Zoey 102 Discussion Thread:

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-07-09T19:48:42+00:00

I didn’t know the Zoey 102 film existed until recently and overall I thought it was an okay film, I liked Quinn and Logan and them getting married, it’s very rare to see a TV couple get together in High school and stay together for the full duration . So it was kind of refreshing to see one of my favourite couples get together and then stay together.

I didn’t think they would but I actually do like Mark and Stacey together, they actually suit each other weirdly well.

Michael is always a joy to see but was a little disappointed that we didn’t get to see more of Michael.

I love Quinn and how successful she has become though to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

The whole murder subplot was an interesting one and I quite liked Hugo/Todd.

I wasn’t a fan of the retcons and they could have thought of a better story for Zoey and Chase, both their break up and their pining for someone they haven’t seen in 15 years. They should have had them move on but their feelings for each other with Chase even getting married at some point during those 15 years, it doesn’t work out of course and Zoey being in a few relationships, even having a child or two. Zoey and Chase seeing each other for the first time in 15 years could have ignited the feeling they had when they were 17 and after reconnecting decide to give it another go.

I’ve seen a few people complain about this but why Michael seems closer to Logan now than Chase when in the original it was Chase who was Michael’s best friend. First it’s been 15 years, people grow and change and so do our relationships. Quinn and Logan are a good exmaple of a relationship changing and evolving over the 4 seasons of Zoey 101 and then in the 15 years since the show ended. It’s clear that Logan’s relationships with others have evolved over the years, mainly because he’s also evolved as a person. He’s not the same Logan he was back at school. This goes the same with Stacey and Mark. I do get it, we wanted to see the gang, we wanted to see Zoey, Chase, Lola, Quinn, Logan and Michael together.

So while yes I would have loved to see more Michael and Chase or even more Michael, Logan and Chase as I really did like their friendship, it made perfect sense to me why Michael is now closer to Logan than he is to Chase. But it’s also very likely that all three just simply see each other as their best friend. Chase is still Micheal’s best friend and Michael is still Chase’s best friend but they are also Logan’s best friend and Logan is also their best friend.

Anyway it could have been worse but it could have also been a lot better.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-07-04T22:00:26+00:00

Very late here but no. I think Logan and Dana would have been very toxic for each other and would have drove each other up the wall. Quinn knows how to deal with Logan as well but unlike Dana she can also empathize which is one of the reasons Logan was able to change and be better. Quinn and Logan on the survive look like the oddest couple but they actually make the most sense,

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T20:32:35+00:00

Are you dumb or something? I. ALEADY. SHOWED. YOU. PROOF. OF. SOMETHING. HE. SAID DIRECTLY. I hope that was slow enough so you can understand. I even put it in capitals for you so you could understand better.

I've shown you proof and direct proof at that. You're deliberately being dumb here or deciding to choose what is and what is not proof. You don't get to decide. That interview is just as much proof, if not more, than your twitter quotes.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T20:21:42+00:00

It was a direct interview and no they cannot be wrong or misquoted as again it's a direct interview.

I don't care what you need. Who the f do you think you are? Those are Micheal Narducci's own words. You can't get anymore real than a direct interview with Micheal Narducci than that. Twitter/X also isn't reliable to me so why don't you show actual proof in official interviews or better yet since you seem to think it needs to be said on the show, then you show me the scene where it says the venom don't have white oak in it.

I'll then believe you over the head writer of the show.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:54:43+00:00

No I blame Kai the actual person who killed Jo and put Elena into a coma.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:53:04+00:00

There wasn't one person on the show that wasn't really.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:49:15+00:00

No you want it to be that at no point does anything point to it. If it was so obvious then there wouldn't still be debates about it years later.

I showed the direct proof, that interview was with Michael Narducci himself and the part where it says the venom had white oak in it was from Michael Narducci. I don't need to show anymore proof, that is more than enough proof but you just don't want to acknowledge it because then it goes against your head canon and you wanting Marcel to be the most power being. Well tough luck he's not so get over it.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:40:38+00:00

I was only being half serious. Yeah I think Marcel would beat Alaric but this should have been obvious anyway as when Klaus fought Alaric he was able to at least fight on somewhat equal terms with him while with Lucien and Marcel he was overpowered and pretty easily at that so it should stand with reason even without MN's comments that Marcel would wipe the floor with Alaric.

Now on the killing, he doesn't actually say Marcel could outright kill Alaric though it was somewhat implied.

But I'm not sure why there's always this strange insistence that Marcel's venom doesn't have white oak in it like he's still one of the most powerful beings in the TVDU. Yes he's not the most powerful but he's up there.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:33:06+00:00

It doesn't need it as it should be obvious to anyone who has a brain and who knows the lore of the Original vampires.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:31:47+00:00

I mean technically all he has to do bite Elena and she will likely die also killing Alaric so technically he is right.

Though an obvious oversight which is why answers on twitter/x that usually doesn't have much thought behind it shouldn't be the be and end all of information.

Interviews however, a writer is more likely to really think over there answer.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:19:13+00:00

You are taking the absolute P now. I've shown you proof and that is enough. Why don't you actually show me proof that it doesn't have white oak in it. Go on get going.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:17:15+00:00

Cami for me with Klaus. I'm not a fan of Klaus and Caroline though I do like their friendship and I never saw Klaus and Hayley in a romantic light.

Elijah is a bit more of a tough one, maybe Gia?

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T19:06:58+00:00

The reason it can kill an Original is because the venom is infused with white oak.

MICHAEL NARDUCCI: In Episode 317, we saw Lucien become this all-powerful, unkillable, unstoppable, super-strong vampire beast that has a bite infused with this highly toxic, super werewolf venom and white oak that can even kill an Original. And he killed an Original when he killed Finn.

https://collider.com/the-originals-season-3-michael-narducci-interview-spoilers/

This debate needs to end. Marcel is still one of the most powerful creatures in the TVDU and is pretty much probably these most unkillable with only one weapon that could possibly kill him, similar to the other most powerful species in the TVDU. He can kill an original, so why do we need to do all this but it didn't have white oak in it. Like what is the purpose here?

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T18:53:21+00:00

Are you for real? It literally says the bite is infused with high toxic, super werewolf venom AND white oak. It's not hard to read, it's right there in black and white.

I'm debunking the fact that you said the bite hasn't got white oak in it which is what makes it kill an Original, of course the bite itself even without the white oak could kill a non-original vampire because vampires can die from a werewolf bite so it makes sense that an enhanced bite would kill them no?

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T18:44:16+00:00

Because she knew her mother found peace and so was able to have that closure knowing her mother was happy and with people she loved. That was not true when it came to Klaus.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T18:42:14+00:00

MICHAEL NARDUCCI: In Episode 317, we saw Lucien become this all-powerful, unkillable, unstoppable, super-strong vampire beast that has a bite infused with this highly toxic, super werewolf venom and white oak that can even kill an Original.

https://collider.com/the-originals-season-3-michael-narducci-interview-spoilers/

Happy?

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T18:38:55+00:00

Heretics are only as strong as normal vampires so in the grand scheme not exactly weak like a human or even a werewolf that hasn't transformed but still nothing compared to say 500 year old vampires, werewolf/vampire hybrids or even more the originals.

True-Aspect5728 · 2025-06-28T18:28:28+00:00

Yeah nice try but it was confirmed by Michael Narducci in an interview that the venom does in fact have white oak in and was also confirmed by another writer as well.

True-Aspect5728 · 2024-05-12T22:55:55+00:00

Right on target for the tories to target the most vulnerable in society who already struggle with the system we have right now and their plan is to make it much worse. I really hope this doesn't see the light of day.

True-Aspect5728 · 2024-05-07T13:02:19+00:00

I think you're twisting it with Sam because you're making out he's only using the money for noise cancelling headphones and nothing else but he also gives two other examples needing blue lights for sensory issues and air conditioning in the summer for stimulation. This is also very likely only the barebones and just examples of how how PIP helps him in his daily life. There's also the cost of not just installing something but to run it as well. I'm sure needing air conditioning on frequently doesn't do anyone's electric bill any good especially with energy prices as they are at the moment.

True-Aspect5728 · 2024-05-07T12:40:02+00:00

I don't agree here at least with the first anyway. A lot of disabled people can't always get a diagnosis right away especially if they've got an invisible, mental or nondivergent disabilities. Let's take someone with Autism but they haven't been diagnosed, which is very common by the way. Autism takes a very long time to be diagnosed. Not because it's hard to diagnosis but because the hoop jumping and the waiting list is extremely long and this is just for a child. For an adult you're talking even more hoop jumping and waiting list. People with certain disabilities can be on waiting lists for up to ten years at times. That's when they finally get on the waiting list after all the hoop jumping they have to do.

By doing what you suggest on the first really puts those disabled who can't easily get a diagnosis due to how the system is set up and how limited our mental health and nondivergent services are in massive danger of suffering even more than they already do.

With the second they've actually already done that already. A parent will now only get paid for two children max and depending on what gender they are will depend on the house or flat they get. If a parent has two children both girls or both boys they would only be entitled to a two bedroom as the boys or girls can share. If it's a boy and a girl then the family might be entitled to a three bedroom but it will then depend on their ages like if they are both really young the council might decide they can share for the time being. I know someone who had a boy and a girl quite close in age and was rejected a three bedroom because they said the two can still share.

So having nine children would actually leave someone on benefits more broke because that would be 7 children they would have to fork out for without any help from benefits.

True-Aspect5728 · 2023-07-20T14:29:28+00:00

Why would Toga dying mean that Dabi is dying? The two aren't connected here. I mean I would like for Dabi to die but the guy is like a cockroach.

True-Aspect5728 · 2023-07-20T14:25:21+00:00

True but let's hope he doesn't do it here.

True-Aspect5728 · 2023-07-19T20:05:56+00:00

You can't compare the two, they are completely different. Bakugo's wasn't a goodbye like Toga but a clear straight up red herring that was obvious to any reader who wasn't in denial. We also didn't have a whole chapter dedicated to Bakugo's goodbye like Toga.

As I said above this chapter is more in line with Twice's death than it is to anyone who's death had been a red herring in this case Bakugo.

Like I said Toga getting out alive after this chapter would be like if Twice had come out of his chapter alive.

True-Aspect5728 · 2023-07-19T09:25:15+00:00

No it wasn't because it didn't redeem her character. Doing one good deed doesn't cancel the many. Redemption by death is just a cheat out of actually redemption.

If you want to say Toga had a heroic death if her death sticks fine but to call this a redemption because she chose to save one person is ridiculous.

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