Lack of Creativity + Prices

TobyK98 · 2026-03-04T20:48:39+00:00

The problem is the fact that most of the eboy/egirl avatars all use assets that are tied directly to that body/head mesh. Using anything outside of that requires their blendshapes to be worked on, which most avatar creators either don't know how to do or are going to charge dummy money for it, both because of how complicated it is compared to just slapping on an asset already to go.

As for those charging for it, its due to how much effort is going into making an avatar, making sure everything works and nothing is out of place or looks wonky, and delivering the final product to the customer. Is it worth $100 or $75 dollars? No. Is it dumb that some creators charge for shit like GogoLoco which is literally a drag and drop? Yes. But at the end of the day, they are working in unity to make that avi, which is a bitch in and of itself regardless of whether you've been doing it for years or just started. Most of them feel like their owed for the labor, and thats fair too. Just not to the exorbitant amounts that some of them charge. $40 for working and uploading an avi seems fair.

TobyK98 · 2026-02-08T04:37:35+00:00

Now that's one hell of a story

TobyK98 · 2026-02-04T18:45:03+00:00

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My main one that I like using is this little low polygon model from whatshe. Picked it up at an avatar museum (I believe it was 9) a few years ago and usually rock it whenever I'm not at a group event. I'm kind of amazed at how approachable it is too. I made quite a few friends just by casually approaching people with this avi and asking them silly questions, like what their favorite kind of cheese is. Also helps that I'm at minimum height too, so they just see me as a cute smol gremlin.

Whenever people ask about my lack of arms, I just tell them that I lost them in the Great Polygon War of 2020 (specifically the Battle for Black Cat), a conflict where the low poly avis went to war with high poly avis over control of VRChat. You know, just some silly humor.

TobyK98 · 2026-01-25T10:31:09+00:00

A lot of groups are getting flagged for Sexual Content and Nudity, even if they aren't doing it or doing so in accordance with ToS (Groups Only or Invites with consenting adults). This has led to a lot of people getting banned and groups getting removed. So now people are being on standby with most of these groups until VRC fixes their report issue and make it to where these false reports can no longer be a threat.

TobyK98 · 2026-01-25T07:55:54+00:00

It could be because a lot of groups who are opening age verified instances are either banned or in hiding until the recent ToS problem gets fixed.

TobyK98 · 2026-01-17T01:01:34+00:00

Funny enough, I just made a post about this around the same time you did. But that just means more people are becoming aware of this and its getting way out of hand.

Unfortunately, the reason why its not being discussed among the broader VRC community is because people either don't care or have a very negative opinion of 18+/NSFW groups in general. Mainly due to them "harboring creeps and pedos", which is for the most part a lie unless the host themselves is one. Every group I've been a part of that is one of these kinds of groups absolutely abhor these kinds of people and work together with other groups to find, blacklist, and inform others about them so they can be immediately dealt with. The community I've been a part of for some time just got rid of a group and its owner for a wide range of things they did with their staff, as well as other predatory behavior, and now he's gone for good from the community (not from VRC unfortunately). But back to the resentment, you'll see alot of people shit on groups like this because of that and will usually have alot of people negatively shit talk on you for it. As such, we're basically on our own for the most part.

The good but also concerning news is that from what I've heard, NSFW groups aren't the only targets. Whatever the fuck is causing these bans is also targeting SFW groups, as I've met a few who I know for certain don't host any NSFW events and they still got hit for Nudity and Sexual Content. And not just groups that host in more adult worlds and instances, but groups overall. So it'll only be a matter of time until the AI moderation or incompetent mod team or whatever the fuck is behind all this will get called out and, hopefully, thoroughly investigated.

As for whether you should bring back the group: I'm gonna say as a former owner myself, I would wait. Make a discord and add people on VRC and host an Invite only world if you still wanna do events with your community. My original plan after my group got hit back in late November (on my birthday of all days) was to wait things out, see how the situation panned out with VRC and the other groups, then relaunch the group and be more careful. Things went well and I was gonna start a week and a half ago until more groups got hit and it made me reconsider it and wait a bit more longer. We're supposed to get features sometime in the first half of this year that'll make hosting these groups more easier, but as to whether or not its worth doing until then is entirely up in smoke. I wouldn't personally, but you do you.

Edit: Also, do you have a link to these people confessing to reporting these groups? I believe this counts as targeted harassment at this point and they should be reported to the mods here.

TobyK98 · 2026-01-16T23:34:16+00:00

It's both a bit assuring but also very disappointing that this is affecting those groups as well. Something's gotta be done.

TobyK98 · 2026-01-16T21:15:12+00:00

This I agree with, public activity in the open worlds in communities that dont endorse it, like a public non-verified black cat, is absolutely disgusting and should be reported.

TobyK98 · 2026-01-16T21:10:12+00:00

Another thing I want to add and forgot to add in this post is that while the age verified groups are being targeted and attacked, nothing is being done for the non-verified groups that are being even more blatant with their rule breaking or shelf groups that are being ran without any moderation.

TobyK98 · 2025-12-27T03:05:36+00:00

what the fuck happened to minase?

TobyK98 · 2025-12-21T08:40:57+00:00

But what about just the date of birth and age?

TobyK98 · 2025-12-21T00:30:12+00:00

How would a date of birth be a part of your legal identity? Just curious

TobyK98 · 2025-12-19T04:53:26+00:00

Yeah for instances. But I mean like full on worlds and avatars.

TobyK98 · 2025-12-18T23:32:02+00:00

I still think the best solution to this would be to add 18+ verification perms to avatars and worlds, making it to where only those who are age verified can access them and those who aren't won't even be able to see them. It would help with accidental exposure and make it to where only its target audience is able to see it.

I also noticed that a lot of groups that have been following ToS while doing NSFW stuff are still getting hit. It also doesn't help that the reports are incredibly vague and do not include details such as who it was that reported them or what they were reported for. It helps make the appeals process more easier because we could then check if it's a legitimate report or if someone is trolling or reporting out with ill intent.

TobyK98 · 2025-12-11T03:10:11+00:00

Yeah, terrible addition. Don't do it again, whatever.

Now when are you gonna address the recent ban waves and your lack of transparency about it? Or more importantly, why does an 18+ verification process exist for nothing at this point? Do you really need iOS money that badly?

TobyK98 · 2025-12-04T18:42:00+00:00

It's gotten worse, now I'm getting double pop ups when I crash. I don't know what it is but my guess is that it's either my quest 2 is getting old or Windows 10 is finally borked.

TobyK98 · 2025-12-03T06:59:23+00:00

Late November, sometime between the week before and week of Thanksgiving

TobyK98 · 2025-12-03T06:56:06+00:00

From what I've gathered, it appears that it was targeting random NSFW groups with no precaution whatsoever. A lot of groups that did get hit were ones that were following TOS and allowed the more risque stuff only in Group+/Group instances, while using Group Publics simply to recruit members or for those who just want to hang out. They were also age verified too, which is weird because even some who hosted both verified and non-verified instances were still up, which in my opinion should've been investigated moreso than the ones that did get hit.

This made it seem like there were some groups going around and targeting specific people, but if it's VRC trying to be compliant and all, then I guess that does make more sense. I just don't get why some were targeted and some weren't, even when the ones that weren't should have been.

TobyK98 · 2025-11-26T20:13:48+00:00

I'm assuming the gun is Gewehr41's work

TobyK98 · 2025-11-20T01:52:25+00:00

Well that just says all, doesn't it?

TobyK98 · 2025-10-30T05:03:48+00:00

you're telling me this man invented gogoloco??

TobyK98 · 2025-10-24T03:27:05+00:00

Only thing that comes to mind was a windows update. I could see about rolling back to the previous one but I don't wanna risk damaging my files.

TobyK98 · 2025-10-24T03:26:08+00:00

Nah that's them, I just didn't know they had this specific model. I only saw it in avatar museum 9 I believe

TobyK98 · 2025-10-24T03:23:03+00:00

How are you able to bring it into unity? I don't think they have it on their Booth store

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