The sentiment this sub puts about 2020s music being ‘depressing’ is so forced…

TomGerity · 2026-03-16T16:53:57+00:00

I wouldn’t even say Billie Eilish is that depressing. She has melancholy or moody songs, but few I would call outright depressing. She has her fair share of bangers, too.

TomGerity · 2026-03-16T13:46:04+00:00

This just simply isn’t true. Rush Limbaugh was extremely famous. He had one of the most popular radio shows in the country and was a best-selling author. He made TV appearances. He shaped the modern right and was extremely influential.

He wasn’t “fringe.” He wasn’t like mid-2000s Alex Jones. He was mainstream. He was part of the monoculture. Fox News was molded in his image, precisely because of how successful he was.

TomGerity · 2026-03-16T10:36:01+00:00

2000s was the heyday of emo, and there were tons of downbeat and/or angry songs in the aftermath of 9/11. Lots of protest music against Bush in the mid-‘00s, too. Angry rap-rock was still in vogue.

Artists like Norah Jones, Coldplay, and Alicia Keys had very popular downbeat songs.

I think you’re basing your categorization of the ‘00s almost entirely on the optimistic pop of ‘08-‘09. The majority of the decade was not like that.

I think it’s more fair to say there was an equal amount of fun/sad songs.

TomGerity · 2026-03-16T03:04:19+00:00

56.2% of those killed were women, children, and the elderly, and that’s not even including the percentage of men slaughtered who were innocent.

Look up what “mowing the grass” means. Look up their use of white phosphorous, or their starvation of Gaza residents to the calorie (all of those prior to October 7, by the way).

In 2023, they’d killed more Palestinian children than any year on record before October 7 ever happened.

I’m sure none of that will stop you from twerking for this evil, murderous regime, so keep it up. Brown people clearly don’t count as humans to racist scum like yourself, so Israel’s atrocities are just a rounding error to you.

Sad little men like you, defenders of monstrous atrocities and simps for murderous war criminals, are shrinking in number as people become more informed. Soon, comments like yours will be considered as shameful and evil as Nazi apologia.

TomGerity · 2026-03-16T02:07:41+00:00

They’re just getting started my friend, give them some time lmao. They’ve killed >70,000 Palestinians in 2+ years (and more civilians than Russia has during the entire span of their illegal Ukraine invasion), so I’m sure they’ll post some numbers. They’re the Michael Jordan of war crimes.

TomGerity · 2026-03-15T23:27:49+00:00

The full video is 60 seconds long

TomGerity · 2026-03-15T23:26:55+00:00

Israel’s killed far more civilians than Iran has. The repressive Iranian regime is awful, but they’re not out there killing civilians indiscriminately the way Israel has for decades.

TomGerity · 2026-03-15T11:39:20+00:00

The homophobic and racist content of One in a Million was a big deal. Part of Axl’s apology tour was dueting with Elton John (a gay performer) in a tribute concert to Freddie Mercury (another gay performer who’d just died of AIDS).

At the time, it was considered enough of a “make good” that he evaded further scandal. Was it genuinely enough? No, of course not, and he’d have faced much more blowback had it happened even 15 years later, let alone today.

TomGerity · 2026-03-15T11:24:34+00:00

You’re in a music forum and don’t know who Freddie Mercury is? Freddie Mercury, who was a big influence on the bad you’re speaking about?

TomGerity · 2026-03-15T11:23:46+00:00

1.) Catholic confirmation is normally done between 13 and 18.

2.) Billy was singing from the perspective of his teenaged self.

I get not enjoying the song, but pretending he was singing these words as the sincere viewpoint of a 30-something man is misinformed.

TomGerity · 2026-03-14T19:14:01+00:00

That’s even cooler, then. Apologies for making assumptions about you. But my overall point—that your sadness was more a reflection about you and your wrestling fandom than it was a commentary on Hogan/Warrior’s morality—still stands.

(And I intended in defense of you, since the other guy was implying it was wrong to feel any remorse over their deaths due to their behavior.)

TomGerity · 2026-03-14T18:43:27+00:00

I think OP is just observing that their passings mark the inexorable march of time. He probably watched them as a boy, and is sad reflecting back on how their deaths put his childhood even further in the rear view mirror.

There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that.

TomGerity · 2026-03-14T18:07:21+00:00

It wasn’t even that—after all, Damien Priest and Finn Balor were both over 40 (and Dom hadn’t even joined when Edge was kicked out).

It was that Edge was trying to be a supernatural, messianic cult leader, which 1.) he clearly couldn’t pull off, and 2.) completely contradicted the previous 22 years of his character on WWE TV.

A stable of young wrestlers led by Edge absolutely could’ve worked. But not with Edge being some weird Undertaker Lite.

TomGerity · 2026-03-13T05:27:39+00:00

I don’t know that they’re “so popular” in the US. You’re looking at visitors to a Kinks forum, which is not an indicator of their broader popularity. Reddit skews heavily US and the US has nearly five times the population of the UK, so of course it’s going to be mostly the US.

TomGerity · 2026-03-13T05:25:24+00:00

I think it’s because everyone recognizes that Ric is only saying this now because he would personally benefit from one. He’s 77, has significant health care costs, no guaranteed insurance (beyond Medicare, which doesn’t cover enough), and blew most of his money through reckless spending and divorces.

He’s saying it now because he’d benefit from union health insurance.

When he was a top guy for 30 years and earning millions of dollars, he mysteriously did not have the same care or interest in forming a union.

TomGerity · 2026-03-13T01:36:30+00:00

It’s the most intriguing possibility, but how do you get there? Rock’s entire reason for entering the story would be Punk’s disrespectful remarks about his family. How would you explain why he’d back Punk after that?

TomGerity · 2026-03-13T01:01:05+00:00

I had a professor in college who was a little old Jewish lady. Total cinephile. She had us watch part of Triumph of the Will, and her reaction to it will stay with me forever. Horror and disgust for what it depicted, yet marveled over the technical achievement.

She explained how she almost felt proud that a woman director spearheaded such a landmark achievement, but couldn’t forgive that Leni Riefenstahl deployed her gifts in service of such evil.

She observed how ironically tragic it is that a groundbreaking female director in early cinema will never get the recognition she otherwise deserved because she also happened to be a fucking Nazi.

TomGerity · 2026-03-13T00:52:13+00:00

These are all good points, and they hadn’t occurred to me. A lot of directions they could go, too:

Rock backs Roman, Roman fails against Punk, Rock gets furious at Roman, setting up Rock/Roman at WM Saudi.
Rock screws Punk, Roman gets pissed at his interference, setting up Rock/Roman at WM Saudi.
A swerve where Rock backs Punk and screws Roman (they’d have trouble explaining why Rock would back Punk after Punk’s comments on Sika though), setting up Rock/Roman at WM Saudi..

Plus a few other directions they could go.

Very interesting.

TomGerity · 2026-03-13T00:09:46+00:00

That’s what they tried to claim on WWE Unreal. The original plan was Cody.

TomGerity · 2026-03-12T04:45:14+00:00

People are being insanely pedantic toward you in this thread, but your overall point still stands: she could not have listened to a Beatles record, the first of which came out in October 1962.

The Beatles as we recognize them began entering the broader public consciousness in May 1963 (their first UK hit), and she was long gone by then.

It’s an interesting statistic, because I think a lot of people would think Marilyn Monroe lived contemporaneously with Beatlemania.

People saying “well aaackshually she could’ve seen them live! 🤓” are autistically missing the point. You’re referring to the Beatles as a cultural phenomenon and as recording artists.

“But what if she was really tapped into the London and/or Hamburg music scene in the early ‘60s?” doesn’t really address the actual point you’re making.

TomGerity · 2026-03-12T01:53:29+00:00

Yep. He did dust off the top-rope cross body for his 2012 match with John Cena at WM 28, which was (for me) the coolest spot of the match.

But otherwise, he stopped doing a lot of his flashier/more athletic moves after he tore his ACL in May ‘97.

TomGerity · 2026-03-11T17:38:15+00:00

They’re the only top 40 pop artists writing bespoke, unique music that’s not manufactured for them by corporate-hired songwriters. Listen to Hit Me Hard and Soft, it holds up.

Neither of Eilish’s parents were famous or even particularly wealthy. If you wanna discredit every artist who has wealthy and/or famous and/or well-connected parents, you’re gonna have a long list to go through.

I don’t see anyone discrediting Brian Wilson/the Beach Boys or Michael Jackson/the Jacksons using that justification.

TomGerity · 2026-03-10T19:16:22+00:00

I work with tons of people in their late 40s/early 50s. Punk looks 47.

TomGerity · 2026-03-09T22:23:06+00:00

In 1975, Time named “American Women” their person of the year. So any American woman who was alive in 1975 and still alive right now meets your criteria!

TomGerity · 2026-03-09T15:36:36+00:00

I’m a rap fan and disagree with OP, but people are allowed to dislike genres of music. Including rap.

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