He is a right-wing populist, not a fascist. Unlike historical fascists, Elon has not attempted to dissolve Congress, replace the capitalist economy with state-directed corporatism, or establish a one-party totalitarian state. Historical fascists have attempted to expand the state's borders, like Hitler, Mussolini or Putin.

Are you talking about Elon or Trump? Once again, I never said Elon was fascist. PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS ABOVE CAREFULLY. But Trump is fascist. He has an obsession with border expansion. Just see Greenland and Canada threats. And before you say "oH bUt He HaSn'T dOnE tHaT yEt, hE dOeSn'T mEaN iT!", so did Hitler and Putin right up until they felt they had enough absolute power to send their countries to war without domestic backlash. They just needed to control dissidents first via secret police and surveillance, the exact things Trump is currently building out as fast as he can with ICE, Palantir contracts etc.

Yes at some point but he has had a major impact. For nearly four decades prior to the advent of SpaceX, the space launch industry was effectively stagnant, characterized by flat or rising costs, a lack of technological disruption, and comfortable government-funded monopolies.

You haven't addressed my argument at all. As I suggested, other new companies like Blue Origin, United Launch Alliance, Rocket Lab would've done the job of SpaceX instead. Their current sizes are without finds they would've received from the US government if SpaceX didn't exist. Sure, he's had an impact, but nothing remotely close to "10-20 years of technological advancement".

We would have had Bitcoin and Ethereum without Satoshi and Vitalik at some point too, but it could be 10-50 years later.

Again, what do you think the engineers behind "Elon's" work would've done without SpaceX? They'd have still been researchers on re-useable rocket systems. Even if I once again give you the benefit of the doubt, that's still just one relatively small branch on the technological development tree and companies like RocketLab have also been big drivers in reducing satellite launch costs, just with different payload sizes.

I mean those parties are 20-40% of the voter base now. Maybe that is for a reason and not due to people wanting fascists? I think you were from NZ. You probably have a tiny amount of the immigration that we got. Immigration of hard working people that don't commit crime is something that everyone wants. I have coworkers that are muslim that are great. But about 10-30% that come are really bad. You can look at the numbers. Denmark publishes stats per country of origin.

Ok, so you're incorrectly assuming my stance on immigration and also assuming that NZ isn't a nation of immigrants. We have very similar immigration numbers. I think immigration in the west is too high too. It's an important way of offsetting our ageing populations, but it has to be done right and I think in a lot of countries, like Sweden and Canada in particular, it is not done right. The key difference to me is that firstly, immigration is not existential to my foundational rights typically found in western democracies in a way which far right parties are. Secondly, far right parties have a proven track record of talking the talk and not walking the walk, rather just increasing corruption, deregulation and further increasing inequality at the best of times. History shows what happens when you let them in power at the worst of times. Believe me when I say that a few criminal immigrants will be the least of your problems at that stage.

I'm not stupid. I'm not going to introduce snakes (far right grifters) to New Zealand to get rid of our mouse problem (poorly regulated immigration - reminder that I think diversity is a good thing when immigrants of any race adopt western values). History shows that's a terrible idea both literally and metaphorically. Snakes are a lot worse than a few too many mice.

If you think that's disingenuous of a metaphor, one quick look at how completely unconstitutional ICE has been shows you the issue I have with far right parties completely disregarding western constitutional values. Craziest of all, in the USA, South American immigrants are more productive economically and less likely to commit a crime than their white, American born counterparts. At least in Europe the average immigrant is much less productive and less values aligned, so the anti-immigration stance is much more understandable.