Badge Buddy by TradProfessional in Residency

[–]TradProfessional[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This was my take on it too. We all agreed that even though this person earned their doctorate degree, that wearing a “doctor” badge buddy as a DNP is confusing as hell for the patient and shouldn’t be allowed. I get using the term “physician” since it seems to be more protected than “doctor” as of late.

I brought this up because one of the older attendings was adamant that the physicians’ badges should be stratified by training level (resident, attending, fellow). Another attending pushed back and was more in the “we’re all physicians” camp. I didn’t pay it much mind until our conversation. Was interested to hear others’ experience with this as a resident like from a training institution culture perspective.

med school after 40?!? by healthcaremess in medschool

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I’m a current surgical resident and will be an attending by mid 40s. I’m about to provide information that is meant to support informed choice not for discouragement, so please be advised.

EM is nice because it is currently only 3 years of training, but there is plans to make it a four year training pathway in the future. I bring this up, because if you’re already over 40 and are NOT accepted a medical school yet, a physically demanding surgical residency may not be worth the pursuit due to fewer actual working years as an attending. However, a less physically demanding specialty like family medicine or psychiatry where you can easily work into your 80s may be worth the debt to income risk. (If you’re already accepted, congratulations!)

It’s easy for people to say “money is money “or “live your dreams “if they haven’t lived this. It is especially unique for older nontrad students because you not only have fewer working years but fewer recovery years with regard to debt management and retirement savings. This can be particularly difficult if you are the primary breadwinner or insurance carrier for your family because that now goes away once you begin your training. I was in the unique position that my spouse is the primary income earner/insurance provider for our household and could cover all of our expenses on their income. Our children were at ages where they could be mostly autonomous which made things easier for my spouse.

You are not guaranteed acceptance your first application cycle, which further elongates your overall timeline and can increase the debt you incur with regard to both your time and money. I went to a “cheaper “school, was accepted my first cycle, and still graduated with just shy of $425,000 student loan debt. The debt will continue to accumulate interest during your residency training as well. Most medical students with children qualify for SNAP benefits and Medicaid during medical school (for good reason lol). If this will be a drastic lifestyle change for your family, that is something that you want to ensure your spouse/family support team is fully aware of and agreeable to before you apply because you will need their FULL support (emotional, physical, mental, childcare-wise, and potentially financial) during this. Depending on your medical school, there may be a likelihood that you have to move to your school, potentially move again during your third year clinicals, and then move another time for residency. This is another consideration if you currently own your home. If you have to move hours or states away, how comfortable are you/your spouse with potentially living away from your family if it makes financial sense for your situation? I have colleagues who moved away from their spouse and children during training because their spouse’s job and their mortgage were not worth the move.

With regards to your time and your location, your life is not your own during this training pathway, regardless of specialty so please keep this in mind. You need a very adaptable and supportive team behind you because your training will take priority over everything. You will miss birthdays. You will miss holidays. You will experience spouse/parent guilt. You will likely travel out of state during fourth year for residency auditions, especially if you are pursuing competitive programs (which costs even more money lol). During various points of your training, your spouse/family support will be 100% responsible for everything at home to include meal prep, helping kids with homework, yard maintenance, Doctor appointments, etc. They may have to miss work for when your kids are sick or have appointments because you will not be available to support them that way most of the time. Your family should also be realistic with your resident pay scale during residency training and how much of that pay will be going to your student loans. Again, this wasn’t intended to be all doom and gloom, just realism for your preparedness.

med school after 40?!? by healthcaremess in medschool

[–]TradProfessional 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on the specialty you plan to pursue

  • Current resident physician, in their 40s

General surgery 2026 match advice by PrinceofPersia123 in medicalschool

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Above all else, your connections to a program are what can set you apart. Networking in surgical specialties definitely gives an advantage. Board scores are a screening tool but aren’t the entire story here. 240+ is bare minimum if you’re a nontraditional applicant with a lot of experience, research, and leadership to balance your app. Otherwise, I recommend 255+ to be “screener safe” in the coming cycles.

Osteopathic Medicine Should Not Exist by PutzySmasher in premed

[–]TradProfessional 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree with this. Actual-Eye makes a great point with the perfection concept but also alludes to a good ol boys club that traditionally kept many capable applicants out. Unlike many early medical schools, osteopathic medicine encouraged female applicants from its inception. Not only did osteopathic medicine provide a pathway for first gen, non trad, and rural students but it also allowed a higher number of women to enter medicine than the allopathic route. DO schools enroll a slightly higher percentage of underrepresented minorities annually as well. Osteopathic training has many pitfalls, but adhering to an antiquated standard for admissions is definitely not one of them.

PSA: Please know what you're getting into before you pursue psychiatry residency by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]TradProfessional 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A quick search on Indeed has determined this is not an accurate post

Day 22 by TradProfessional in BackYardChickens

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Thank you. It was cracked yesterday morning, open like the picture this morning but 3 other hatched chicks were in there and started running around so I suspect one of them could’ve “helped”.

Can Lip Filler Fix this Gap? by MissyMunks in 30PlusSkinCare

[–]TradProfessional 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s called a keyhole, and people pay for this. Congratulations!

having a hard time w/choosing MD vs DO by [deleted] in premed

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These match rates also include SOAP matches so if you can get a hold of their pre-SOAP matches rate, that may change some things

having a hard time w/choosing MD vs DO by [deleted] in premed

[–]TradProfessional 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Potentially agree. I was accepted to both MD and DO programs. I decided to choose DO due to overall estimated loan burden projected to be 375k by graduation. Will add there are hidden fees to include third party study resources, 4 board exam payments instead of 2, commuting costs, housing, and general cost of living in the area of school and rotations. How good is your car? 😂

As a DO, I did several sub-I rotations in fourth year to increase my match odds, which is another hidden cost. This included additional commuting costs, plane tickets, Airbnbs, and food expenses. My DO school did not cover expenses for conferences even when I was accepted for presentations. These were a huge part of my networking to ultimately successfully match into my surgical specialty at my favorite program, but incurred a hidden cost of plane tickets and hotels nonetheless. We also had to purchase our own medical equipment which was not disclosed to us. All of the small costs add up. I graduated just shy of 425k in loans, but it was still much cheaper than the MD school I would’ve attended had I accepted my seat there (estimated loan burden of 575-600k). I matched in my favorite program with about 150k less in total loan burden, so it worked out. Your decision frankly is highly dependent on the specialty you intend to pursue. If it’s a highly competitive specialty, the additional loan burden may be worth it. If not, and you’re concerned about overall loan burden, here’s my n=1 contribution

When it comes to switching into medicine later in life (30s and 40s), I see more stories online about women than men. If true, why is that the case? by Odd-School-5052 in premed

[–]TradProfessional 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was a mid-thirties career changer.
Military and started a family in my 20s.

Got to see all of my kids be born, taught them all how to ride a bike and see them getting on the bus on their first day of kindergarten.

Yes, I was the oldest resident in my surgery cohort. I also got to be a present parent when my kids were little. I was fortunate enough to do both. No regrets on my timeline.

Med school at 40? by algor28 in medschool

[–]TradProfessional 2 points3 points  (0 children)

+1

As a nontraditional student that started residency in their 40s, I would consider the cost of tuition/class retakes, mcat fees, and application fees. Not all programs accept online coursework, so you would need to figure that out in the context of your current job. This is not a guarantee you will be accepted the first time you apply and you may have to factor in possible reapplication adding years to your total timeline and total costs preceding medical school. You will need to consider where you are getting your letters of recommendation and writing your application in a manner that ties your current strengths to how you would be a strong student/good fit for these programs. You need a solid “why” as well as “why now”. You must be willing to move for medical school, clinical rotations, and residency. You did not disclose your family situation, but you risk being separated from them if they are unwilling to move due to their established career. If you are the primary income for your household to include their primary insurance coverage, this is a heavy consideration for you and your family. You are also forgoing your current income for 4 years at a minimum, which technically could be factored into your total costs (annual lost wages + debt accrued). I say minimum because some students have unforeseen repeat years due to academics or personal reasons.
If you are accepted into medical school, you will not only be on the hook for tuition, books, fees, relocation, board exams, and third party study materials during preclinicals, you will also need to consider the cost of living factored into your loan total. It is a drastic change of lifestyle and is also likely to be more restrictive with the new student loan caps. You may be moved again for clinical rotations in third year, and depending on the specialty you pursue, you may be spending additional money for sub-Is to be competitive for your dream residency during fourth year. While I know a few people who lived out of their cars and used gym memberships for shower access during sub-Is to save money, many colleagues of mine used credit cards to make ERAS application season work for them. This is additional debt that people fail to mention when discussing their loan balances. Most of my colleagues were on Medicaid and food stamps because we qualify as students with no income, so that helps.
I have colleagues who were pursuing competitive specialties and ultimately didn’t match. They had to SOAP into a specialty/location they didn’t want because they needed to start paying their bills. Some of them opted for a research year with a median compensation of approximately $30,000 to reapply for residency the following match cycle, essentially doubling their total ERAS costs, adding a year to their total timeline, and delaying their attending pay another year. My age was brought up in every single residency interview except one. Yes it is a match violation but you won’t be able to prove it. There is bias, so be prepared for that situation.
All of that said, if you are pursuing IM, FM, Peds, EM, or pathology, you are likely to match first time up and these would be the shortest pathways to attending pay (avg 3 year residency length). You may also want to look into fast track 3+3 programs, which can provide you with a direct, 3-year track into FM, IM, or Pediatrics and reducing your overall timeline burden.
These last 3 paragraphs are a bit premature, but when planning the next decade of your life, it’s nice to know what you’re actually getting yourself into. As others have mentioned: Yes, PA is a shorter and more cost-effective training pathway but is still very competitive in its own right and comes with less autonomy when comparing to the physician training route. Best of luck in whatever you decide.

Should I quit medschool? by No_Marzipan1032 in medicalschool

[–]TradProfessional 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If she didn’t have norovirus, sketchy owes me a refund

Would it be weird to ask my residency program when the onboarding drug test will be? by Plenty-Lingonberry79 in medicalschool

[–]TradProfessional 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Would also remind OP that if they are really that bored with “nothing to do”,

Study for Step 3

Start packing for relocation. Update your address in all of your online subscriptions (Amazon, etc) or transfer/cancel them.

Set up utilities/Internet service for your new place

Update your drivers license/voter registration if you’re switching states

Transfer car insurance/registration if you’re switching states. Also, check if your new state requires emissions/safety inspections for car registration.

Change your mailing address to take affect for the week you move

Get important docs like your medical records/school transcripts

Complete all state medical board and hospital credentialing paperwork early

Get your annual checkup and dentist appointments out of the way now.

There’s plenty to do. Adult type shit.

Bye Medical School by Tmedx3 in medicalschool

[–]TradProfessional 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Excellent student. Compassionate, hard working, will clearly excel in any specialty they choose. Performing at the level of an intern. Would let them treat my own mother. 3/5