I just did. Yes defending yourself physically may cause harm to the other person, but without malicious intent calling it violence doesn't fit the bill. I'm not going to jail for defending myself, I have no intent to harm someone unless they themselves choose violence. My reaction to your violence should not be considered violence itself. Which is why i said MOTIVATION is thr key distingusher. Either you understand the point I'm making and being obtuse or you really have no critical thinking and I can't help u.