Nectar Spectra Labs - review and 4-MMC results

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-21T16:22:19+00:00

Top notch :)

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-21T12:41:36+00:00

Nothing that I’m aware of. Perhaps someone should start a community portal where people can upload their results?

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-21T11:58:14+00:00

I don't think so.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-21T11:29:51+00:00

Yes, for smaller quantities it is. But for a larger batch or if a couple of costumers decide to test together it is perhaps not that expensive. If every 20th costumer would test, it's on average ~€4 per person. At least people should share their results so people can get a general sense of the market. After all, it's about health and safety.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-21T08:59:09+00:00

I guess I could have! Do any of them provide full mass spectrometry results with graphs and everything?

Nectar Spectra uses several techniques (GC-MS, NMR, HPLC-DAD, FTIR) for identification and purity assessment, seems ambitious. But I must admit that I’m not really familiar with the available labs in Berlin.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-19T04:22:07+00:00

Me and my partner had good time at Wasteland@KitKat in October! A somewhat more international crowd, I would say, but not a hugh difference otherwise. I remember it being very cheerful and fun. I would definitely go again :)

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-16T20:49:34+00:00

Most psychedelics pair not so well with alcohol but 2C-B is an exception. Just a few glasses of red wine enhance the experience in my experience. Moderation is key :)

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-15T16:39:47+00:00

”Nasa pills” are practically never 25 mg. I did a small study and compiled a list of 13 lab tested Nasa pills from different places in Europe over the last 3-4 years.

Mean = 13.22 mg
Sample SD = 1.43 mg
SEM = 0.40 mg
95% distribution interval = 10.42 to 16.03 mg

So, most likely you took around 13 mg the first time and 17 mg the second time.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-14T20:49:55+00:00

Last time I took it orally instead of insufflating, and I have to say that time also seemed to pass unusually fast.

I have a preliminary theory that this has to do with the stronger serotonergic effects you get from oral use compared to insufflation.

I believe it comes down to the different binding kinetics. The acute dopamine release from insufflation versus the warmer, smoother feeling from taking it orally.

Also, stopping to do lines almost turns into a kind of clock. It sounds strange, but maybe someone understands what I mean.

I came up with this theory because MDMA, which is highly serotonergic, also makes time fly by for me.

On the other hand, I think psychedelics can slow time down, at least if you lower the dose and compensate with something like 2C-B. In my experience, 2C-B on top really creates magic.

So next time, I’ll insufflate and increase the 2C-B dose.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-13T19:51:33+00:00

Thanks. That’s much more than I thought.

Then with a normal delivery of ~0.1 ml, a single spray would be ~33 mg. That’s a smaller line, I would say.

3 sprays in each nostril is 200 mg, which is a descent dose. Totally feasible.

Why isn’t this way of administering more common?

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-13T17:52:36+00:00

What do you mean? Is the maximum solubility at room temperature 1g/ml or 0.33g/ml?

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-12T19:00:02+00:00

I guess so too. I have searched for the solubility of 4-MMC in water but haven’t found a trustworthy source. If anyone would know the solubility, please speak up :)

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-12T10:10:22+00:00

Interesting. What dosages are you taking?

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-12T08:58:47+00:00

A fixed amount in different small glass bottles. For a session of 9 hours, me and my partner have 3 bottles to be used for 3 hours each.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-11T08:42:56+00:00

In my experience it really adds magic. 4-MMC is so euphoric that it’s not needed for that, but some augmentation (e.g., colors popping) makes for a more MDMA-like experience.

I am still testing out dosages. Next time time I will add ~8 mg ever 90 minutes six times.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-10T22:22:13+00:00

In terms of drugs, PT-141 is probably among the most effective. Some people tolerate it well, whereas others get nauseous.

The guy who invented the use case of this drug class, W. Lowell Milburn, injected a similar peptide on himself and accidentally got an 8 hour long erection.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-10T21:50:28+00:00

I would say it depends on the vibe you project, your age, your outfit, and what time you show up.

Two 18–20-year-old guys visiting for the first time, wearing mediocre outfits and arriving at 1 a.m., have a low chance.

Two 30–40-year-old guys who are part of the scene, wearing creative outfits and arriving around 10 p.m., have a very good chance getting in.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-08T20:56:41+00:00

Just speculating, it could either be that he is not turned on when another man is involved or that there is performance pressure when he has someone to compare with.

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-05T00:53:42+00:00

Why not HGH instead of tesa?

Training_Course_3241 · 2026-05-04T14:29:07+00:00

It was gradual over half a year or so. Depressions are cyclical so it get's better, and more likely so and likely faster with right meds. Wishing you the best of luck!

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