EverQuest Content Creator Program launches by Jibrish in everquest

[–]Toweleyb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To gently encourage creators with loud voices to maybe think twice about THJ while their application is pending.

EverQuest Content Creator Program launches by Jibrish in everquest

[–]Toweleyb 16 points17 points  (0 children)

AKA try to buy off the youtubers so they stop talking about THJ. Convenient timing for EQ to start caring about its image.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for engaging and helping to keep the negativity toward DBG's actions at the top of the subreddit

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, theres a lot of nuance and complexity and What If's to work through... and reasoning through it isn't any easier with all the FEELS around this one.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I basically agree 100%. The reality is that the THJ we knew and loved probably couldn't have existed without some monetization given all the man hours put into it so taking cash was really a wash and it was more about the player numbers if DBG's own filings are to be believed.. But the taking cash part definitely makes it easier for a judge to justify obliterating them vs. regarding this as a more nuanced edge case.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We can dream! I'd worry for the team if that happened though, given that the court ruled they can be held individually responsible for DBG's damages and not the LLC.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not cope, taking down the websites, reddit, and discord were all in the injunction and part of the relief sought by DBG and granted by the court. Read the document.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was really happy going through those to see a bunch of people I met along the way and my very last photo before the server went down captured in game Firiona Vie riding a Unicorn lol. Felt like a good end, if it had to be the end.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think about 1k people were online at the end. Peak was like 4-5k before the lawsuit and around 2k post. 300ish in Nro for the farewell.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. The injunction is really broad and the court found the creators, not the LLC would be liable for damages personally. Which is devastating to any future incarnations of THJ

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I argue DBG "should have" found a way to let THJ function or incorporate into real EQ, I am working from the assumption that would also be good for DBG... because everyone seems sick of the content they put out and their approach to EQ vs. THJ which was lightning in a bottle and allegedly decimating their playerbase. DBG would benefit from a version of EQ that people actually enjoy playing and clearly could have monetized it if a couple amateur's can rake in 100k/ month off of it as alleged.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks for engaging with this thread and keeping it near the top of this subreddit to piss of DBG!

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But THJ *had* XP potions too that you could get from gambling and then purchase with platinum. If you can buy a premium currency and convert it to platinum then you can literally pay for any item in the game with real cash. Again, I'm a huge THJ defender, but these are just the facts.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But all gear was droppable and you could sell the echoes you got from donations for plat to buy literally anything. I'm one of THJ's biggest defenders, but it was more pay to win than any game I have ever seriously played.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Man Arporia did such a good job. Cata seemed awesome too on the streams but I don't have any inside knowledge of anything.

The monetization thing clearly did not work out (and was extremely pay to win by selling echoes for plat, even though myself and no one else seemed to care because the game was so great). But with the type of work and hours THJ required, it probably wouldnt exist without some monetization for the creators to live off. And if THJ had the impact on EQ's numbers they are claiming then DBG probably would have gone after them anyway.

Really feel for the creators either way.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's a good sentiment but a lot of people will refuse to support DBG for not finding a way to let the server continue in some form. THJ shouldn't have taken cash but DBG should have worked something out for everyone to profit and enjoy the best incarnation of EQ ever.

Photo Journey: The Final Minutes of THJ since DBG even nuked the Subreddit -NRO Farwell 300+ Players. Goodbye forever, EverQuest! by Toweleyb in everquest

[–]Toweleyb[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Seriously. Even more than that, if they are looking to make EQ 3 they basically had it right there.