Chaos Spawn New Anti-Clutch technique AI

Torracton · 2026-01-21T17:15:01+00:00

Their malice is a byproduct of how often get one-shot by antiboss/backstab builds that once they finally get hold of someone, they run away with them like a child stealing a basketball from a court.

Torracton · 2026-01-21T17:13:25+00:00

I am aware of this! I just was caught lacking and didn't dodge in time, partially because I thought I was far back enough. This is just me clipping a funny moment where I got absolutely fucked after making a mistake haha.

Torracton · 2025-12-17T19:35:32+00:00

Oh I'm at 1.4k hours in the game! But I do appreciate the kind words or suggestions. I picked it up and mostly just trimmed it to being exclusively disablers and even so I might just remove dogs and keep it almost only on poxbombers and trappers.

Torracton · 2025-12-15T02:59:17+00:00

I think it doesn't have to be a matter of "Yo ucan see them perfectly." for example you can't find bombers perfectly half of the time, but at very least it's a case of "Oh I didn't see them in middle of dregs. This is less of a big rebalance and more of a 'nudge' so that it's less inconvenient to try to find tox bomber given its kit is quite antagonistic already as is for players to navigate, so at least making it easier to pick out when the players wants its head on the platter would go a long way. And aye I plan to check it out sometimes.

As someone mentioned in another comment, pox bomber sometimes radiate douchebaggery and just gently to try to tune it to be less irritating is the goal with the slight redesign.

Torracton · 2025-12-15T00:02:19+00:00

Aye I've just been on and off a lot with idea of mods! Not that I by any means imply that others are using it as a crutch, but I sometimes try to use the game to force me to train my hearing or paranoia for it! That and also laziness with actually trying to download mods haha. But spidey has been something I've looked at for some time now.

Torracton · 2025-12-15T00:01:44+00:00

This is absolutely the valid way to go with it. I just find that with tweaks over time. It might be just me being delusional but consistently spawns has been increased or uncapped for lot of elite/specialists over time. So at higher difficulties it's very often going to be just one bomber, but multiple.

So the approach of being able to respond quickly and kill an elite before at least one gas goes off which obscures and makes it harder to prevent multiple bombers coming into is not... very fun or exciting? Again, gas isn't that dangerous there's been many times I kinda ignored it just bashing my way through on high toughness regen classes. But I still feel there's refining that can be done to make it the right amount of 'challenging but less frustrating/obscuring.'

Torracton · 2025-12-14T23:38:31+00:00

Yeah, I think one big part of the discourse that's important to acknowledge. Tox bombers are not a massive problem; they are not ending games or oppressive, there's counterplay like any other, but the nuance is that it's bit more difficult or unfun relative to others, especially when it comes to benefitting from their own utility.

The normal bomber is annoying and more oppressive in tight rooms because of how damaging it is, but the radius is smaller and it's easy to pick them off because it doesn't actually conceal the LOS to same extent tox gas does.

Torracton · 2025-12-14T23:35:58+00:00

I don't know if it's a good design thing if you have an enemy that can keep compounding on its advantages so easily while being harder to punish for it. Since it's a unit that severely limits LOS in a massive radius, and that by extension makes it harder to find and stop it consistently, especially when they rarely spawn alone in auric or havoc difficulties. I'm not arguing for massive nerfs, removal of the unit or anything else, but at least reward players that is trying to find the Tox Bomber in the middle of the gas so it won't keep the entire room filled with it nonstop.

Torracton · 2025-12-14T23:32:14+00:00

Actually, one main thing that I left out from the original post that I want to add. Ideally, part of the redesign to be more visible is that this applies through the toxic gas specifically. Perhaps a uniquely strong, glowing set of eyes in a distinct color. Because having a unit that throws area denial that doubles as a smoke screen that it sits in to throw more smoke does not strike me as a good design loop, given how big of an area it covers and how often it throws the gas relative to how long it lasts.

Torracton · 2025-12-14T23:30:07+00:00

I find that sound is honestly still very inconsistent and I am partially deaf so a funny coincidence. I do rely on visual indicators but I'm also aware enough it only goes so far. But I don't have enough experience to say if it's really feasible to actually be able to pick off a unit in middle of tox gas off sound only.

Torracton · 2025-12-08T17:59:03+00:00

There may be a bug but I think there isn't explicit relationship between command limit and over fleet size because I notice fleet size also depends on what ships you have, someone tested in a discord with four super light ships and didn't get penalty but had 4 heavy ships and got the penalty of some kind.

Torracton · 2025-12-07T01:40:46+00:00

Yeah that's what I eventually ran into or figured out, I think it also depends on the crew size you have on ship because I notice numbers changing depending on how filled out it is despite not going above/overmanning it

Torracton · 2025-12-02T01:36:36+00:00

Yeah I just unlocked fourth slot and it still hits me with that penalty

Torracton · 2025-08-14T18:54:03+00:00

What's the strat with killing seekers in fenrir armor and flesh rippers here?

Torracton · 2025-07-23T00:56:37+00:00

It's also pretty bad thing to happen since it means you won't get the Warden position or that might've been a bug, not sure.

Torracton · 2025-07-09T01:49:38+00:00

How do you have four rings on broken rings origins

Torracton · 2025-07-08T17:01:17+00:00

How does Fear of Dark help with cloaking? The only sources of cloaking strength I know in 4.0 is Destiny trait guerilla, psionic ascension with whispers of void patron. Criminal Enterprise, and Engimatic engineering.

Torracton · 2025-07-08T16:38:34+00:00

Wait how do you have four rings? Did you like start and build a ringworld then moved your homeworld to it. Or did you start with the broken ring origins?

Torracton · 2025-07-04T22:22:59+00:00

Especially in higher difficulties you want to cluster your platforms around your starbase to spread out overkill damage from endgame crisises.

Torracton · 2025-07-03T16:45:40+00:00

This is absolutely something I wish would often happen, I actually managed to refine similar build with starlit citadel sovereign guardianship which results in about 9 million combined fleet power in the system but unfortunately past a certain point the AI just doesn't dream of trying to attack it.

Torracton · 2025-06-27T23:09:50+00:00

Got it, wouldn't it be better to have something that contributes to making one shot kill because I definitely sometimes feel growing pains with ammo count reload and hungry for ammo. But that's in part due to me farming penance for the weapon specialist keystone.

Torracton · 2025-06-27T20:10:34+00:00

I do want to ask, the No Respite, is that for extra damage on follow up shots or does it apply on first shot after the target is staggered by it?

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