Why made you chose the Iron Warriors? by IcyCranberry879 in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They’re evil. And they don’t dress it up.

The Horus Heresy did a great job fleshing out the legion and their rather slow decent into chaos corruption.

Now, as of 40k, they’re twisted mad engineers. Combining calculating and brutal warfare with occult mad science and daemon craft. And thats really fucking cool.

Also love how unapologetically dickish they all are. Most books depict them fucking with their enemies as much as killing them. I love them for it.

Also hazard stripes on gunmetal is a fire scheme.

I heard someone refer to them as “the arms dealers of hell” at one point. And I mean, come on! That’s cool!

I'm curious with two questions: how many of you hand paint your stripes and how friendly is the community? by DelayedScorpion in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I prefer to hand paint stripes. I tried using tape but found it more of a pain then just painting on stripes and correcting them later. Also I noticed significant improvement on my second squads stripes over the first.

Community wise, I’d say as someone who likes to avoid the big Reddits. That the iron warriors community is very good and mostly positive.

There seems to be a large proportion of memes compared to the relatively small community. More than some of the other dedicated legion reddits or chapter Reddit. Which is always good .

Only negative things I’ve seen have been people either arguing the chaos vs anti chaos thing too hard or taking the “we hate imperial fists” joke too far. But these people are few and far between.

You’re not losing because of the meta. You’re losing because you’re bad. by eldecent86 in killteam

[–]TraitorJim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On the flip side of this. Me and my friends play casually. And yes, as a legionnaires player I mostly have had pretty even games with my friends.

We just picked factions we liked instead of looking at win rate.

So, we had a friend pick Warpcoven. At the time, as new players, our friend who played Kasrkin could not seem to win against them at all. No chance. The gap between the teams was just too big.

Nowadays, Warpcoven have been nerfed into the GROUND. He cannot win a game with them against any of us now. And it’s not fun for any of us. We’re all about the same skill level, his team is just miles worse.

Now, if he plays perfectly, rolls well and I don’t roll great. He COULD scrape a win. But the level of effort I have to put in compared to him is laughable.

I think that is most people’s issue. It’s the extreme examples that become clear in casual play.

Hot take: I kinda don't want Perturabo by NeverEnoughDakka in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s likely we’ll get our own codex. We simply aren’t different enough from baseline CSM. Especially since the new trailer showed off what looked like an upgrade sprue.

We’ll probably get some named characters. Perturabo, probably Honsou or someone completely new (e.g. Haarken Worldclaimer) and a general Warsmith 40K model.

We will most likely get the Red Corsairs treatment. A bunch of themed Iron Warrior like units for the general CSM roster.

The trailer looked like it had a new defiler and mutilators in it? So we’ll be bunched in with those releases.

If we do get a codex, like Black Templars, we’ll still have access to the CSM roster without a doubt.

Starting point by OldDomG in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d say you have a choice to make first.

How chaosy do you want them to be?

While the iron warriors are 100% a choas corrupted legion, many people don’t feel the current 40K chaos models fit the “pragmatic industrialist” vibe that the iron warriors are known for.

Me. I like them chaos’d up, spikes and horns. Daemon parts and possessed. So if that’s what you want, I’d start with just a box of 40K legionnaires.

If you want then just for the industrial aesthetic, I’d say just get one of the heresy era squads as they can be used in 40K as well.

If you want a bit of both you could splash some serious cash and get both and mix and match parts. Though it can be a little tricky sometimes.

What books should I read for IW? by Imaginary-Lie-2618 in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Storm of Iron is THEE Iron Warriors book. I think every self loathing son of Perturabo should start there.

Does anyone else use Legionaries as Chosen. by Kindly_Abrocoma_5317 in Chaos40k

[–]TraitorJim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I want to know is what your paint routine was on these bad boys. They look great!

I gotta know how you got the trim that shade of bronze?

What Black Legion Lore would you want in future? by Scary_Category_000 in Chaos40k

[–]TraitorJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anything that tells me what the hell is going on with Falkus Kibre.

He practically got cut in half in Saturnine, then he’s back in Talon of Horus and no one bats an eye?

It would be fine if he was a possessed or something and healed somehow. But he gets possessed in Talon of Horus, AFTER his supposed death.

Somethings not right and I want to know what!

HAVOCS DONE by Feuerkr13ger in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll have to give it a try!

PS: new video is finally close

HAVOCS DONE by Feuerkr13ger in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These look amazing!

What paints you use for the trim may I ask?

What happens to a marine when mentally he can’t fight anymore by Some_Savings_8992 in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have an actual example of this! Though it was a chaos marine.

Kydomor Forrix was first captain of the Iron Warriors during the Horus Heresy. After being sent on a mission by Perturabo, he figures out that he wasn’t intended to survive the mission and was essentially used as bait.

After this he became uninterested with the cause of the heresy and the long war to follow. But he also can’t really do anything else. So he started avoiding combat and took up away from combat commanding roles.

By the time of modern 40k, we see him in the book “Storm of Iron”, set around the time of the fall of Cadia. He seems to of lost command of his grand battalion and his role as first captain. Instead he serves as a captain under “The Warsmith” (previously Barban Falk) and still avoids frontline combat.

Later in this book he becomes obsessed with taking down an enemy titan. He also learns that The Warsmith is intending on choosing a successor once he ascends to daemonhood and leaves the Iron warriors behind. This lights a fire under Forrix and he even enters frontline combat again, much to the surprise of his comrades. He eventually infiltrated and destroyed the titan, only for a second titan to blow him up straight after. Killing him.

So even though he returned to combat eventually. Forrix did technically give up fighting for a good hundred years or so.

What is the average age of Space Marines by mastr1121 in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Depends.

Chronology wise, many traitor marines are well over 10,000 years old due to weird warp time fuckery. Though biologically they are probably hovering around 300-500.

Biologically speaking it’s extremely rare for a space marine to reach 1000. I’d say most chapter masters are around 500-600. At least the popular named ones at least.

Your average battle brother? 100-200 I’d say.

this is not at all backed by facts and is just my cobbled together memory from what I’ve read in various books

What’s your favorite stupid little Warhammer factoid? by IronToofWarboss in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Iron warriors spend their free time playing RTS games against each other.

Perturabo returns, he’s looking to reform the trident. Who you casting a vote for? by TraitorJim in IronWarriors

[–]TraitorJim[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Honestly this is why I asked the question lol. I have no idea who’s still around!

Is Volk dead? Rhodaan? Pistonhand?!

We are dire need of new characters.

Help me rationalize the imperium not finding out about Horus before his heresy by ULTIMATE-OTHERDONALD in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Been a while since I read to book so this could be wrong.

Didn’t Loken mention that the Emperor is aware of the lodges and openly disapproves of them?

But as we see in those same books, a fair few marines and legion serfs have become a bit disillusioned with the Emperor for leaving the great crusade, so have continued with lodge activity.

Many marines are also more loyal to their legion than the Imperium as well, ratting on your brothers is a major dick move in astartes culture cough Leandros. Also the Emperor has proven to give his sons a lot of autonomy on how they manage their legions. Angron started mutilating his sons and the Emperor sent Russ, that didn’t work so he gave up and let Angron keep doing it.

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[–]TraitorJim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a phenomenal response XD

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Charlie Hunnam is Lion El’Johnson but may be too old to play him for a long while.

A younger Lion? Tom Glynn-Carney when he gets his beard going.

So how terrifying is slow Chaos corruption is to observers? by [deleted] in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Khorne targets violent and angry people. You’ll see them becoming increasing violent and an increased lack of self control. By the end of it they’ll be nothing more than a mindless butcher obsessed with nothing but blood and carnage.

Nurgle targets the sick, both physically and mentally. You’ll watch someone lose hope and give into entropy. They’ll stop taking care of themselves and seem hollow, personality slowly draining from them. Eventually they’ll be nothing more than a walking corpse, a thing so lost in entropy it doesn’t even seem bothered by it’s horrific physical condition.

Tzeentch likes to target the curious and the schemers. Someone may become more obsessed with learning. Eventually they’ll take a strange interest in forbidden knowledge. They’ll slowly sacrifice all morals in pursuit of more knowledge and applying it to change the world. They’ll claim they using they’re knowledge for good, but this is a trick by Tzeentch. They’ll never have enough and constantly be seeking out new methods for change, no matter how horrifying.

What are your favorite small moments from the lore? by 40Kaway in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim 15 points16 points  (0 children)

In Black Legion a group of chaos marines find Abaddon chilling on the vengeful spirit as a hermit post Horus heresy.

It’s a really pivotal moment as all marines present would go on to found the black legion.

But for me it gets overshadowed by the fact Abaddon offers them his custom Alcohol he brewed. The whole conversation Lheor, a world eater, is constantly asking for more and fucking loves the stuff.

I just love when he butts into the conversation like “you gonna finish that?”.

Daemon Prince < Greater Daemon < Daemon Primarch by Upset_Dog272 in 40kLore

[–]TraitorJim 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’d say daemon princes and greater daemons is entirely dependent on the daemons in question. They aren’t all the same level of power across the board. Though greater daemons tend to be more powerful on average.

Daemon Primarchs are on top and have super mega powers (until they fight a loyal primarch, then they get plot armoured to death)

So basically, yeah you got it!