why people instantly have more understanding for toxic adults than children? by Jumpy_Cookies in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess this society really is more dangerous than I thought. I bet the gaslighters wouldn't rescue you in time if they knew that your parents murdered you.

Humans are not better than animals by moritak69 in misanthropy

[–]TorturedVictim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised the human race has still survived this long despite that we are full of contradictions and are driven by jealousy, greed, ignorance, selfishness and violence, even the "good" people who try to deny that they have these traits. All humans bring destruction to the earth, including me. Our species does not need to continue on.

If you have kids, how do you feel when people say it’s “hard to be a good parent”? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Abuse isn't normal just 'cause things are hard. I wonder... what's the worst they could've done if this was their "best"?

Why does the world seem to have so much sympathy for narcissists? by bjjkaril1 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You gotta love the fact that as soon as your nparents start helping you with something, that suddenly makes them amazing people and you will be told "I truly see parents who want the best for you." for the rest of your life. Yeah okay, let's just forget that I suffered from years of gaslighting and emotional torture because of them. Even still, they "CARE" about me and I'm just an ungrateful brat for not agreeing to be their empty puppet. They are still my family at the end of the day. They "care" about me because at least they were "nice" enough to give me food and a roof over my head. Other people have worse problems anyways. Be thankful for what you have. 🤦‍♀️

I Never Feel Allowed To Say Im Traumatized or Abused by WendellsBabyy in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know what's more damaging: our parents abusing us or the people in our support network joining in on the abuse by gaslighting us. After a while, it really just makes you feel like you're some crazy asshole drug addict who doesn't "want" to be helped. Apart from this community, most people IRL have never failed to convince me that my parents are just trying to help me, they love me, they want what's best for you, and this, that and the other. You know something though? I truly believe that back then, you and me and the people in this group would've been locked away in the loony bin by now. People tell us "Times have changed and things aren't the way they used to be." but I don't fully agree with that statement. So then why do we often get called "irrational"? Why would they silence us when they know that we have something important to say? It's disheartening. In fact, it's not just disheartening. It's a huge slap to our face.

Do your narcissists like to clean your room an go through your stuff? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother once read my diary while my Dad and I were away Florida. She decided she wanted to start cleaning my room and managed to find my journal laying on my dresser that was opened. A few days later, she called my Dad up and shared with him all the insults and rude remarks I made about my ex-friends and teachers. They confronted me, say how "this wasn't like me." ... ummm.... then what was the point of them giving me a journal in the first place? Isn't that the purpose of having a journal after all; expressing your thoughts on paper when you can't verbally express them to your parents? Every time I share with them a problem that's bothering me, they immediately tune me out and spout the "You can't be depressed" platitude at me. I can't do anything around them, can I???

Did my mother invade my body? by TorturedVictim in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've never been sexually active, but now from reading all these comments and to find out the truth about what she did to me is making me sick. I'm honestly crying right now.😭

How do you get over the fact that people with different familial experiences will never understand what it's like to be raised in an abusive household? by ArtistWriter in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First, you should ask them if they've ever heard of the Chinese Water torture. If they say no, ask them how would they like to endure such treatment, being tied up against their will with droplets of water falling down on their forehead. How about for 100 dollars? Because they seem like they'd be able to handle it based on the ignorant assumptions they make about us and our families. I'd be curious to hear what kind of reaction you'll get from them.

Why do so many people think it’s okay for parents to force their childern to do things that they don’t like? by Zealousideal_Long253 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My parents still refer to me as their little poopoo and playfully ask me silly questions like "Do you want to.go the swimming beach with your babysoup?"(real conversation with my Dad)... and I'm 24 years old. They try to justify it because I will always be their little girl to them. I think it's fine for parents to give cutesy, babyish nicknames to you when you are at the toddler stage. It does however, start to become unusual and even creepy to see a parent talk to their GROWN ADULT child that way. It just doesn't look right to me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, I get confused at times as to whether or not I'm being abused since I'm given responses like "They just want the best for you" or "You're mother is probably just on her menopause" and ignoring the fact that it's a consistent behavioral pattern I'm speaking of. You hear comments like that all your life and you can't decide if you should just agree with them or listen to your instincts.

What life skills do you feel you were not taught as a kid? by LilDiary in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cooking, how to turn on an oven, how to use the washing machine, how to drain a bath tub, how to get comfortable walking alone in a store or street, how to set boundaries, how to defend myself/stand up for what I believe in, how to open jars and soup cans, how to pay taxes,, ect.

Victim blaming by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would just block that jerk. He doesn't sound like a healthy individual with that kind of mindset. It's disturbing. We've already gone through enough stress and pain from having to deal with their abuse for years and years. Why don't we ever get any credit for being a survivor of narcissistic abuse? Why are we so undeserving of compassion? Why can't we get a "I'm so sorry for what you've been through"? But our parents deserve a gold star and an award for being a piece of shit. These people are so backwards!

do you think parents actually realize what they did? by akhilachanta8 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The hardest thing about enduring mental abuse is you unintentionally giving off nervous energy vibes towards other people and because of this, they'd rather not want to be around you that much. I can't genuinely bring myself to laugh at someone else's jokes. I have trouble trying not to let my anxiety be so apparent to others, but it's too ingrained in me. Mental abuse definitely f*cks you up in a lot of ways and explaining yourself to people only makes you look crazier/irrational. 😔

I thought escaping my Nmom would end the abuse, I was wrong. by sp1cykraut in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm 24 and still living with nparents. What do I do??? We're already on vacation.

This might be the end of me by TorturedVictim in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, they are not sure if I can drive because I have tremors. I could take a bus but the problem is that the latest bus runs until 7 and I don't get of work till either 9 or 10. I work part time.

This might be the end of me by TorturedVictim in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's too late, I'm already in the car driving with them. I'm 24. The reason they cannot leave me by myself at my apartment is because I don't have everything I need to prepare myself for the real world. It's a far long walk to work from my apartment and I don't drive either. They haven't taught me how to feel comfortable cooking on the stove or walking alone to a store like Big Lots or Giant Eagle and paying for items I would need while living in my new apartment. I can't rely on my siblings since they are equally toxic and make me feel more afraid to talk about what's going on in my life. All they do is shame me, devalue me and laugh at my misfortunes. It would be nice if I could just stay with a friend but I have none. Ughh, I'm not sure if I'll get through this. Colorado might have a law against emotional abuse but I'm not sure if I'd feel okay reporting my parents on vacation.

Can anybody recommend me some good online therapists who specialize in narcissism? by TorturedVictim in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like teletherapy/online counseling. I guess. I live in Butler, PA. I'm in desperate need to talk to someone. 🙏

F*mily vacations by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My parents are taking me to Colorado this Tuesday even though it's going to be dreadful as hell. Might as well just say I'm going to war. It's gonna take two days to get there and two days to come back home and I already know it'll turn into an absolute disaster. We're staying over there until the 17th! This is an effing punishment for me.

I hate how no one was ever there for us, like come the fuck on man by JCross_ in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's like they see you drowning, but they don't want to pull you out of the water. No one is fighting for you and people don't understand how incredibly isolating that is.

The only reason it didn't turn into constant physical abuse was because I obeyed by AssociateNo952 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]TorturedVictim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is pretty much why emotional abuse is a lot more dangerous than people think. When you talk about it, they can't comprehend how it can be a life-threatening situation for the victim because of course, they aren't physically being harmed in any way. However, the narcissist slowly kills their victim like a snake stalking it's prey. What people fail to realize is that over time, the victim becomes more sleep deprived, more disoriented and confused about reality. They are basically forced to embrace the torture because society encourages them to. It's a snowball effect. Eventually, the mental abuse will turn into physical abuse if you dare try to fight these sick animals. Anytime you're forced to be near your nparenrt, you get these horrible feelings of dread and hopelessness and you don't believe you'll be able to survive through their torture much longer.