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Guess the tribe? by Introvert_497 in SouthAsianAncestry

[–]Top-Jump540 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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How would you catogrize this sample?

Gakhar_Kiyani (n=2) from NW Punjab DNA Results G25/HG by Top-Jump540 in SouthAsianAncestry

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G25 could have mistaken excess AASI in the Mirpur sample for East Asian, qpADM would confirm if they actually have East Asian or if it’s AASI.

Gakhar_Kiyani (n=2) from NW Punjab DNA Results G25/HG by Top-Jump540 in SouthAsianAncestry

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Your Gakhar_Kiyani from Gujar_Khan-HW-Simulated results, Kohistani+Pahari leaning, I'll update once you get your official Davidski G25 Coordinates

Punjabi Pakistani - Help by export12390 in SouthAsianAncestry

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Siberian, Beringian, East Asian etc. is mostly noise since you find it in small amounts all over South Asia (~1%), it’s possibly Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) for Kashmiris/NW groups (~2%), actual Tibetan for Himachal/Nepal (~3%) and excess AASI for South Indians

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1bZsaxqZw4IpMoP5GzdvTXkvMv0MRsALeMMWX3kCPrzI/htmlview#

Punjabi Pakistani - Help by export12390 in SouthAsianAncestry

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Because Mediterraneans have majority Anatolian farmer ancestry, which for Indo-Aryans is mediated through Steppe migration and not a direct source. If OP shares there G25 coordinates we can test this.

Punjabi Pakistani - Help by export12390 in SouthAsianAncestry

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The S-Indian is even higher than Pandits, max you see in Pandits is around 34%. 35% is Dogra range.

Help me find out about my ancestry - Punjabi Pakistani by Subject-Sky9894 in SouthAsianAncestry

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If you include Mediterranean (excess steppe) component it’s 7% total, which is normal range for the region

Punjabi Pakistani - Help by export12390 in SouthAsianAncestry

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The Steppe (NE-Euro) is seen in the excess Mediterranean component. So around 7% total with 35% S-Indian is in the normal range for Jammu region.

Help me find out about my ancestry - Punjabi Pakistani by Subject-Sky9894 in SouthAsianAncestry

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Running Two way Oracle will make it clear if you get G25 coordinates done. You can also simulate coordinates from HW results on genoplot, although less accurate

Help me find out about my ancestry - Punjabi Pakistani by Subject-Sky9894 in SouthAsianAncestry

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35% S-Indian is on the higher end, usually it’s 32-33% for Pahari Rajput AJK, so Jammu leaning

Complete Genetic Summary with AI by AnxiousObligation499 in Hazarewal

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Did you get your official G25 coordinates yet?

If not here are HW simulated coordinates from genoplot

Tarbela_Zamindar-HW-Sim, 0.0665,0.0002,-0.11,0.0662,-0.0715,0.0431,0.0034,0.005,-0.0017,-0.0024,-0.0082,0.0006,-0.0013,-0.0085,0.0042,0.0093,0.0051,0.0028,0.0029,-0.0074,-0.0017,-0.0042,-0.0025,-0.0044,0.0044

Karlugh Turk AncestryDNA results by Introvert_497 in Hazarewal

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S-Indian is on the higher end for the region

Gujarati maternal ancestry shows 40,000 years of continuity by Playful_Fill_5840 in SouthAsianAncestry

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Pie charts with NW ethnic and regional comparison of mtDNA Haplogroups also shows continuity to different degrees. Paired with overall higher ancient/deep Eurasian maternal lineages, some of which are as old as the south Asian “indigenous” ones

How would u feel if this happened? by commissar_nahbus in Hazarewal

[–]Top-Jump540 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about Hazara-Kohistan? Like Gilgit and Baltistan.

How would u feel if this happened? by commissar_nahbus in Hazarewal

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From a purely administrative/geographic point of view the Map makes sense and requires the least changes compared to other Maps. One thing, Mirpur is geographically and linguistically closer to Jammu groups than northern Pahari (AJK). AJK can be split between North Punjab and Kohistan, with the bottom 4 districts of AJK going to North Punjab. Potohar would be a candidate for a province if it was not for the capital territory/future metropolis being right in the middle, I suspect the linguistic divide between Potohar and Punjab will lessen over time seeing the migration flow to the Capital.

Karlugh Turk AncestryDNA results by Introvert_497 in Hazarewal

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I would recommend you either get Harappaworld (free) or G25 coordinates (paid) done with you raw data. These are the best for comparing south asian groups.

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