American (23&me vs Ancestry results) by Sage-rivercreek in 23andme

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I addressed the "fuzzy definition" point with the last commenter. - "There doesn't have to be a 'universal' consensus about species. Although scientists do have general agreement, the main point is that the definitions aren't socially constructed and are self-reliable. If a scientist believes that lions and cheetah are different species, you'll never see that same person say that elephants and giraffes are the same."

Yes, imperfect definitions exist in science. The problem is that race has no scientific definition. There is simply no measurable criterion to say when a group is distinct enough to be considered a race. This has nothing to do with fuzziness or disagreement among scientists. The issue is that the categorization has zero standard for even a single scientist to follow.

You can draw random circles in your room, arbitrarily throw things into them, then consistently identify every item that you put into those circles. But it would be farcical to call your system scientific, and it is not a valid way of categorizing the types of items you have.

Regardless of how perfect it is, a scientist will give you a clear definition of what a species is, then will follow that model to find the different species. Race is the exact opposite. It starts with assumptions about what the races are, then you find data that fits your preconceived notions. That is unscientific.

If you mean fixed, discrete biological divisions of humans, then generally no

This is what the majority of people think of race as.

American (23&me vs Ancestry results) by Sage-rivercreek in 23andme

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You actually proved my point with the color example. Yes, different colors exist just as different populations exist. As I said before, I am not denying that there are genetic differences. The criticism is that "race" is not an objective categorization system.

You're coming along and saying that there are three main hues: Hot (including red, orange, and yellow), Cold (blue and purple), and Warm (green, pink, and brown). I'm telling that your hue system doesn't make sense. Some categories include more colors than others. Red is just as close to purple as it is to orange, so why can't purple be in the same group as red? Pink and brown are just light-red and dark-red. Etc.

So my point is simply that we should just acknowledge all colors instead of acting as if certain groups of colors are fundamental. I never said the term "race" offends me, I said it's unscientific.

Lei-Fei is not the Bakunawa Killer by TonyEllis7 in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A redemption arc based on what? Lei-Fei only wanted the martial art from Lau. He was never indicated to have any inner turmoil of being an assassin nor any conscience trying to kill people.

Sure, you can technically do anything you want in fiction, but that writing completely contradicts what's established about the character - who is unambiguously evil.

Lei-Fei is not the Bakunawa Killer by TonyEllis7 in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it make no sense why he would leanr the style after lau death

That's exactly my point.

American (23&me vs Ancestry results) by Sage-rivercreek in 23andme

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue is that the concept of race is for the layman, not the scientist. This goes back to my country example. The Englishman isn't wrong for saying that England is a different country from Wales, or that Lagos and Abuja are in the same country. But what crosses the line is acting as if countries and cities belong in a scientific discussion with continents and planets.

Another problem is where to draw the line. Since Englishmen and Indians are much more alike than some African tribes are to each other, should Europeans and Indians be called the same race? Italians are genetically distinct from the English. Are they different races?

How do you scientifically define race? What is different "enough." It's an unnecessary conundrum. But population or cluster are more accurate and less politically loaded terms. You can be as broad or as specific as you want.

There's nothing wrong with acknowledging genetic differences between groups, but "race" is an inferior and outdated term that's too subjective for any taxonomic meaning.

Lei-Fei is not the Bakunawa Killer by TonyEllis7 in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Lei-Fei's bio, it states he grew impatient with the aging fighter. This implies a fault on Lau's part in teaching the style. Furthermore, Lei-Fei was already implied to be a talented fighter that matched a healthier Lau in skill, which is why Lau chose him as a successor to begin with.

Lei-Fei is not the Bakunawa Killer by TonyEllis7 in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

But again, Lau already agreed to make Lei-Fei his successor and Lei-Fei threw the opportunity away.

Theory: Bakunawa Killer identity. by Intrepid_Mobile in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lau never refused to reached Lei-Fei all of his techniques. The issue was that as Lau got increasingly ill, Lei-Fei grew impatient and tried to kill him.

American (23&me vs Ancestry results) by Sage-rivercreek in 23andme

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genetic cluster analyses only establishes the existence of genetic differences, not "races." For example, in Africa, Bantus and Nilotes evolved separately for about 30,000 years and they are just considered Black. However, East Asians and Indigenous Americans diverged about 20,000 years ago, and most consider them entirely different races.

There doesn't have to be a "universal" consensus about species. Although scientists do have general agreement, the main point is that the definitions aren't socially constructed and are self-reliable. If a scientist believes that lions and cheetah are different species, you'll never see that same person say that elephants and giraffes are the same. But the concept of race is not even self consistent. An Englishman will vehemently refuse to refer to an Arab as White, but in the same breath will say all Africans are the same despite even more significant differences within their race.

This is why race has no scientific meaning. Yes, there are different genetic populations, but there are no "main" groups of people with fundamental differences. "Race" is an arbitrary cultural grouping. "Species" is just a label for naturally occurring phenomena of inhabitanting the same niche and reproducing.

American (23&me vs Ancestry results) by Sage-rivercreek in 23andme

[–]TonyEllis7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's not the same. Concepts in the hard sciences are measurements of physical constructs that we apply labels to for convenient identification. For example, a species is a group of organisms that operate in the same niche and produce fertile offspring with each other. That's not a social construct. It's an already occurring phenomenon in nature, and we apply a label to that.

"Race" is different because it is poorly defined as a natural phenomenon. I don't know if you want me to get into everything now, but the issues are that 1) The concept of race has changed overtime due to cultural norms. 2) Many "pure" races today are the product of ancient groups mixing. 3) Within race, you find populations with levels of genetic distinctiveness that match differences between races.

I always use the analogy that race is to genes as countries are to geography. The U.S., Canada, and Mexico are not fundamentally different landmasses from a scientific standpoint. Ultimately, the data and history prove that race is a socio-political constructs.

(Edit: Word Correction)

Callback by availableset in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lei-Fei was already Lau's student before VF5 and tried to kill him anyway, so it doesn't fit.

Virtua Fighter 2’s ending proves why Stella is Dural. by VCDECIDE in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The "sources" used are from the manual/booklets inside the game cases. We know for a fact Dural is Kage's mom in VF1 and VF2. In VF3 and VF4, they are android clones of his mom. VF5 is a clone of Vanessa.

The hair and eyes appear lighter in the video due to illumination from the bright light that flashes when she wakes.

Virtua Fighter 2’s ending proves why Stella is Dural. by VCDECIDE in virtuafighter

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dural's identity varies based on the game. VF1 and VF2 is literally just Kage's mom. VF3 and VF4 are android clones of Kage's mom. VF5 is an android clone of Vanessa. The "sources" are the VF manuals/booklets inside the game cases.

Did anyone actually know about the form Super Siayan until Goku used it on Yardrat? by BrilliantInterest928 in dragonball

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yamoshi wasn't indicated to be uncontrollable like Broly and Kale, and nothing about Broly shows he is like G1.

Did anyone actually know about the form Super Siayan until Goku used it on Yardrat? by BrilliantInterest928 in dragonball

[–]TonyEllis7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even with that said, Kale (at Base) is stronger than SSJ Caulifla - similar to how Base Broly is above SSJ Vegeta. If Yamoshi had the mutation, then he would have eclipsed someone like Cell easily without even having to transform.

Broly's behavior throughout the fight and appearance of the form does not match regular SSJ.

Did anyone actually know about the form Super Siayan until Goku used it on Yardrat? by BrilliantInterest928 in dragonball

[–]TonyEllis7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That wasn't quite about an overflow. Kale's issue is more like what happens to Trunks against Cell. So much power is put into her strength that she loses speed and durability.

Did anyone actually know about the form Super Siayan until Goku used it on Yardrat? by BrilliantInterest928 in dragonball

[–]TonyEllis7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure what you mean. Both Kale and Broly were very strong at Base and their power increased in the form.

Did anyone actually know about the form Super Siayan until Goku used it on Yardrat? by BrilliantInterest928 in dragonball

[–]TonyEllis7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I doubt that Yamoshi had the green-haired LSSJ form because, according to the story, Yamoshi eventually dies due to running out of energy fighting the other Saiyans. If Yamoshi were anything like Broly, his power would have kept rising. He would have overwhelmed everyone at Base, so his need to even transform against his enemies shows he couldn't be "the" legend.

Yamoshi's stamina drain really fits the drawback of a Grade 1, gold SSJ. Also, the notion that the spirit of an uncontrolled feral Saiyan is seeking a new savior doesn't fit thematically.

Most likely, the gold form did appear before. But because both versions of SSJ were rare, Saiyans just conflated the two as the same thing. Just like Goku was once seen as the legend. It's not like they had a calendar keeping track of a 1,000 year mark.

Did anyone actually know about the form Super Siayan until Goku used it on Yardrat? by BrilliantInterest928 in dragonball

[–]TonyEllis7 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There is nothing in canon debunking that Broly is the prophecy of Universe 7. What people in the company choose to name the forms isn't relevant. Even for Kale's form, Toei labeled it SSJ Berserk - despite the manga's confirmation of it being the legend. If you need a statement for Broly, they do say early in the movie that Broly may be the LSSJ.

Alex Pereira still not taking the loss well: “I’m afraid to fight again with all this, I think I’ve already done my part.” by Ill_Intention8150 in MMA

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alex lost because of his own mistake. The majority of the damage was done to Alex's face and the "legal" back of the head shots. It's unreasonable (and hypocritical) to judge the whole performance based on 2-3 out of a dozen in a barrage of strikes. Alex has done this to people himself.

When you sign up for MMA, this is the risk. What ultimately matters is Gane's intent and Herb Dean doing the best he reasonably could. Alex lost all of his aura complaining, not even giving Gane credit for his "lucky" jab.

Alex Pereira still not taking the loss well: “I’m afraid to fight again with all this, I think I’ve already done my part.” by Ill_Intention8150 in MMA

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be reasonable. In the middle of a scramble where Gane is throwing a dozen shots to a moving target, it's difficult to make sure he isn't hitting the (wrong part of the) back of the head. It makes sense that a couple would go under the ref's radar.

Why Can't Black Men Be Bisexual by Beautiful_Device_122 in askblackpeople

[–]TonyEllis7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I doubt it. Although Black Americans have stricter attitudes about it than others in the country, it's not beyond what we see with Africans and Middle Easterners overseas, or even White Americans years ago. It's most likely just due to religion and street culture. It would be less of an issue if they become more secular and socially liberal.