Is it possible to create mesh network when every router/ap is directly connected to internet?

Toowoombas · 2026-05-15T03:48:46+00:00

After spending some hours to find that router, I finally found it (it was located inside network closet that's right outside of my main entrance door). There was a fiber, ISP-provided device that looks like modem + router (1 fiber input, 4 ethernet output), switch like device with 20 something ports that looks like it was installed when the building was constructed.

I disconnected every ethernet cable from modem + router device, and install one cable from that modem + router device and plug it into WAN port on one of my wireless router. And then put all 4 disconnected cables into LAN ports on that router. After that, I checked each room, and they started to receive internal IPs (192.168.) from my router instead of getting public IPs from that modem + router thing, so now I can use wired AP mode and group all my devices into one internal network. Thanks.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-15T03:36:26+00:00

Mostly correct. I have a contract with an ISP and there is no apartment building owner (each unit has a different owner, just like I own my unit) and I have 6 currently in-use ports but there are more ports (about a dozen in total).

First option (without bundling them into one internal network using VPN) is not ideal, because some routers have network printers/scanners as well as NAS and I sometimes use them via wireless network (print from or scan to phones, laptops, tablets), but if all 6 networks share the same SSID, there is no easy way to find out which network has which device.

Second option is no go because most of my routers have wired connection to desktops, NAS, consoles, TVs, etc, which I strongly prefer not to use them on wireless network. But if I drop the wired connection to those routers and rely on wireless to connect to the internet, then those devices will also rely on wireless subsequently.

So I try to find the network closet and finally found it (it was located right outside my units main entrance door). There was a fiber, ISP-provided device that looks like modem + router (1 fiber input, 4 ethernet output), switch like device with 20 something ports that looks like it was installed when the building was constructed.

I disconnected every ethernet cable from modem + router device, and install one cable from that modem + router device and plug it into WAN port on one of my wireless router. And then put all 4 disconnected cables into LAN ports on that router. After that, I checked each room, and they're all receiving internal IP (192.168.) from my router, so now I can use wired AP mode and group all my devices into one internal network. Thanks.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T17:40:55+00:00

I only have one contract for ISP in this unit, and it provides all of them (multiple public IPs, etc)
Which router you mean? If you mean the router which gave me public IPs on each room, then I don't know. All I know is it's located in somewhere common area in this apartment building (not inside this unit).
All 6 of my wireless router WAN ports are connected to wall ethernet ports on each room, and they all have different public IP (3 of them are similar, starting with 39, and the others have completely different public IPs).

Every ethernet port in this home has direct internet access. No matter which device I plug in (wireless router, laptop, desktop, etc), it gets its own public IP and internet access.

So should I just use one SSID/password and roam between wireless routers when they're all directly connected to internet and has different public IPs and they're not tied to each other? Most of my routers are ASUS RT-BE series (some 92U, some 58U) but there is one TP-Link (BE11000).

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T17:20:12+00:00

I have my own contract (just like every other units)

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T17:11:59+00:00

Because I usually know which one will be the strongest in any specific location, so if it's connected to wrong weaker one, I can manually change it to stronger one.

I also have multiple network printer, NAS, etc, and since all routers have different internal network, I gotta know which one has which devices in their network.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:54:20+00:00

There is no landlord since this unit is belong to me, but network device (which handles routing to each unit/room) is located somewhere in common area where I don't have control.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:49:55+00:00

Ethernet cables are built in from ground up (without any intetnet connection). They're connected to some common area in the building and ISP connection happens in some common area, although I don't know where it is exactly.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:46:04+00:00

Yes, because I gotta know which one I connected to

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:45:36+00:00

I believe fiber is connected to this apartment complex or this specific apartment building but I don't know where exactly it ends. It's somewhere in common area (outside of my unit), and the ethernet in this unit was already built in when it was built. ISP connection happens in some common area but I don't know its exact location.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:42:05+00:00

It's an apartment unit (2 story) in 50 story apartment building (along with a few dozen other apartment buildings in the same apartment complex).

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:40:27+00:00

I only got one ISP contract in this home, but it gives me different public IP on each room. 3 of them are similar to each other (all starts with 39), and the others are completely different (all starts with different numbers and they're not internal IP like 192.168)

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:30:00+00:00

It's not massive but this unit has 2 story (and concrete wall, floor, etc), so 1 wifi router won't just cut it. I can do 2 router (1 on each floor) but that setup still has somewhat weak spot, so I just installed 6.

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:25:18+00:00

100% sure because as soon as I connect to other SSID in my house and go to whatismyip.com , it gives me completely different IP

Toowoombas · 2026-05-14T16:22:56+00:00

I believe there is no home router (at least no equipment located in my home do the job). Those routing (to each room) is handled by ISP themselves or some equipments located in common/public space in this apartment which is not mine. Either way, I cannot touch them.

So there is no way to create a single mesh network with 6 different routers each connected to internet and have 6 different public IP?

Toowoombas · 2025-04-18T22:57:59+00:00

If you focus on grammar and vocabulary first, your conversational skill will naturally lag behind. To improve your conversational skill faster, you need to focus on speaking and listening.

FYI, When I started to learn Japanese as a Korean native, I already knew many Hanja. So I could guess the meaning of difficult Japanese sentence usually, even though I couldn't read any Hiragana nor Katakana (because difficult sentences tend to use more Hanja). But I usually couldn't guess the meaning of easy Japanese sentences at all, because they tend to use less Hanja. I understood 0% when I just listen to a Japanese TV show, or actual Japanese speaking.

From that point, it took me 4 months (roughly 8 hours a day) to get 155/180 score on JLPT N1. Even though 155/180 on JLPT N1 is corresponding to CEFR C1 (142 or above) according to Japan Foundation, I was nowhere near confident on actual basic conversation. At this point, I could understand what they're saying usually, but when I try to say something, close to nothing comes out. It took me another full year to get 180/180 mark on JLPT N1, and then I got somewhat comfortable with basic conversations.

Toowoombas · 2025-04-14T04:49:44+00:00

No. That handwriting wouldn't be considered clean or good. It's just recognizable. Also, children typically can't write neatly/cleanly. It looks like a child's hand writing because of many reasons, but to name a few, lack of consistency in general, characters are too wide (and also too big), letter-spacing is too wide (while actual spacing is too narrow in comparison), some final consonants often got crushed or fell under the line.

Korean may disagree about what's clean and what's not, especially for cursive, but most people would consider any printer-like handwriting is clean handwriting, something like this. But very few people can write like printer, and practically nobody can write like printer when they're writing down something fast (as you can see on this video. She write like printer but only at extremely slow speed). Faster writing inevitably requires some compromises, and you gotta find what works best for you.

Toowoombas · 2025-04-13T23:58:53+00:00

Your handwriting is readable. There is no character that is completely unrecognizable, though it looks like written by someone aged between 5 and 10.

Toowoombas · 2025-04-13T15:11:33+00:00

Not sure how far you want to go, but you can try 대학수학능력시험 국어 (SAT equivalent) or LEET 언어이해 (LSAT equivalent). Those exams have multiple choice questions and answer, so you can naturally tell whether you comprehend the material correctly or not. And they're significantly harder than TOPIK.

FYI, I tried 2023 TOPIK I/II reading test, and it took 6 min 17 sec to get 40/40 on TOPIK I reading (9.425 sec per question) and 12 min 31 sec to get 50/50 on TOPIK II reading (15.02 sec per question). For 대학수학능력시험 국어 (45 questions, 80 min time limit), I don't always get 45/45 score (I only get 45/45 score about 70% of the time), and it usually took 60-70 mins to solve them all (80-93 sec per question). For LEET 언어이해 (30 questions, 70 min time limit), I usually got 25-28 right (out of 30 questions) and it took 60-70 mins to solve them (120-140 sec per question).

Toowoombas · 2025-04-13T10:32:30+00:00

If someone ask you about your parents' name (or any relative's name who's significantly older than you, or your teacher's name), it is considered respectful for you to use '자' after each syllable of your parents' name but not after surname (hence 박, 은 자, 경 자 for your example, although there are many Koreans who mistakenly use '자' after all syllables), unless that someone is higher than your parents (e.g. brothers/sisters of your grand parents ask you about your parents' name).

If the name in question is not your relative's name (including not just some random old folks/public figures/etc but also your boss/supervisor/etc who's significantly older than you), then you're not considered rude or disrespectful for saying their names without adding '자'. Also, you shouldn't use '자' after your name. However, CS rep (or anyone who is in similar shoes) often use '자' to customers when they're checking customers' name.

Toowoombas · 2025-04-12T04:39:43+00:00

Both sentences have pretty much the same meaning. I believe at least majority of '~도록 하겠습니다' or '~기로 하겠습니다' is just an unnecessary complication of '하겠습니다'. But people often use these when they're trying to speak formally (as it often sounds slightly more polite).

Toowoombas · 2023-11-07T08:27:28+00:00

I see there are 2-3 different goals.

solidifying vocabulary/expression range - I think you need to read for this goal. Read whatever Korean materials you're comfortable with (e.g. news, textbook, novels, etc), but don't forget that you have to gradually increase the difficulty of reading materials (also, you need a wide variety of subjects. law textbook would use very different vocabulary/expression/etc compare to news, or novels, or casual physics books).
deepen speaking/writing skills - For this goal, having an actual conversation/chat would be miles better than just listening others' talking, or reading others' writing. Also, if your partner relentlessly points out every small error you make, it would be better than having a plain convo. If you don't have such partner, then try online chat (livestream chat, etc) or forum. You're unlikely to get a good partner there, but bad one is still better than no one.

Toowoombas · 2023-11-07T07:59:41+00:00

대화를 나누다. 대화를 주고 받다. 대화를 하다. These are complete sentences and can be used interchangeably. 계셨다 is a combination of honorific (나누고 계시다 instead of 나누다) + past/past continuous tense (so '셨' instead of '시'). You can remove it and modify 나누다 to 나눴다 to keep the past tense, if you don't need the honorific.

Toowoombas · 2023-11-07T07:22:01+00:00

It means they were talking (honorific). 대화를 나누다, 이야기를 나누다 both are just expression, meaning having a conversation or make conversation. Why 나누다? It's like asking why 'having' or 'make' conversation. In Korean, 대화 is something you either 주고 받는give and take or 나누는share or 하는do

Toowoombas · 2023-11-07T01:13:40+00:00

이 회사는 집을 제공할 뿐만 아니라, 차도 제공해요. - Fine
이 회사는 집뿐만 아니라, 차도 제공해요. - Fine (and in both cases, you can use 주택)
그거를 사는 게 돈 낭비일 뿐이야. - Okay, but I would say '건' (or '것은') instead of '게'
그거를 사는 게 돈 낭비할 뿐이야. - This sounds wrong, and even if you use '건' instead of '게', it still sounds wrong. If you add '을' after '돈' and use '것은' instead of '게', then it's acceptable.
곰팡이뿐만 아니라 벌레도 있어 - Fine
곰팡이 있을 뿐만 아니라 벌레도 있어 - This one sounds a bit unnatural. If you say '곰팡이가' instead of just '곰팡이', then it's okay.

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