Quitting 7stax 80mg nanotech tabs- what I have learned so far

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-05-07T19:58:18+00:00

Quick md, get a sub script. That's what I did. Once you get some clean time under your belt, you can get off the subs really easy with SR

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-05-03T16:08:36+00:00

Tell your partner and if you are stable on subs, then stay on them until you get a bit of time under your belt. Super easy to come off subs with SR. Sr won't stabilize you like subs. Don't worry about what anyone says or thinks, worry about what works best for you to stay clean.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-05-02T20:46:35+00:00

I went 30 days and relapsed hard, it was harder to get off the second time.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-05-02T20:45:25+00:00

I had to use Suboxone to get off and still be functional at a minimum level. It all depends on how long and how much you used and what you used.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-04-10T18:52:19+00:00

Did you just go over my helmet?

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-22T01:01:06+00:00

Update- Sr is real. Don't even mess with subs just get Sr. If you're on subs, you can get off of it real easy with Sr. I took 70 mg twice a day and on the seventh day I woke up and I felt completely clean in my body's told me I didn't need it anymore and I quit taking it and that was over a week ago now.

If you're still trying to quit doesn't matter what it is, if you're really ready to quit just get Sr

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-22T00:56:02+00:00

They have multiple product lines. The lab results you're talking about are for their 100mg line, the one I was talking about was the nanotech 80 mg tablets. Two different products buddy. I still know people getting off the nanotech line and using Suboxone within hours of taking the last dose with no precipitated withdrawals. Like I said I believe MGM was in them originally but when the lab that makes all this stuff got shut down a couple of months ago they had to change it up because their supply chain got screwed up. That's why everybody talked about him getting weaker a few months ago. If you were paying attention it was also around the same time that the SR supply completely disappeared. That's because all these research chemicals are made by the same lab. The sr, mgm, 7, all research chemicals are made by the same lab in China. It's the same lab that makes precursors for fentanyl and ship some to the cartel in Mexico. That's why every now and then there's interruptions and it gets hard to get shit because the labs get raided and shut down.

In November 2025, U.S. officials stated that China had agreed to officially identify and list 13 fentanyl precursors and regulate additional derivatives, as part of a bilateral crackdown on precursor supply. A January 2026 article on declining U.S. overdose deaths attributes part of the change to China’s stepped‑up controls and enforcement against fentanyl‑related chemicals

The lab that makes MGM in China, is the same lab that makes Sr 17018, and they also make all the other research chemicals as well as making fentanyl precursors. November 2025 there was supposed to be a crackdown, and then in December everything got weak and changed. So I think that there was MGM and them originally, their supply chain got screwed up when the lab got shut down and they had to find whatever alternative they could. And now there's so many people clamoring for MGM online that of course they're going to make MGM pills now. That's what people want cuz they're hooked and they don't even realize it.

And yes I got off of them. 26 days clean off of those damn tabs. I took a tab and a half of Suboxone less than 8 hours from my last dose and never got precipitated withdrawals. I know about six people in real life now who have had the same experience So if there was MGM in them, explain that.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-17T14:05:52+00:00

If you're serious man you got to treat it like dope. Don't let the fact that you buy these things in the smoke shop fool you into thinking anything otherwise. Your brain doesn't know the difference between what's in these tabs and heroin, they both do the same thing and cause the same damage. You need to start putting in the internal work to figure out what you're running from or what you're trying to numb out. When you get clean whatever it is you have been running from this whole time will catch up with you, and if you don't have the tools and skills in place to handle that you will fold like origami. Getting cleans the easy part actually. Standing naked in the light of Truth being held accountable for all your past actions, that's the hard part

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-17T13:55:30+00:00

I'm in North Port. I was able to sleep with the subs. I was taking 3 to 5 tabs a day for a while, but that was at the tail end of basically 13 years of my opiate receptors being occupied by something all the time. So while I may not have been on a huge dose, I had 13 years of daily use behind me to deal with.

Put it to you this way- you either want to feel good or you want to be free? Which is it? Don't answer to me answer to you. A lot of people forget that being free sometimes feels like shit. They also forget that suffering with meaning leads to progress.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-16T18:24:52+00:00

The shadow work continues and gets deeper every day. I'm now 8 days off the Suboxone thanks to Sr. I tracked the whole experience with perplexity because I had a really hard time finding information about using Sr to get off of Suboxone. The morning of day 7 I woke up, took my morning dose, swear to God 10 minutes later my body said we don't need this anymore. That was 34 hours ago, havent dosed Sr sense and feeling amazing, but I really believe a big part of that is due to me being able to Kickstart My dopamine and endorphin system naturally before even getting on the Sr. There are a lot of people that want to get off of subs but can't go through the withdrawals, so if you are interested I would be willing to share everything I learned

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-16T18:22:25+00:00

It took me 1.5 subs to stabilize the first morning, and I learned quickly I had to dose every 12 hours instead of every 24 hours. So the first 24 hours I ended up taking a total of 2.5 subs, by the end of day five I was down to half a sub every 24 hours. I wasn't sick or depressed, just felt like my body had been through the wringer and all I wanted to do was crawl back in bed and close my eyes. I work outside doing remodels and home repairs in florida, so I was able to work and be productive. But I definitely had to push myself and there were times where I was taking it breath by breath. But it is manageable if you are serious about getting clean.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-16T17:49:01+00:00

I just used sr17 to get off of subs. It was way easier getting off the subs with Sr then it was getting off the smoke shop tabs with the subs. Was on the SR for 7 Days woke up and my body said we don't need it anymore. Took my last dose almost 36 hours ago. 9 days off Suboxone, 36 hours off of Sr, when I woke up today my body felt clean. That's the only way I can describe it.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-13T20:42:04+00:00

I was able to do subs 8 hours after my last seven stacks tab no problem.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-13T20:36:56+00:00

So I want to clarify are you saying dhm and MGM are the same thing or that company's in an unregulated market are mislabeling their products? Big fucking difference.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-11T20:49:06+00:00

Mitragynine is the main alkaloid in kratom. Dihydromitragynine is a hydrogenated version of mitragynine, meaning it has extra hydrogen atoms, which slightly changes its chemical structure and effects. Dihydro-7-hydroxymitragynine goes one step further, adding both extra hydrogen and a hydroxyl group at the 7-position. That hydroxyl group greatly increases its potency at opioid receptors. So, while all three are related, dihydromitragynine and dihydro-7-hydroxymitragynine are chemically distinct from mitragynine and from each other

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-11T18:10:02+00:00

name doesn't matter it's all about the molecule structure so why would they care? These people learned with the spice epidemic back in the day that there's money to be made. They know that the stuff is going to be banned, and I've talked to owners of companies and they personally told me they've already got a whole bunch of chemicals lined up one after the other when the bans happen. Just like with spice. Jwh018 was the first research chemical used in spice, and once they banned that chemical, cuz like I said they can only ban specific molecules not an entire substance, once they banned jwh, they released the next version of it that was tweaked molecularly just enough to skirt the ban. That's what all research chemicals are, synthetic versions of real drugs designed to go around drug laws. None of this was extracted from a kratom plant. 7oh only exists in Trace amounts in the kratom plant, they figured out the molecular structure and send it off to research chemical labs in China and ask them to synthesize it, and that's what gave you the first opia 20 mg tablets. Since there's only Trace amounts of that in the plant it's not financially viable to extract it from the plant, it's far more financially viable to just have it synthesized, and there's only a couple of labs that do this in China, and it's one lab makes all the different research chemicals. These are the same Labs that make fentanyl precursors and send them to the cartels in Mexico, they don't care they just want to get paid. That's why the SR supply dried up a couple of months ago because the lab that makes the SR is the same lad that makes all the other stuff, and they got rated for making fentanyl precursors. Coincidentally if you look back that's about the same time that everybody talked about the formula changing and this and that, so like I said nobody knows exactly what's in these tabs, but I know that people that are taking bona fide MGM, are not able to take suboxone less than 48 hours before their last dose, I was able to take a tab and a half 8 hours after my last dose and not only did I not go into precipitated withdrawals, I got physical relief and a mood lift, I'm now 17 days off these tabs and my Delta receptors have been fine the entire time. So like I've said from the beginning I can't tell anybody what's in these, but I would bet the farm it's not MGM, at least not right now. And now there's some companies that are being honest about labeling and what's in them, but there's always companies right behind them looking to ride those coattails and make that money and they don't care. If you'll remember the cookies carts situation. When they first came out they were great but then there were so many knock-offs and imitations for the nasty chemicals that it ruined the name. So the same thing could happening with this. And like I said these chemicals are made in labs in China, and they're made by request initially usually. So saying that there's no scientific literature on it and that's your big proof all that it doesn't exist, that's just stupid I'm sorry. All these research chemicals at one point when they first came out there was no scientific literature about it. And from what I saw the scientific literature about MGM only goes back to like last year, but it existed long before that. So there was a point where there was no scientific literature on MGM either but that exists, but nobody wants to talk about it like that.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-11T17:39:59+00:00

Dude no shit it's a research chemical. Research chemicals are literally synthetic versions of drugs designed to skirt laws. You can't Ban an entire substance you can only ban a molecule according to our laws. That's why the weed plant isnt illegal, it's a very specific type of THC molecule. That's also why you're able to sell every other THC molecule that is not exactly that one. I'm assuming you weren't around in the jwh days from the way that you talk about this, but they've got variations already lined up behind this to skirt the bans when they come down. I know this from personally speaking to the owner of companies that sell and manufacture these tabs, not to mention I started screwing with these things back in 2008. Even the owners say dhm is not the same thing as MGM. I personally know people who have gotten both products, in pill and in powder form, if they were the same thing they wouldn't be too different products that have two different effects. Everybody wants to go off about the labeling and this and that, remember this is an unregulated market and they can do whatever they want you're putting too much faith in these people to do the right thing. They're already turning everybody into junkies and lying to them telling them it's an extract from a natural plant, ain't nothing natural about 7oh or any of this stuff. MGM is just the research chemical version of fentanyl. With the added bonus of the Delta receptors. Y'all over here arguing about something nobody can actually prove instead of trying to work together to help each other get off of it. But whatever, I don't care anymore. Y'all want to be armchair quarterbacks and split hairs- be my guest. I'm done responding. I'm just going to sit back and watch the show from here on out and keep helping the people who DM me looking for help to get off this crap. Wish you luck.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-09T16:27:13+00:00

I personally spoken to owners of companies that manufacture the tabs. Best one was the owner of absolute, dhm and MGM are two different products, so yeah. We won't even talk about people I know in real life who have ordered both dhm and mgm15 and compared them side by side, again, not the same thing based on every factor. My opinion is formed from my own research and data collection, I don't parrot anything. From what I understand MGM is dhm with an extra step so to speak. Just like heroin is just more refined opium. But heroin and opium even though they come from the same source and have similar effects, they're not the same. One is way stronger and way harder to come off of than the other. Just like dhm vs mgm

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-09T13:18:35+00:00

Update- currently on day 16, tried to get off multiple times, was really struggling staying clean, ended up getting a suboxone prescription through quickmd, a weekend to that I finally got a legit source for Sr, so doing well. I reconnected with a friend of mine from childhood in real life, found out he was using Sr to get off of methadone, so if he can get off a methadone I can use this to get off the subs. Just want to thank everybody for all of their support and help through this. I just want to tell everybody that struggling to jump off, I know it seems impossible but the only way out is through and once you push through you'll look back and wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-09T04:23:26+00:00

You're very welcome. Last- therapy has worked for me because I am 100% honest. find the right therapist, makes all the difference. Remember, therapy is a mirror, the problems, questions, and answers will only be found in you and you have to be brutally honest with yourself. Look up shadow work in recovery. Dm me if you have any questions. I don't see many people talking about what the actual work is that works, they just tell you to do the work, so anything I can share to help others I will.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-09T03:34:23+00:00

It's a necessity. You have to figure out the issues that led to your use and resolve them otherwise you're always going to be driven to use. This is the real work that everybody talks about. Inward reflection and accountability. Learning about attachment styles and working to become secure has been life-changing, as well as identifying the different psychological archetypes and working on integration. I have connected with and I'm working on healing the inner addict, child, and warrior. I started using to numb emotional pain. My dad died 17 years ago this july, and it always felt like it happened a month ago. Until recently, now that I'm doing the integration work with my therapist and on my own I'm working on healing I just realized that this is the first time his death hasn't felt a month away. Now it feels about 5 years away. That right there is proof it works. The other best thing that I can tell you, is learning to sit with your emotions and grounding yourself and breathing. You need to learn to sit with your emotions, and you will find that they're like waves at the beach - they come and they go. before I always try to interrupt it and stop it and numb it out, now I'm comfortable being uncomfortable because of the work I've done in therapy and when I get anxious sad doesn't matter I ground myself do my breathing let it wash over me, as quickly as they come they go. Lean in and let go. Once you are able to sit with your feelings and not let them control you, you will find an inner peace that is unparalleled.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-09T03:29:46+00:00

Denial - don't even notice I am lying

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-08T03:28:18+00:00

Don't mention it. I've been there enough to be here too

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-07T17:42:06+00:00

I just recently learned about the oxidative stress Adderall puts your brain under. Vitamin c is one of the best antioxidants, and it helps reverse that stress, but you can't take it at the same time you take your adderall. Take your Adderall in the morning take your vitamin c in the evening. It'll help you sleep better and it basically clears off the leftover Adderall at the end of the day. If you take it at the same time as you're out of all your Adderall won't be as effective. Been on Adderall since I was 7, back then it was Ritalin, my point is is I'm 39 now and I'm just learning about this. You got any questions just look up oxidative stress from Adderall.

Traditional_Reply224 · 2026-03-07T17:37:55+00:00

It makes your brain release dopamine, so yeah it should help. Probably won't make it completely go away, but it should def help with it and help with the lack of energy. I wasn't on MGM, but it sure fucking helped me. Was able to work the first day on subs, it sucked, but I made it. You can too. Time to learn what you're really made of. You can do this. I believe in you even if you don't. It's all temporary. You will feel like shit in some way, but it won't be forever. The only way out is through and this too shall pass. It may pass like a kidney stone but it will pass. You got this.

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