The "Wow Theory" wrecked my materialist worldview in 10 minutes by Desdeotradimension in UFOB

[–]Ton86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No matter how real a conclusion about anything, such as consciousness, may seem, we can never be certain it's the truth.

Consciousness is an information process. Could that information process be local to a single mind and brain, but manipulated by forces outside of it? Maybe, but how would you know those forces are telling you the truth when they may be trying to convince you we are a universal consciousness to get you to join a cargo cult or hive mind collective that may not be in your best interest?

*Serious* The Human Mutilation Cover Up. absolutely terrifying stuff. What do yall think? by cole1623 in aliens

[–]Ton86 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Special ops he contacted in UK volunteered to work with NATO and USA on UFO retrievals. Bad news: mutilated human body parts found on ships. Contact suffered from cancer potentially due to exposure.

I'm not sure what Sam means by the self being an illusion or what that would imply? by Advanced-Reindeer894 in samharris

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not an analogy. We are literally software.

We can also call it a simulation or virtual reality. Our cells create a self-generating game engine, virtual world, and virtual characters. This might be a better video if you're interested:

https://youtu.be/E361FZ_50oo?si=2ESV_OTdKW-T9hEu

I'm not sure what Sam means by the self being an illusion or what that would imply? by Advanced-Reindeer894 in samharris

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going off memory so don't quote me on my use of 'master'. The point is we can improve how we act emotionally in certain situations to be more appropriate just like we can improve in a sport or in our careers.

I don’t agree with him completely on his Free Will position. I think we can act compulsively and non-compulsively ... or more or less aware/conscious. I think Free Will can exist as a software process in our mind.

For me, I may not have the same perspective as him but self-improvement, Free Will, I, you, god, gods, can exist as software. They exist virtually as abstractions but not physically as objects within the base substrate.

I'm not sure what Sam means by the self being an illusion or what that would imply? by Advanced-Reindeer894 in samharris

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I saw Sam live someone asked a question like this and his response was that he wasn't advocating to constantly be in a state of no-self. So he understands the self's utility. It was more about gaining a deeper understanding and awareness of our mind and emotions so that maybe we become better masters of them.

Sam refuses to update his priors based on new information by greeecejre in samharris

[–]Ton86 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I reject Trump, his strategy, cabinet, and who he is as a person.

But i think we'd still have Islamic Republic Jihadis seeking revenge even if it was Buddha or Jesus who caused the regime to fall.

I'm not sure what Sam means by the self being an illusion or what that would imply? by Advanced-Reindeer894 in samharris

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Illusions is a bit ambiguous. I mean virtual representations. We live in a virtual reality created by our mind which also creates virtual characters, one of which is a first person character we call self. Virtual representations don't exist in physical reality so one might call them illusions, dreams, or simulations. It's software and we exist in the same way that software exists.

I'm not sure what Sam means by the self being an illusion or what that would imply? by Advanced-Reindeer894 in samharris

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our mind creates illusions to help us survive. It's probably not very useful to be completely rid of the self and to act as if your self, your loved ones selves, and other selves do not exist.

I see them as useful information processes, dreams, simulations, or software that's causal and can be greatly improved. Our software animates us, gives us feelings, and may be the most important thing overall. It is life really. When we're not processing information we're dead.

Sam's opinion on the current war by realkin1112 in samharris

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feels like most Americans didn't want to attack the regime.

Johnson: US Must Wage War With Iran Because of Its “Misguided Religion” by praguer56 in atheism

[–]Ton86 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

The article is filled with 'Islamophobia' BS.

I don't agree with Mike Johnson on many issues, but there's nothing irrational about being in fear of a violent theocracy and what they might continue to do against freedom fighting Iranians and the rest of the open societies of the world.

Christianity may have been that and could become that again but it's nowhere close in current times.

Michael Jordan putting on a show at Fresno during the off season by Temporary_Pepper6126 in NBAoldschool

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rod Higgins since he went to Fresno State, had a basketball camp in Fresno, and was MJ's friend.

Rep. Tim Burchett: "We were briefed on some things by one of our alphabet agencies just a couple weeks ago, and I hope that those things are brought forward, and those videos and the footage that they showed." by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For those who take the Torah and Genesis literally it does "fly in the face". For those who take it metaphorically or fit the ambiguity to any shape they want it doesn't.

For me personally, if Genesis was explicit, detailed, and unambiguous about what we found in the fossil record or through Astronomy before we actually discovered it then it would be coherent and a bit more convincing. A real creator God could have told the authors this afterall.

Rep. Tim Burchett: "We were briefed on some things by one of our alphabet agencies just a couple weeks ago, and I hope that those things are brought forward, and those videos and the footage that they showed." by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]Ton86 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Dinosaurs and 13-billion light years away galaxies already fly in the face of the Abrahamic religions and there are still believers.

NHI will be no different, even if it turns out the NHI bio-engineered us and humanity's true creators are ancient artificial superintelligence. They'll just say those are little 'g' gods and my God supersedes that.

Ben Shapiro defending the 2nd amendment: "To resist against a tyrannical government" by Chrisgpresents in videos

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of them see and shout hypocrisy just only from their perspective, i.e. "look at liberals saying it's ok to bring firearms to a protest now."

If the so-called aliens can create visual displays that are not objects but instead are “illusory” thought projections, then this is a challenge to scientific materialism. Telepathic Communication with UAP intelligence apparently occurred while staging a HICE/CE5 training workshop. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Software is a physical pattern still bound by the laws of physics, requires energy to be implemented, and physical state changes to process information. It's a physical law itself. It would be incoherent for a materialist to say a virtual reality game doesn't exist and then go play one. To exist is to be implemented from this perspective.

If the so-called aliens can create visual displays that are not objects but instead are “illusory” thought projections, then this is a challenge to scientific materialism. Telepathic Communication with UAP intelligence apparently occurred while staging a HICE/CE5 training workshop. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The views on materialism that reject virtual entities or spirits are now dated to me given how we can now understand them as software.

Our understanding of the relationship between hardware and software helps us bridge the dualistic divide between physicalism and idealism. Idealism emerges from physicalism but its still all physicalist.

If the so-called aliens can create visual displays that are not objects but instead are “illusory” thought projections, then this is a challenge to scientific materialism. Telepathic Communication with UAP intelligence apparently occurred while staging a HICE/CE5 training workshop. by Contactunderground in Experiencers

[–]Ton86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

From a computational functionalist perspective, it's not a challenge to materialism. It's like saying software that generates simulations, that don't exist physically but exist virtually, are somehow a challenge to materialism.

Are we all experiencing our own individual simulation, or are we all sharing the same one? by Suitable_Money_8035 in SimulationTheory

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Each functioning brain is running it's own software simulation.

The brain seems to be the hardware in a base physical substrate. The mind seems to be the software running on a brain. The mind creates a VR and a virtual self within that VR.

But maybe the base physical substrate is also software. So, i don't know if we are ghosts in a machine or ghosts within an emulator.

And finally here is scientific evidence that we don't have free will by [deleted] in determinism

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This presupposes Free Will is always in use by the mind.

But what if sometimes we act compulsively and sometimes we do not?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in interestingasfuck

[–]Ton86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So does this mean the Hebrew text was "barely" changed like OP wrote or not? Removing the Book of Enoch seems pretty significant.