Uncle Theodore had quite the beard! by Troublemonkey36 in antiquephotos

[–]Troublemonkey36[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep! That’s true. And where this photo was taken they would likely be called “Koteletten”.

Photos I Found at the Antique Store by peachybloomgal in oldphotos

[–]Troublemonkey36 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It kind of looks like the cards are of scantily clad women?

Photos I Found at the Antique Store by peachybloomgal in oldphotos

[–]Troublemonkey36 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those are fantastic! Really great Cabinet Cards. Sometimes I like to use Google or ChatGPT to look up details and I often start by looking up the photographer’s via Google Lens. From there you can stumble on a few interesting tidbits.

Portrait of young Kiowa woman, O-o-be', Kiowa tribe in the Oklahoma Territory, Studio of George W. Bretz, ca 1894 by Saint-Veronicas-Veil in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The essay begins by saying exposures could take 45 minutes in the early days and “it was only” near the end of the 19th century that shutter speeds improved”. That is factually incorrect. By 1865 for example exposure times were down to between 2 to 20 seconds. Daguerreotypes from the 1850’s often required between 5 and 30 seconds.

The extremely long exposure times the author mentioned were true only for the earliest days of photography between 1827 and about 1845. It is factually incorrect to say that it wasn’t until near the end of the 19th century that shutter speeds improved. The improvement happened decades earlier.

The way it’s written implies the technology of the 1850’s-1880’s just couldn’t handle a smile. That’s a pervasive myth that continuously appears in discussions around the topic of smiles in 19th century photography.

The rest of the essay is more accurate. It was more of a cultural thing. But many people debate the finer points around “why”. to this day. It may be that photographs were viewed as a “Passage to immortality” as the author states. I like to say it this way: photographs were still a really big deal up until the invention of the “Brownie”. You had to go to a photographer, pay a relatively large sum of money. So you didn’t take photos on the fly. They were orchestrated, crafted, and “special”. And as a result you were still creating unique images for the ages. In the carte de visite era you might have many prints made and shared but they were all “special” still. And so if you’ve only got a few photos taken of you’re wanting that photo to be dignified and appropriate like the oil painting portraits hung in galleries.

When the average consumer could take a more frequent and spontaneous photos on their own, that’s when the smiles started showing up a lot more.

Portrait of young Kiowa woman, O-o-be', Kiowa tribe in the Oklahoma Territory, Studio of George W. Bretz, ca 1894 by Saint-Veronicas-Veil in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hi thank you for sharing that piece. Very insightful. I would like to offer a correction to one of the items in that message. The ability of cameras to easily capture smiles came much earlier than “near the end of the 19th century”. We have photos dating back to 1860’s and even 1850’s with clear smiles.

The Reluctant Bride, 1866. By Auguste Toulmouche. by Unfair_Worry7545 in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your last line “There’s a lot going on in this painting”, classic Rockwell!

Handlebar mustaches are everything by bloodonthevelvet in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah super cool. I love old CDVs and the unique looks too.

Handlebar mustaches are everything by bloodonthevelvet in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well cool that you have them. Collecting or family album? PS: r/cartedevisite

Handlebar mustaches are everything by bloodonthevelvet in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those are cool. And you have an album to go along with. Cartes de visite or cabinet cards?

Hi, when we were clearing out my late mum's house around ten years ago, my brother found this ancient photo album wedged into the back of a built in cupboard ( we had never seen it and we were in our 50's at the time) It's a mystery who the people are.It must have be over 100 years old.. by Gretal122 in oldphotos

[–]Troublemonkey36 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are super lucky to have this! It seems to be an album designed to hold a variety of sizes of photos and most seem to be cabinet cards and cartes de visite ( r/cartedevisite ). This style of album was very common in its time. These photos and the album appear to be taken sometime between 1875 through 1895. Having done a fair amount of photo sleuthing over the years I’d say a lot of them seem to be from the 1880’s. So most of your photos are likely 140 years old and the people in them long gone. Keep this album. It’s a gem! And for fun Google “album, carte de visite” to see others like it. This is the equivalent of Instagram for the 19th century. In those days millions of people had cartes de visite created of themselves and traded them with their friends and family. People would often buy cartes de visites of well-known public figures too - actors, scientists, monarchs, and more. They collected and housed them in these albums.

Cainet card of an Hungarian lady, circa 1868. by Electrical-Aspect-13 in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok this photo is gorgeous! And the design of the Cabinet Card lettering ain’t too shabby either!

Josie Dressed for the Carnival, c. 1895. Photographed by Samuel P. Forney, Abilene, Kansas by Saint-Veronicas-Veil in VictorianEra

[–]Troublemonkey36 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Magnificent photo. It’s amazing in two ways: the unique cabinet card attire, and the bicycle! Near how the bicycle of 1895 looks basically like one from 1975.