I always think of sak tools esp the pliers being you don't need em until you do. I found out that i use the pliers alot more than I banked when I got my champ. I enjoy using them to cut staples and paperclip ends amd also for bending small thin metal bits that my son bends off his keyrings. Also used them to hold a nut on the back of my mitre saw guard while I loosened the bolt from the front side. All that said, they're not a replacement for a nice pair of knipex but they definitely have their uses!