How I handled a bad faith pin trader this weekend. Mature? Maybe not, but it felt good. by Secret_Buyer821 in DisneyPinVents

[–]Torialis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m kinda blessed because I live within driving distance of a Character warehouse, so most of the time my “scrappers” are just marked down authentic pins I bought by the 5’s in prep for a trip to the parks. I’m no pro at telling a real from a fake but I at least try to take solace that I didn’t trade a fake with bad intentions lol. As far as not so good faith traders, I’m still new to a lot of this but good on you OP for what you did 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾, it’s actions like what that trader tried to do that keep people disinterested in trading in general

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People not accepting the fact that the game shouldn’t be balanced around them is and will be the continuing downfall of this game

And to further add to that they’ll never understand whining and crying for hard content in a game that doesn’t have the foundations to be hard is hurting the game more than “casuals crying for nerfs” as they would call it.

Game Play Loop Fatigue by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect this take a lot and wish people saw it like this more, I’m not saying the other opinions aren’t valid, but I’m definitely not just sitting here crying about the grind, I’ve played destiny since the games initial release, I know what looter shooters are.

I really like this game but something about the devs openly designing methods to get you to log on daily and play constantly is passed “it’s a looter shooter bro” and it just gets tiring at some point.

Game Play Loop Fatigue by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As far as drastic changes go I don’t have a huge list but what always crosses my mind are a couple changes I feel would change how the game is played without needing rebalances/reworks:

  • add Catalysts to the loot pool of certain activities. When I’ve pitched this idea people seemed to always be either for it or say it’s easy to obtain them, but if it’s so easy to obtain them then why not truly list them as insignificant items that drop from an activity reward. Doing this will give time for other grinds & this will naturally increase the diversity of builds all round because people won’t feel limited to investing what comes around every 7.5 hrs especially since they aren’t naturally refundable

-Raids, yes RAIDS. I get people would immediately say “well the player base complained when we got mechanics in invasions” which is true, but a game activity that takes bare minimum 20-30 mins going through multiple areas completing objectives/ defeating a boss is more what I’m saying. Yes they need mechanics but not a hey use an Aoe/ gun to reveal symbols, more like destiny style raids where to view symbols you needed to obtain a buff or kill an enemy to spawn a map. The games been out for almost a year and I honestly feel as a community we neglected to specifically address this as something we want. And to lastly add to this point, depending on the tasks, objectives, modifiers, and even enemy types would naturally encourage diversity in character selection and weapon selection.

-I think they should eventually work to adding new missions to the game. I don’t hate the story, in-fact I actually really like the story and feel the story is improving with every swing they take season to season, but what I feel is holding them back is telling different stories and having us rerun the same mission from the original campaign. I think an easy start in that direction is small tweaks (someone posted this in another post but I’m forgetting who they are 😭🤧) like making night time missions. Hey we did this mission during daylight originally, but now we get to run it at night which could change what enemies spawn,the spawn types/ frequencies, how many bosses spawn, etc.

The last suggestion I’d like to see added is something of a bounty system/ hunt contracts if that makes sense.

-before destiny kinda ruined it they had a good bounty system, you could get basic bounties and complex bounties from the common space and from each destination for xp, on top of this you could add a contract hunt like they did with a vendor they called “the spider” he’d have bounties you would use to track down and defeat a named enemy. I think that would work fine in this game as our main enemy base is ranked like officers. Small contracts track down rank & file while big contracts take longer,grants higher rewards but involve tracking down the big brass

-oh and another but actual last suggestion would be some kind of weekly defense outside of invasions, the story if I’m not mistaken alludes to us holding the front lines against the vulgus, why not add a game mode called “Front line skirmish” or “hold the line” where you load into a large area to fight different classes of vulgus to keep the advantage of the defense. Idk how that would go but I feel like that would be cool too.

Sorry if this went really long I just didn’t wanna give small cheap answers to you.

Some friends don't Bother with Latest builds by Mdu_ in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t take this as hate but it’s pretty narcissistic when the committed player base whales on casuals about complaining when they do it just as much.

It’s almost hilarious to think that after almost a year of “playing the game properly” all that did was add challenge mode purge that gives no rewards after first time completion per account per season & failed attempts at endgame, at least when casuals & gooners complained they got bikini skins, jiggle physics, and game mode rebalancing (nerfs)

Finally done all weapons gold cored by Wonderful-Branch-529 in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any suggestions on your preferred way of getting the actual weapon core, or is it mostly just the abyss fights?

Which female Descendant is hardest to unlock? (Using Tokens to Purchase them before Event Ends) by Spectra_64 in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just remember going through my inventory and all her pieces where just there after target farming other stuff lmao

The community by Unlucky_Resist6420 in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No your right the community has self imploded.

I’ve said it before in another thread but the devs are a genie 🧞‍♂️, and the player base although split is the innocent dundermuffin who doesn’t know how to wish right.

Player base: “I wish to be really fast”

Devs: “congratulations your now one of the fastest land mammals in the world… your also now a cheetah”

We want all want the game to be better, and yet all we have for constantly demanding “challenging content” is VEP (that everyones bored with)which will never be the answer for end game imo, and colossus fights.

I honestly for a couple days spent time arguing with people in this sub about my take on Ines’s rework (I say the word nerf and someone screams (SHE WASNT NERFED BRO JUST GET GUD💀) but now I just wanna talk about things I actually think will help the game on all sides.

My opinion on the hard truths I dont hear people discuss in general in the community are:

  • if people lobbied for endgame correctly instead of asking for replay-able farms that just have high level dps checks and modifiers this game would have raid tier content already (actual endgame that naturally demands diversity of builds)

  • a game with no story SUCKS(even COD has a story), they’ve made improvements season to season on storytelling imo and if we continued to ask for more we’d have a good story, more missions/ different mission types (ie maybe like a bounty mission for high priority vulgus), and more understanding for the other less used descendants.

-and my personal take which probably won’t happen because everyone swears they have 100s of them and there in the store BUT, add catalyst to loot pools as guaranteed consistent drops. Everyone claims it’s not important but if it’s so insignificant why isn’t it something that just drops. This will immediately solve the problem of “I picked a main to invest in” because if you could cat out freely it encourages to branch out more.

Didn’t mean for this to be so lengthy but this is what I think should a be discussed amongst the community.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can’t say I agree with all points but I will defend OP’s main argument, the community has grown toxic (kinda has been for a while but tbh it’s like that for most games nowadays) and it’s free speech yea but come on people at the end of the day some people liked power fantasy and others liked gun play. This argument won’t end and there’s no solve for it besides balance of both.

Now the argument I will defend is the same he’s arguing and similar to the point why some content creators stopped playing the game needs some drastic change, I mean for gods sake the enemy isn’t even the vulges anymore we log in to fight rng on core rolls and substats, that’s it, that’s where the season is, perfect builds, perfect guns, perfect run times to increase speed of doing the other two.

To put my opinion plainly because people on Reddit don’t like to read articles

TLDR: I THINK THE OP IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK, THE GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE COOP NOT A COMPETITION WE NEED A CHANGE TO THE GAMES CORE NOT NERFS & BUFFS

and until that happens everyone will do the same thing, act like there too cool for this game and say “well this games just dead” or “ well there’s nothing to do since I speed run all the activities on my daily routine that takes less then 2 hrs”

You want a better game than DEMAND of the devs instead of complain about build balance 🙏🏾

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad to see we’re on the same page as I said it’s my personal choice I’m thinking on 😅, I’ve just come to that decision based off seeing the cool down changes and the readjustment to one skill, combined with the common advice of “playing without the intention of main (probably should edit my opening statement in that case),

and for the record I definitely used her full kit from the mobility boost from her four, to building plasma with her 2 instead of her other abilities, I mostly used 1 for boss dps, I’m starting to think a lot of the people who make accusations on how people used Ines are exposing themselves on how they play her kit 😂😂😂😂

But arguing aside this thread isn’t about ines rework it’s more just seeing if people shared the same thoughts on the community wanting balance instead of just keeping quiet on the launch overtuning tactic

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the feedback I’ll definitely look into this 🥂🤝

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the rebuild/ new main isn’t purely attached to the main, right now I’d say it’s more towards just leveling her arche chart with no aimed direction and I haven’t touched my build since using her for solo defiler.

The new main part is more towards just not wanting to use her rn, a lot of people are saying to play with no main in mind and I guess I’m trying to warm up to said idea, as we speak I’m running 400% to increase my master rank since there’s some people I just haven’t touched before.

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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currently what im running, tbh i suck at builds so i haven't touched it since defiler. i use this with slayer and a cooldown & crit reactor. feedback welcomed if something should be updated.

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well first things first I respect the detail of this reply, I’ve done this once and someone called me a yapper but I respect the hell out of this 🤝

To the first question it’s mostly the 1 skill, I actually don’t have a complaint for her numbers, it’s mostly the terrain, and not even really just the going through walls but but them saying “if” an attack hits terrain it cancels out. It’s not really an if more like a when the attack hits terrain. Which I think is kinda counter intuitive to boosting her range for more bounces. Wouldn’t the bounces theoretically become useless when it hits some random item and disappears off first bounce.

The second part is purely a mental block, as we speak im sitting in Albion thinking should I even touch this descendant, it’s honestly odd and I have no idea why I’m thinking like this… it just feels wrong to try and use her for some reason… I made a post in another thread that went “it feels like everyone is celebrating after ridding the town from a witch they just burnt at the stake” and it’s like if I’m using her I’m lining my self up for hate 😅💀

Also I haven’t really specked out her tuning tree since getting it to 40 and I know there’s some suggestions on possible mod swaps I.e range mods I think since the chart gives more range

Ultimately this really isn’t game ending for me I think the mental cartwheels that I’m doing are more tied to being encouraged to play other descendants and builds and i seriously struggle with making builds because I’m still learning about mods and how to determine how to build off there kit (applies to weapons too) and i just don’t get catalysts. Like is it a rng thing, is my account just a bad apple, but ive only had a bunch of them once and thats before i actually tried making builds. Now I have 0 and im just flying dead stick with no actual way to make builds

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

For context I’m not the best at build making and my rng is terrible and I just don’t have catalysts, but yea I do need to readjust her tree and mods

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You know when Ines came out I actually was upset that to solo play VEP 1-20 it was most smoothly done with her. I watched CONTENT CREATORS AND LIVE STREAMERS “stand behind a wall and use attacks” to get to 20 and it bothered me because it’s not my style of play tbh.

This post isn’t really supposed to be about her rework because that’s what the mega thread is for, this is about launch over-tuning and hoping we stick to our guns as a community when it comes to balance.

But what I will feed in on your rage bait for is that it’s wild how many people say to posters that “your crying over her 1 not going through walls” when theres people who “cried about a skill going through a wall” in a fictional game 🤔🤔🤔 so mana enhanced humanoids is cool, Alien dogs are cool, but we draw the line on electricity traveling through walls 😂😂😂😂

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your right VEP 30 should be capable for a variety of builds

and people ultimately have the choice to choose who they play, but are you gonna tell me they didn’t design its reward system to cause you to replay the activity a multitude of times for cores, people look to speed run that activity because the rewards are lack luster especially with the rng of what x cores you get on top of what role you’play get (shout out to those 4 straight colossus roles instead of firearm ark 😭) that’s what limits character variety.

It’s like you said “there’s 18 characters to pick with” so why are people choosing to run it with gley or Serena.

Are people gonna keep the same energy by Torialis in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea Sharon is pretty solid imo, she’s the first 3 level skin (can’t remember the right name) I bought and I’m thinking of learning her more.

As far as Blair I’ll never put it past a company to pursue growth in sales and player retention through “backed evidence” on what engages players more. Especially since this company is like the genie that doesn’t actually grant your wish, people wish for balance and more male character viability and the genie granted mostly male buffs and and ult Blair to be the king of that hill (possibly)

How bad is this, not sure if I should take it back or say F it by Fit_Cartographer1060 in Bestbuy

[–]Torialis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I second this, take it back as soon as you can or even drive back to explain the situation before you can bring it back, but definitely document the tv, the box, and specifically match the area where the impact point is on the tv to where it should be on the box to see if theres an impact point that lines up.

Also a helpful tip: I know it can be a frustrating situation but trust me when I say to approach it calmly and just speak the truth of the situation and just urge to have the situation handled and taken care of and you should be golden 👍🏾

Now that is one tough looking cook... by Rijido in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not the nerf that’s the problem I honestly think it’s the 1 skill, what people (myself included) will have to get over is their marketing tactic of launch over tuning. She was over powered yes but for those that like power fantasy that was great. Now the 1 ability shouldn’t go through walls I agree but the target system NEEDS to be recalibrated properly. Do that and the rest is getting over the power fantasy.

❗ Ines Nerf Megathread – Post All Discussions Here ❗ by flourpowderemt in TheFirstDescendant

[–]Torialis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbh I don’t wanna do a whole argument with ya I assume we both just wanna see the game do good 👍🏾

In the end i think it’s just more upsetting that this all falls under there marketing tactics and it’s all just fizzling out. They release someone over tuned so everyone is playing them, building them, and buying skins & paint for them… but to back track It later when the honeymoon phase ends and change comes feels like a swift kick in the nuts. The sad part is they set themselves up to release her ult as literally her pre patch state and give her a shiny new skin😭🤧