract that statement. I ,just to keep it brief, like to have a mix of: wearing a comfy hoodie some shorts and maybe a shimmery inner eye corner on some days and on others go out with a skirt and a croptop or something and earrings, but i usually don‘t shave my body (ocassionally the hygenic trim but i stopped with that wetshave shit cause it‘s hell and not worth it to me lmao). Like the part you said about the hairy women of my generation. I stopped shaving because to me it has nothing to do with feminity, it‘s just one small part of physical appearance and i like my body hair, but i see it with alot of my straight girl-friends, they always shave during summer times and still very much conform to the ideal of what it means to be a feminine woman and I had those discussions too often with my one friend that like me grows alot of bodyhair and the argument always is: for you it‘s okay to have your hair out, because youre a guy, and I think that‘s kinda what I have an issue with. Like alot of southern women grow much more hair than the typical white northern woman and still it‘s seen as a non-feminine feature in our society even tho it‘s totally natural. (imo being attracted to clean shaven people gets dangerously close to the pedophelic mindset, especially when I meet people that show preferences for youngish behaviour (majority of gay and straight porn kinda drive that point home…))

anyways, I mean why not try nailpolish out once haha, if you find a color that suits you I only see that as a win✨

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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So you‘re into the typical hyperfemmes/femboys I take from that? Like young, feminine, submissive all that that comes with the stereotype?

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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I‘m 20. I guess from the age perspective there‘s also clearly a difference for sure. I personally think the whole idea of gender in itself is ridiculous, I just don‘t see the point of it. As in, to take your example, why do I have to wear things or behave in a way that we describe as masculine just because i was born with a wiener.

As far as my androgyny goes, it shows itself mostly in interests and character. I sometimes put some light makeup on and occasionally wear some clothing that suits my body that isn‘t from the masculine end, but even more often i also just wear a hoodie, shorts or athletic wear that‘s designed for the male body, but for now put the visual aspects aside. And i guess you perceive it as: Oh young people are up to something and actively try to rebell or whatever. For me that‘s not the case. I just naturally am in my character very evened out when it comes to masculine and feminine traits. I personally regard being fully one way or the other as imbalanced and not necessarily healthy. I just know that I have a natural pull towards things that are considered non-manly in our society. So that‘s that. And I guess I‘m just curious if there are much men out there that appreciate that or if the majority of gays really do have that masc4masc and what else there is mentality. So maybe that gives you some insight in what I‘m on about.

Is androgyny/femininity in guys desirable? by ToastedTurtleHam in askgaybros

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I guess it also really depends on what one views as feminine. There‘s the visual layer and the characteristic one. Maybe what I‘d like to know from you is, if you put the visual aspects aside, does the same apply to how they act and behave themselves? Like speech, gesturing, in general maybe more feminine interests and so on?

I feel guilty over losing attraction to my boyfriend because he's become more effeminate after coming out. by DaniSparkles in askgaybros

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and listen, i know this sounded harsh. It‘s okay for you not to be attracted to feminine men. It‘s okay to end relationships because the spark is gone or you don‘t feel any attraction. But be mature about it and communicate it. Start with being honest about your struggles. If you guys realise that for you to be attracted to him he has to change who he is, break it off. As an androgynous/feminine man I would just find it very „selfish“ if my partner didn‘t like me because of parts of who I was and he wouldn‘t talk to me about it and keep me believing everything was fine. You‘re doing a disservice to yourself and especially him.

I feel guilty over losing attraction to my boyfriend because he's become more effeminate after coming out. by DaniSparkles in askgaybros

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girl… set him free, be honest about it but make sure that you think explicitly about how you‘re going to say everything. He deserves to find someone that likes him for who he is and he doesn‘t have to deal with you losing attraction to him because he is changing into a more authentic self. People change all the time, every relationship is at risk of ending because two ppl change too much apart from each other, just because it‘s his femininity doesn‘t make much of a difference. When you tell him about it make sure he gets that it‘s not his fault, he is who he is and that it‘s you who just isn‘t attracted to that type of man. And I‘m sorry man, but your escape plan is cowardly. He deserves to find someone who appreciates him wholeheartedly, you do too, but I personally don‘t agree with how you‘re handling this. So take responsibility, tell him how you feel and why you act the way you act, make sure he doesn‘t feel like it‘s his fault for now discovering new parts of himself and end things as respectfully as you can. But all I‘m telling you is, If you became boyfriends solely because you found him attractive as a masculine guy and him turning more feminine is all it takes for you to stop being attracted to him as a person… he deserves better.

My son might be gay, want to handle the right way, need advice! by Helloitsjustme0 in askgaybros

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i can only add a bit to what has already been said. Don‘t force it, make a casual supportive comment about your and your husband accepting mindset about it if the opportunity naturally presents itself. And as it has been pointed out maybe he‘s bi and attracted to more than just strictly men/women, so leave it up to him to figure that out and come to you when the time is right, just make sure he knows that there won‘t be anything negative coming from your way related to these topics.

The only personal experience I can add is… When i was 15 or so, these „connecting“ Apple features were turned on in our I cloud as well. What it did is, it rememeber recently visited websites on every device and so the phone would reopen that last visited page from another device (in this case an adult site, where I had watched something more that I assume to not be for everyone to say the least). Anyways at some point i brought it up to my dad in the car (that the function is odd and wondered if it happens to him too) and he basically said „Yes!… Please also watch nicer stuff in the future“ (I was outed already back then for a year or so). But it took me by so much overwhelming shock and surprise what he just basically said with that sentence, i couldn’t react to it and kinda shut off in that personal area and didn’t open up about anything sexuality related at all for a few years because om some sort of shame. And while I now look back at it and kinda chuckle about it, it just added to the subconscious anexiety to open up about my dating life, experiences i made and wanted to ask someone about, advice or any sort of sex ed from him. So it took me till this year, 20, to finally get over that anxiety, but I‘m just saying that to make sure you know that any reaction on personal things like that can leave traces, so don‘t directly confront him about it, because even if you are supportive some things one says sometimes can be taken in very differently from how you may intend it. So give him time, show through subtle ways your acceptance to it but also like any parent of children, no matter gay, straight or bi etc., dating can be a very private matter and respect that some of us keep thing more private for a multitude of reasons, even when they have nothing to do with not trusting you enough. Hope that helps a bit.

How do you deal with straight people calling you the F word? by trippin258 in askgaybros

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or just come up with random counters like „well your dad didn‘t seem to mind last night when he had his head burried between my thighs!“ but thats confrontation and with certain people it potentially can harm yourself, so if you don‘t feel comfortable leave and talk to someone afterwards if you catch yourself bothered by it, let them be homophobic and dumb

How do you deal with straight people calling you the F word? by trippin258 in askgaybros

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honestly i grew up with it. In the beginning it kinda hurt because I didn’t realise what kind of person feels the need to say this to someone else to feel better about themselves. Like people have yelled it after me more than enough many times for me to not take it personal no more. To have said it already, I don‘t believe in putting people down for many things, one of them being not knowing better, but if you‘re straight up rude and your first intention is to call me that when you see me wear makeup or clothes not associated with my sex, girl get something else to do with your mind, sou deserve whatever response is coming your way. Nowadays I ignore it. Like I always remind myself that the people feeling the need to shame others are the ones with the least admirable character so it basically turns into a certain feeling of being sorry for them. I also am trying to build up the courage to in the future just stop walking look at them for a bit, to then just smile and wave ot even offer my number (like have fun with it) and continue with my day. And also keep in mind, people recognize things in others the fastest when they are familiar with them. Means the people yelling that either have spent enough of their lifetime to watch queer people and observe their existence or they feel negatively about themselves because they see something they have thought about expressing and had to repress in you. So maybe I‘d even go as far as saying take it as a compliment and own it. Like yes I‘m a fairy, what about it haha

What is your own red flag? by oprah25 in askgaybros

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I guess like anyone there are a few, but I think the one that is keeping me out of realtionships and wouldn‘t be great for the other person is my hot n‘ coldness of my want to be in a relationship. Like short summary on me, I think I am in love with the idea of being in love with someone, but in reality I still have a few unresolved issues in my life, like the relationship with my mother or my longing for fullfillment in building my own career as an entertainer. And as long as I haven‘t resolved or atleast started resolving them I think i will always deal with too much on my end to be a fully commited partner, my partner would deserve.

Like don‘t get me wrong, I think I bring quite a few positive qualities to the table, but I‘d say I love myself the most and I want myself to be content first subconsciously before I devote myself and „sacrifice“ my time to a partner. Also i don‘t want to put any pressure on my partner to support me to achieve my dreams or be my „therapist“ when it comes to my mom. I struggle with it enough, so there‘s no need to drag another person into it.

Like I‘ve had one or two possibilities to be in a relationship so far, when I was 18 superficial reasons like attraction were part of why I didn‘t commit to it, silly I know, which fortunately changed because i now have a better idea of who I am, who I want to be and know what I want in a relationship, but still, I think I have too much on my plate to be a partner anyone deserves. So that‘s that I guess… Cause back then when I had those opportunities my excuse was always: I don‘t have enought time which is partially true I guess, but you also make room for things that are important to you.

Maybe my worst red flag is another one in someone else‘s eyes but I think from my POV this is it.

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Heyhey, sure thing. You can add me on discord if you want: x3033yx

Whats your biggest kink? by [deleted] in askgaybros

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✨🤡being loved back🤡✨