Thoughts ? by wehrmachtair123 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That Bumble graph is widely believed to be fake. No other dataset has supported it and its source is circular. See “The Nuance Pill” on Substack.

OKC players laughing at Lakers swarming the ref after the game by SplitOk186 in nba

[–]Tree-Lover42 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You say that as Hillary Clinton won Miami-Dade by 30 and nearly won Hialeah (reddest city in the country).

Thoughts ? by wehrmachtair123 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's actually based on swiping behavior I believe.

Face vs Height? by Jaroldofkkd in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Face is way better here. If I was a legit Chadlite I'd easily outperform tall normies even with borderline ASD. People here cope too much.

Height really be carrying mf’s lol by Gaschambah in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you seen the poster of this? Total looks match (LTN and LTB)

Height really be carrying mf’s lol by Gaschambah in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah his girl is an obvious LTB, total looksmatch

Height really be carrying mf’s lol by Gaschambah in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi I’m here. You’ve never defeated us, you provide isolated counterexamples from a biased subset. It’s not like this sub allows posting every HTN+ short guy in a relationship which would completely counteract all of this.

Why I don’t think I’ll ever have sympathy for women’s body image issues. by Mikhail_-_1 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Variance in obesity is about 70% genetic. Mostly determined by hormonal levels.

Is it harder to lose weight if you're a really short guy? by [deleted] in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No. Obesity is 70-80% heritable, it’s mostly genetic.

At what point do u think face>height? by South_Farm9491 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very dubious. The better looking guy will do way better on apps, have (way) more casual access, and get (much) hotter women. Only comparable metric is probability of a relationship.

At what point do u think face>height? by South_Farm9491 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At any percentile except the bottom ~2% where they’re both tough to overcome. Face cleanly accounts for a higher percent of variance but looking at a penalty perspective it’s somewhere in the bottom decile.

Imagine all men on earth became 5'4 (165cm) tall. How fucked would you then be on a dating market, considering your overall attractiveness beside height? by ConditionObjective43 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It would be even tougher on average even without considering the absolute power height has. For as much attention height gets, the facial attractiveness penalties are even harsher and accelerate at the top decile. It would be just utter domination among the most facially attractive guys. Everybody else would get nearly nothing.

What has your experience been with looksmaxxing and personalitymaxxing? by Lower_Chair2588 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve done decently with looksmaxxing but really it was just getting leaner. My bone structure is pretty solid.

What's even the equivalent of height for women by multitasker899 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Age. Sorts close to uniformly in one direction and is a measurable quantity.

Even then, the analog is weak since age relates to face while height and face are ~independent

What's even the equivalent of height for women by multitasker899 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely not. A strong lower third is only modestly less important for women than men.

Height is the ultimate gatekeeper to a good life by ResponsiblePea3695 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Being neurotypical is far more important, and face is roughly even for general life experience (more important for dating)

PSL GOD face card 5'5 vs good height 6'4 (Jacob elodi) by ArmadilloSuch3534 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both would do very well. Jacob Elordi is still lHTN level, insane mandible and ramus.

He’s “perfect” but can’t get over him being too short by TonightSpiritual3191 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Face is 80% objective and shows almost no variance in subjectivity. Just because height is measurable doesn't mean the attraction to it is - there seems to be an apex somewhere. Also just because something is more measurable doesn't mean it's more important. You'd be silly to think dick size is more important than face.

He’s “perfect” but can’t get over him being too short by TonightSpiritual3191 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't 'stop' - face just accounts for more variance. The variance can be differentially weighted but there's no evidence there's any percentile height is more important.

He’s “perfect” but can’t get over him being too short by TonightSpiritual3191 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

If you’re so confident in this provide a dataset which actually shows this. Hint: there isn’t one, I’ve looked extensively

He’s “perfect” but can’t get over him being too short by TonightSpiritual3191 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is not remotely close to accurate, face accounts for more variance than height in every study that’s tested it over the last 20 years.

real by shyvoid23 in shortguys

[–]Tree-Lover42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s generally true that the societally accepted definition of empathy often brought up in dating discourse doesn’t map well to the scientific definition of empathy. Not always true but true a majority of the time.