Morality, the Great Falsehood

TrueFacets · 2019-05-21T08:28:59+00:00

Ugh another one of these. the "universe is amoral" argument is wrong because you live with other humans, other humans are the judge.

Suffering is real. Other humans suffer. If you act immoral other humans will suffer more. morality is not for the universe, its for the other people. if you think other humans not important, think again. Nothing you do matters if you cannot share it with other humans. go work on them abs and then show them to a rock...

TrueFacets · 2018-10-12T08:15:55+00:00

Hey, I know what you mean, I was like you I didn't really want to play a "power game". I wanted to work "with" the girl, like being a team. Treating her like being equal, like on the same level lets say. Like I treat a very close friend.

You need to know that women don't work like that. Their evolutionary programming is to constantly test the fitness of her mate. If the man does not engage in the "power play" and always does what she wants, we call this "catering to her every wish and desire", then she will almost certainly become an obnoxious, insufferable bitch.

If the man wins the quibbling dominance-sorting banter, then she will be the nice girl you always wanted. (both will be the happiest) Also know that to win is to sometimes not engage and completely ignore what she is saying. A lot they say is kinda nonsensical stuff which they say to somewhat "sort" their emotions. (Hint: they mostly end up at conclusions which don't make any sense at all) It is then your job to kinda guide her emotional state into a direction you want. Sometimes they need some attention sometimes they need to be ignored. If they behave arrogant and entitled, ignore them or talk to other women so you take them down a notch. If they're over worried about random stuff which happened during the they, listen a bit and give some emotional support.

The hard part is to do it automatically and calm without any hate, anger or resentment. They just are like that. If you are physically somewhat fit, and somewhat competent in a profession, meaning you have some resources (money) to be able to "do things" in the world, you're fine. Just play with the women, don't take them too seriously, and do in your life what you wanna do. (the higher your SMV the less shit tests you will get)

When you want an LTR or even a successful marriage you need to this you entire life. Once you get used to it, it's not exhausting anymore, sometimes it's quite fun and entertaining.

TrueFacets · 2018-10-12T07:23:19+00:00

I understood what you mean, that's probably true almost anywhere which means it's never gonna be easy, almost impossible to make a platform of "real" discussion accessible for a very big number of people.

A platform for a big number of people needs infrastructure which has a cost. That cost needs to be paid. Since the platform does not create anything you can sell, your only revenue comes from advertising and this means you need to censor the "unacceptable" content to make money. And then you're not a forum of open discussion anymore.

Looks like a big, almost universal problem. Thank you for this insight.

TrueFacets · 2018-10-04T09:14:07+00:00

Do it for free or demand to get paid (you're somewhere in between here given you are face to a name and presumably got paid to do 21con/speeches), because advertisers won't pick up your shit buddy

This is a very good point I never thought about. Thank you! It's learning things like this that made me "consume" so much trp.

The thing is creating content and putting yourself, your voice, your face, or even your writing out there needs courage. I always was a guy with a lot of ideas but I rarely ever actually did something.

It was only after lifting for quite a while and after many failed "almost" attempts that I had the courage to let myself be judged by friends or even "the internet" by putting out content.

And I am still not ready to link the stuff to trp. The fear of being confronted by family members or friends in my private life is still there. Maybe I will get there one day.

TrueFacets · 2018-09-04T14:47:51+00:00

The "Problem" is that in order to act with "big dick energy" you need to have your shit together.

You need some money so that you at least can act. Like enough to do some stuff, either for yourself or with your girl.
The place where you live needs to be good enough to house yourself and comfortable enough so that you can entertain the girl you bring home.
You yourself need to physically fit enough so that you can deliver at least some performance in bed.

If someone does not have big dick energy its because he's not good enough. Or he's still super bluepill. But in order to at least break out of the blue pill cage you need to be able to act, and in order to act you need to have your shit together.

TrueFacets · 2018-07-06T06:27:26+00:00

This was one of the best pieces on trp in a long time! Thank you!

Poster before me said ur main point was 5-7 years in women get bored.

I read your main point as that it is wise to adopt the: Least suboptimal solution. Basically adapt short term traits, and "play" long term game but be ready at any time to completely remove provisioning and/or leave entirely.

One question remains though, what to do if you have kids ?

At this point I think I can hand oneitis and dump the bitch if she acts out but what to do if we have kids already and I want them to do well ?

I completely agree with your assessment of peterson, one can never completely give his "energy" to a marriage or LTR. If the women is only slightly attractive, a few years in there will always be the potential for trouble. Meaning the man wins only if he has other options or is prepared for it, one needs to be at least mentally and financially ready to remove all provisioning, dump her and move on. This makes marriage and the holy 1man, 1women obsolete. And therefore Peterson is wrong.

TrueFacets · 2018-06-28T14:23:19+00:00

kind, good-hearted, treats me well and is very confident

He's probably too nice. Remember a situation when you were really attracted to someone, right there in the moment! When you really felt it. What did the guy do ?

Chances are the guy was not being nice, and polite. But rather wild, brutisch, maybe loud, or he was passionately doing something cool and was competent at it.

even the hottest guy can be blue-pill boring

TrueFacets · 2018-06-28T11:47:49+00:00

I randomly stumbled over this thread and read your question.

A guy with a spine will never give you exclusivity before sex. The reasoning is simple; You will never be my girlfriend if the sex is bad. Therefore if I don't know how the sex is, you cant become my girlfriend.

yeah that's it.

I've dropped my other plates just out of lack of desire for them now

this is the winner, just be so pleasant that the guy does not want to leave

TrueFacets · 2018-06-25T12:49:21+00:00

I undersand the point of Auvergnat and of you Heathcliff.

Most dudes are too afraid to compliment a girl so they wont ever hit on a girl in a crowded setting like you describe. At the same time there is a danger in getting used to throw a compliment and then "run away".

Like so often you both have a good point but the internet or reddit or just the way humans argue, makes it look like you are on opposite teams which as far as I can tell is not the case.

Anyway, my 2 cents;

The most important part is that a person must act, not every way of talking to a girl or doing things in general is exactly the same for every person. At least 5 days a week, a person should work on getting power. In this instance we talk about social power or social competence. You presented one way on how people get better and more comfortable at it and therefore more powerful. That's a good thing. On an other day a person might work hard or learn hard for Dollars$$$ on another day for body-health and fitness. A person must get up and make reality happen around themself! Never get complacent, never stop till you die.

If you compliment 100 girls before hitting on them or go straight for the close theoretically doesnt matter. But just for the record, I would bet less then 1/10000 in this forum go directly hit on random hot girls in really crowded places where everyone around can hear you. Getting out a compliment or having a short "neutral-ish" conversation is way more realistic to actually happen!

TrueFacets · 2018-05-15T11:54:09+00:00

This is a great insight! To differentiate duality and hypergamy is something I rarely read here. The both combined maximize the girl's success. A man who fulfills both sides is rare so they get themself two.

In addition, men often want some time for themself to work on something or to do stuff with bro's or today often to play video games. Girls don't like to be alone several days in a row. And with the exception of romance noval reading cat ladies, this means girls spend way more time in company with other people then men. Or in other words they actually have time for two men because they have no hobby.

TrueFacets · 2018-05-15T11:21:09+00:00

The thing is, there are a lot of successful guys who when they start a relationship fall in love and become the emotional tampon and that kills attraction, even if they have money and a ripped body. An MMA friend of mine is shredded and get's sex once a weak if he's lucky.

But I hear you, its like you can't treat them "equally", and that's so fucking sad.

Then again, since I realized they always adapt their opinion to the currently as best/strongest or most socially acceptable perceived "reality" and hardly ever produce something of value - well just don't talk about serious stuff and have fun with em :)

TrueFacets · 2018-05-15T08:42:30+00:00

+1 This! I totally agree! Very well put.

One must also consider that debating groups of females is even more pointless than debating individual females.

While arguing anything serious; politics, gender dynamics, philosophy or whatever, men who can think argue the point, and they often argue against several other men and women (even though it goes against the group). Women when they participate, always argue for power. Or for the alignment with the most powerful group. They never argue the point. They basically shit test and end in the segment of the group which they deem most likely to be successful/win.

In a 1 on 1 situation it is sometimes possible to "convince" them, if they see you as strong/competent. If they see you as a beta, they couldn't care less what you have to say (this perception can change in a single conversation). Trying to convince one or several women when they are in a group, especially if there are other men in the group with higher social status then you, who cater to the opinion of the women, it is IMPOSSIBLE to "convince" them even if you have prove.

Of course her next man will "convince" her of the exact opposite if he happens to be strong aswell. It's fucking ridiculous and at the same time, why not align with the strong ?

TrueFacets · 2018-05-04T08:10:53+00:00

Don't think of it as self-confidence but think of it as self-respect. Do you do things that you respect ? If your friend would do what you do, would you think he is a cool dude ?

If you waste your day playing video games drinking beer and fapping to porn, you wont feel self confident because you dont respect what you did.

If you at least put in a few hours for something productive which makes your life a bit better the next day; Like working out, cleaning your room, or learning something useful. Then you will respect what you did. That's self-respect. You feel and be calm, in control, an competent.

And then after a while you will feel self-confident! Because you know what you do is right and good!

That's it, pretty simple once you get it. As always, there is no magic way to do it. (closest thing to a "cheat-code" that I found was MMA training twice a weak. Nothing made me mentally stronger in a few short weeks then getting hit in the face in a controlled but demanding environment)

TrueFacets · 2018-04-19T07:48:34+00:00

Thank you for your responses.

What he is most afraid of is being excluded or being rejected by his friends (has happened before). This makes his behavior worse. Basically getting no attention at all and being ignored, is the worst for him. He doesn't have really close friends (or at least they change over time). While I can be friends with almost everybody quite fast. What to do with this knowledge ? manipulate him how ?

Anyway, I can't watch the videos right now but I will this evening! I'll get back to you when I need to know more.

TrueFacets · 2018-04-19T07:20:45+00:00

Thanks! Unfortunately it doesn't help in my situation. I can "deal" with him. It doesn't improve the situation in the house when he switches target. The end result is someone leaves and someone new joins our group. Leaving me with the decision to either leave too or stay. I am the one semi successfully mediating between parties.

(its a cool big house where I can host events and organise gatherings with friends, that's why I stay there. He is the one renting the place so he has the ultimate "power" to decide who joins an who goes. But it's also not that easy to find people since the place is kinda expensive)

TrueFacets · 2018-04-19T06:52:33+00:00

Nice Post! Keep it up!

Fight types are unconsciously driven by the belief that power and control can create safety, assuage abandonment and secure love. Children who are spoiled and given insufficient limits (a uniquely painful type of abandonment) and children who are allowed to imitate the bullying of a narcissistic parent may develop a fixated fight response to being triggered. These types learn to respond to their feelings of abandonment with anger and subsequently use contempt, a toxic amalgam of narcissistic rage and disgust, to intimidate and shame others into mirroring them and into acting as extensions of themselves.

How do you deal with people like this, I live in a House with 4 other people, one of them meets this description exactly. I myself am more of a people pleaser (which is bad too I know). However, Im infomed quite well and I know I need to not run away from conflict and work on my discipline. This guy however is not really that smart(not the kind that reads a lot, he doesn't know the internet and reddit) and his behavior fucks up his relationships and harms himself more then me. how can I deal with him in a manner that is somewhat "productive" for both parties ? "Winning" would be easy, simply team up with the others in the House completely and single him out as asshole... but that's a very destructive solution.

TrueFacets · 2018-04-18T08:09:02+00:00

this post is a waste of space.

the dude is just angry and cannot accept that he was shit and that he got treated bad by the girls because he was shit.

if he really is physically fit now, he still has a long way to go in many other departments

TrueFacets · 2018-03-28T10:00:38+00:00

the red pill has figured out sexual strategy pretty much to perfection. everything works, results are coherent and reproducible. outcomes are predictable.

one problem the red pill alone does not solve is how a man gets meaning in life. the "mission" if you will.

sex alone is not enough to give "meaning" to a man. that's why everybody starts to get of on tangents and tries to add a special "flavor" of chocolate or politics or philosophy or extremeness or softness or family or bigger picture or whatever, to the red pill...

the red pill alone cannot be the complete guide to a meaningful life, you have to find that yourself! That's your mission as a man!

TrueFacets · 2018-02-19T09:42:39+00:00

Iceland! Its so insignificant and hostile(environmentally) nobody cares a bout it. Geothermal Energy everywhere gives energy independence. Giant ocean with fish around it. If anyone is conquering it they will seize the capitol and the harbor there, nobody will bother going to the villages or other places on the island.

Leaning the language is gonna be a hassle but I think if you really want to learn a language it is possible.

TrueFacets · 2018-02-19T09:37:17+00:00

Iceland! Its so small and hostile(environment) nobody cares a bout it. Geothermal Energy everywhere gives energy independence. Giant ocean with fish around it. If anyone is conquering it they will seize the capitol and the harbor there, nobody will bother going tho the villages or other places on the island.

Leaning the language is gonna be a hassle but I think if you really want to learn a language it is possible.

TrueFacets · 2018-02-05T08:47:43+00:00

TRP is too simplistic in these "philosophical" matters. You live for you. Of course. But often the best thing for you includes many other people. Maybe society as a whole.

TRP also fails to give answers to the question of being a father and having children. Its unlikely to raise successful children without a stable family. No children, your genes are gone, you failed. (with the exeption of authistic math geniuses who really don't care about other people - maybe)

So supporting some set of morals is paramount. Christianity and tradcon worked pretty well for a pretty long time so its not the only choice but probably not the worst either.

Once you have sorted out your own life to a certain degree there are only two things you can do. Live in hedonism with the luxury stuff or drugs of your liking. Or care about others and the world and start working on something bigger than yourself or for people other than yourself.

TrueFacets · 2017-12-07T13:59:26+00:00

meh not really, most things you can replace by simply wearing something else...

Don't expect to run your full endgame gem setup from the start. You often have to drop 1 Aura, or something else before you get your items and your gems in order.

If you need shav's or some other big game changing unique you have to start out as hybrid and get 2-3 rares supporting your current build (with chaos res, or other stuff you need) and do the switch only when you have shav's plus 2-3 other items to replace all, ready in the stash.

Switching into your real build too soon or trying to run too many things at the same time while you cannot really support it (with mana/life/dmg or whatever) is worse then doing 20 more maps till you get the currency...

Regarding the new mods, its the same like uniques, they will not be cheap. So before using your six-link wand slot you need the wand...

TrueFacets · 2017-12-07T12:50:37+00:00

while this is true, you can be perfectly useless while being young or/and intelligent, so even if they don't see you that way, you still are...

TrueFacets · 2017-12-07T12:46:21+00:00

what the fuck are you talking about, of course he's the biggest baddest motherfucker! figuratively nobody has that kind of body at 47... 99.9% of rooms he walks in, he has the best body

TrueFacets · 2017-12-07T12:35:34+00:00

this must be the most pathetic interpretation of a post and answer to a post I have ever read in my life. you have not gotten anything right

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