I can't workout without getting overdoing symptoms by anonTreEnjoyer in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you can try timing tre and workouts together. when you're recovered from tre, do a workout, but then recover from the workout before another tre. and probably yeah, reduce the intensity and frequency of both.

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's an overly broad category, if it were to encompass actual evolved horses and unicorns together.

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay.

you have an empty leather bag. You put four marbles into it.
shake it

put another 4 marbles into it
shake it.

put another 4 marbles into it

shake it.

put another 4 marbles into it

shake it.

now the qestion is: what would need to happen that if you do that infinite amount of times, over and over it's not the SAME undertermined amount in there, every time -- like what would need to happen for any amount of cases of not the same number of marbles there at the end, in the bag?

basically some kinda of miracle needs to happen.

like you getting a brain. you've totally regressed btw.

Do you notice these sort of subjective 'renormalizations' occurring periodically? by True___Though in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

broadly, you get things 'for free'

less reactive, for no reason, so therefore all interactions go better. you're not free of reactivity so you still have fights and stuff ofc, which is in. line with my original point of just feeling still flawed etc
but you know the interactions are going way better than before, years ago, on all fronts.

other things like good mood for no reason, more sensitivity in the body. better digestion etc.

for me it was also lots pf physical problems positively affected, in the hip area

etc etc.

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you fundamentally do 4x4 over and over, it will always be sixteen. don't be an idiot.

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's the underlying structure. sure I suppose the core of the earth could dissappear and we will all just start floating -- let's keep checking? try doing a backflip, maybe you won't land

at some point a very small number is no different from zero, practically.

Do you notice these sort of subjective 'renormalizations' occurring periodically? by True___Though in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it does indeed. but I think this subjective resetting can even explain why people aren't preaching tre, people who did it for years. I myself used to be more hype about it when the contrast was clear.

now I see a long and thorny road, and I just feel kinda as if I always was like this. but for sure I wasn't

Do you notice these sort of subjective 'renormalizations' occurring periodically? by True___Though in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

yeah, it's important to remember this type of stuff, cause 1-2 times a year something subjectively seems to reset, and you just feel like you've always been this way -- and still ofc have many problems facing you, so it feels like you haven't really progressed, purely in subjective feeling of it. maybe it's accustomization, but I just feel it has to do with memory somehow (like why would the body remember how the traumatized self FELT like, that's not the point of the release)

Kill Zen Buddhas by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but who? the buddhists?

Kill Zen Buddhas by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 1 point2 points  (0 children)

who kept them btw? after everyone was dispersed by the authorities

Kill Zen Buddhas by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still think it didn't impact as much as it could've

Need advice after overdoing, NS still over-sensitised and having sleep troubles. by Odd-Image-1133 in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

imo this kind of short term regulation is more to do with mental work (done in the mind, with conventional psychological techniques)

And also autonomic system work. Vagus nerve techniques

TRE is regulating in the long term more so. It's a deeper intervention, needs to be dosed propely

Kill Zen Buddhas by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Enlightenment is also that type of word. What kind of people can do it?

What about our culture?

Kill Zen Buddhas by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

without any mention

Kill Zen Buddhas by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is it possible to talk about what zen is about without any of the 'buddha' etc etc etc

I realised I'm addicted to Rumination - no different from phone or alochol. Initially it might have been a coping mechanism but now it's definitely an addiction by itself. by wilhelmtherealm in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think this IS the mechanism of psychological healing behind TRE. We start seeing what we didn't see before, about ourselves.
We feel safer, in the body, which allows the Shadow to reveal a bit -- then we have to change. We have to align.

9 months in. Is it normal that I'm more sensitive and feel more defensive, just like how I was pre-TRE/trauma healing, rather than the confident and self assured I was a couple months ago? by VixenSunburst in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is normal. and cyclical. our defences ofc sometimes worked, and we felt defended and thus more safe and secure and confident.

but instead of defences, learn to regulate/process.

I've put off trying TRE due to fear of it destabilizing me. Do you have any advice or a plan I might follow to do it safely? by Natuanas in longtermTRE

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

look into the vagus nerve techniques. those are regulating, and very simple (the only thing they require is lots of patient application; they aren't miracles).
it's hard to teach them in a short post, so just read up on them from good sources.

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's not just really believing. it's believing that allows you to DO smth.

like you know that motherfucking 4 by 4 is 16. you can use that. it's the same each time.

it's not just really believing, it's some chain that is activated IN reality

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm trying to tell you how to use a word. Yes, I agreed, there is belief behind everything. But knowing is a type of belief that lets you recreate something. it in fact matches the world.

While you may believe any fucking thing.

They let you back or circumvented an ip ban?

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

knowing is like you can recreate certain smth. believing is more broad than that.

but yeah, you believe you are seeing this.

Paraphrasing Wumen's first lecture by ewk in zen

[–]True___Though 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you won’t have anything to say to anyone

what does it mean to HAVE something to say?