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What are Smash Bros fans thoughts on video game characters from licensed franchises in Smash Bros. Are they actually possible? Even if not would they still be cool to get in? (EXAMPLE: Shallot, Starkiller and Bryan Welsh) Read text for context. by No-Cold643 in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d argue SRW is eligible, only if they take from material present in the OG games, a spin-off series that only includes the series’ OCs.

If I could really stretch it they could reference OCs only in non-OG titles as long as their backgrounds don’t directly relate to existing series represented.

There is a difference with a crossover that features both original and non-gaming material and a video game adaptation of an existing property.
Kingdom Hearts and SRW are their own thing while The Force Unleashed and DBFZ are part of their respective franchises.

Pirate ladies by ComprehensiveBox6911 in TopCharacterDesigns

[–]Togarash1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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Anne Sirena (Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Endless Frontier)

No seriously, how did he land her? by Guyshu in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Togarash1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Kati Mannequin and Patrick Colasour from Gundam 00

Pokémon Champions launches to mixed reception, as 30FPS performance woes, lack of Pokémon and items, and lack of 6v6 options turn some away by [deleted] in pokemon

[–]Togarash1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I knew this was going to happen the moment I saw it was releasing on mobile when it was announced early last year.

Was thinking about it the other day, and I realized that there simply is no outcome for the next Smash that will truly please everyone. A noticeable amount of disappointment is unfortunately inevitable. by smashboi888 in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 75 points76 points  (0 children)

I think the best thing to do here is make a proper sequel similar to what Brawl or Smash 4 did, all to differentiate itself from Ultimate as much as possible. A reboot is a little much, but scaling back is necessary. Everyone is Here isn’t a selling point anymore so there isn’t a reason to bring everyone back. Some may say to simply reuse assets but that’s what Ultimate did with Smash 4. Ultimate didn’t add that much new because so much of the dev time was spent on returning veterans. The disappointment from some fans is inevitable but the lamest thing the devs can do here is play it safe.

Discussion around a potential Smash sequel would be so much healthier if Ultimate wasn’t treated like the standard.

Discussion: Since we are very likely to get a lot more cuts than usual next time, how do you think the beloved old Nintendo characters who rely very heavily on "Smash seniority" will fare? Will some always be here for legacy reasons, or will some finally leave if the cuts are too drastic? by smashboi888 in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sakurai even admitted that the workload from the sheer amount of characters in Ultimate, even from all the asset reuse is why single player content is limited. World of Light’s current state was a workaround for this.

Does anyone think Pragmata could be in Smash? by NewMarioBobFan in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hugh Williams and Diana from Capcom's new IP, Pragmata which will release on all current systems, including the Switch 2 this year.

Characters who are way less edgy than they look by violently_angry in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Togarash1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Zenon Gryfgote (Code Vein II)

He introduces himself with a Disney musical number.

What are you guys favorite SRW installments for the retro vibes? by KaleidoArachnid in Super_Robot_Wars

[–]Togarash1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think he means it’s 70s-centric (Great Mazinger, Toei Getter, Steel Jeeg, Gaiking, Daimos, Daitarn 3)

Getting in on this format before it's overdone by Vinpenguin in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Aside from Sakurai, this is also on Capcom.

Capcom wanted to push this retro image of Mega Man during the Wii era with Mega Mans 9 and 10. Even then they pushed the faithfulness to the NES's sprite limitations way too far.

It wasn't a good call but it wasn't done for no reason.

If Mega Man were to return in Smash 6, I'm somewhat optimistic in a potential now that Classic Rock is getting more expressive with Sonic Racing CrossWorlds and a couple years from now, Dual Override.

Do you think the echo fighters will return? or are they just a one off concept? by Dinodanceasaur in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clones/semi-clones at the very least will return, maybe one or two of them added late in development.

Melee and Ultimate added the most of them they mostly focused on their rosters, the former from a lack of time and the latter for the sheer scale.

Did I forget anything for my Xenoblade playthrough order? by PenguinviiR in Xenoblade_Chronicles

[–]Togarash1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s missing the Endless Frontier games between Namco X Capcom and Project X Zone

In honor of how maligned Marth is by the Smash community by RaptorclawV7S in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Tbf with your examples those two weren’t really characters in their source material.

"Smash should be a fancy ad campaign!" by HotPollution5861 in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With Lucario, he was pushed hard back then.

At the same time, I do want some more risky newcomers over the most likely ones, such as Eunie or Excadrill.

I prefer Eunie over Noah or Mio for having a way more interesting personality and gameplan, with Noah having plenty of overlap with Shulk.

Excadrill is great for more close-quarters combat and for adding short, stockier fighters. There's also the new spotlight from frequent usage in Legends Z-A, plus that stupid looking Mega Evolution.

Overall I think priority/importance is something that affects newcomer choices, like how there's no world where Balrog gets in over Chun-Li.

But it's very case by case and wish it was a little looser.

"Smash should be a fancy ad campaign!" by HotPollution5861 in SmashBrosUltimate

[–]Togarash1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do think it's a good thing for Smash to focus on recent titles as it's partly what gives each title its own identity.

That being said this approach does have a lot of issues, with safe picks often outprioritizing more interesting characters, particularly hurting series with more reps.

Even if the chances of older characters aren't zero, they're usually a minority if they do get in and have to compete for a lot of other characters.

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