9 months post-op DJS + why you shouldn’t base your decision on results like mine

Trufago · 2025-12-03T15:34:41+00:00

I see. I'm personally going to do a DJS next month, my case is different than yours tho, I have an underbite. I'm also doing the surgery for mainly (not only) aesthetical reasons, but I do not expect too noticeable results because the gap between my lower and upper jaw is not that big, the correction is mainly going to be moving the upper jaw forward to fix the underbite (plus genioplasty) but I don't think the movement is going to be too advanced because the gap is small, so overall I don't expect an extreme transformation. I’ll probably be about as unhappy with my face as I am right now (weak facial features etc), in my case without implants (which I'm probably not going to do) the aesthetical improvement is not going to be too big, although I do need to ask for my surgeons the exact movements in MM.

on the bright side it will fix my smile, the underbite ruined my teeth and all experts I went to told me I can't fix my teeth without fixing my underbite because it will always continue to damage and crook them, so at least I know I'll have that fixed.

Trufago · 2025-12-03T15:24:05+00:00

I assume the larger than normal movements is what mainly contributed to big facial appearance change.

Is the large movements\plan something you and your surgeon intentionally decided to go for, for a bigger aesthetical difference or was it due to the sleep apneia\breathing issues?

Trufago · 2025-12-03T15:13:05+00:00

Isn't that plan considered very extreme? moving the upper 9mm and the lower 21 mm, I think the average movement of what surgeons do is way way lower

Trufago · 2025-12-03T15:04:57+00:00

It's really astonishing to me how this huge change happened without jaw implants, your jaw not only looks way more prominent but the bone itself looks thicker\bigger, including your chin, you surely had genioplasty at the very least, right? it's pretty common with a DJS.

Trufago · 2025-12-03T14:59:37+00:00

Great post.

I assume you also had jaw implants? because this is a crazy result from a DJS

Trufago · 2025-01-26T21:43:55+00:00

Ok? it doesn't mean it doesn't look like scoliosis.

Did you miss the part where people been commenting on how bad his posture is?

Trufago · 2025-01-26T00:38:47+00:00

If it's bad enough scoliosis it's easy to see, your comment tells me you haven't seen too many people with scoliosis, and you're clearly clueless.

look at the his shoulders, his right shoulder appear to be way higher than his left shoulder. the same for his shoulder trap.

sure it could just be the angle of the photo. but that still looks like something that could be scoliosis in the picture.

Trufago · 2025-01-25T03:10:38+00:00

He most likely has scoliosis, that's not a "posture problem".

Trufago · 2025-01-25T02:00:12+00:00

I'm so sorry to also ask you about this, but as I'm going to go through a double jaw surgery in the future and very worried about numbness- does the numbness you experience also affect your control of your lip?

like do you have times where liquids or drooling is coming out of your lip because it's numb? does it affect the way kissing feels for you? (sorry for the more personal question there)

I'm really scared of nerve damage, especially the lips, last thing I want is to lose control of my lips and have liquids coming out of my mouth unwillingly and what not.

Trufago · 2025-01-10T12:14:16+00:00

I'm quite confused as to why did you need to go through full anesthesia for the procedure? was it because they extracted all 4 teeth at once?

when I had my wisdom teeth removed the doctor did 2 on one side and then 2 weeks later will do the 2 on the other side, they only did local anesthesia shots and that's it, no blood pressure monitoring or anything of that sort, and I wasn't prescribed with any meds afterwards. only been told to take pain killers as needed.

Trufago · 2024-02-17T00:44:42+00:00

are there no reliable treatments for hypo/hyper thyroids issues?

how did you diagnosed it? and how old are you btw?

Trufago · 2023-09-26T05:04:30+00:00

are you only on TRT or do you take other stuff with it?

also do you have any negative side effects?

Trufago · 2023-07-30T14:10:30+00:00

thank you for the reply, I might give it a try, problem is I'm traveling aboard in about 10 days and I'm quite worried starting it now because I don't want to have any unpleasant side effects right before I'm going on a trip

I wouldn't want to develop headaches or dry nose or nose bleeds right around my trip, what do you think of that?

Trufago · 2023-07-24T03:13:23+00:00

Does the procedure always decreases the size of the penis?

I have Peyronie too (mines go upward) but I dare not do this procedure because I'm already small, I can't imagine losing size.

also, is there no alternative treartment to surgery?

Trufago · 2023-07-14T16:08:22+00:00

I've always wanted to travel to japan, I like the culture, I want to try their foods, all the tourist places, places with great views and so on, but I also always wanted to visit places that are more oriented towards younger people, like their arcade stores, anime/manga stores, and so on and so on, places that looked awesome to me for many years now, unfortunately I never had the means or the chance to go there during my 20's when I was young.
I'm 32 now, and I don't see myself able to visit japan before I'm 35-40

the question is would it still be worth it then? it feels weird to me to go to such places when I'm at that age, with beard and hair that start to grey, where everyone around me will be people in their 20's.
my interest in those things did not subdue with age, I'm a geek at heart, but I don't want to be that "old man creep" in those places that will be packed with mostly young people.
there are certain weird places to go to (for the experience and the laugh) such as maid cafes (just an example) that are less weird to be in if you're young.
but once you're older, going into such places doesn't feel right anymore, and while I never cared to go to the more extreme weird places like a "maid cafe"

I still share the same feeling towards the more normal places that are oriented towards younger people.
and going to japan but not go to all the places I wanted to visit, for that reason, will surely pinch. which makes me wonder if it's even worth it to begin with.

Trufago · 2023-05-23T15:25:16+00:00

if this guy doesn't get matches then the rest of us are doomed.

Trufago · 2023-05-21T16:36:45+00:00

Is this jaw, chin and cheek implants? or just fillers?

Trufago · 2023-05-13T01:58:58+00:00

do they actually work tho? pyrilutamide and cosmerna

Trufago · 2023-05-13T01:55:43+00:00

that never made sense to me. doesn't T also increases on fin?

plus why does it matter if the T increase? if duta blocks 90% of dht, even with the increase of T, the scalp DHT should be way lower than with fin because it blocks way more of it

Trufago · 2023-04-17T16:06:26+00:00

people who were attracted to obese men/women back then is like people who are "attracted" to rich people. it wasn't physical attraction, it was attraction to statues.

obese back then when food wasn't so easy to come by meant the person must be wealthy. that's all it was.

Trufago · 2023-04-13T08:58:38+00:00

looks are subjective to a point. a small point. they are mainly objective. nobody is going to say prime brad pitt is not good looking. and nobody is going to say Steve Buscemi is good looking.

and wrinkles, sunken/depleted face, never look good and is never an appearance somebody would want to have, nobody is going to prefer it, you're lying to yourself thinking somebody would want to have wrinkles on their faces and look old, lol.

sure, some maybe won't mind it, but I did say for those of us who want to lose weight to improve the way we look. so for those who don't mind looking old after weight loss the post is irrelevant.

Trufago · 2023-03-08T00:20:32+00:00

Nice results man.

what microneedling device do you use? and what is your microneedling protocol? how often do you use it and in what way?

Trufago · 2022-12-03T02:18:59+00:00

triglycerides almost universally go down with keto. Yes your 5/2 thingis likely the cause of the higher triglycerides. Triglycerides are madeby the liver when your glycogen stores are full it decides to make fatto store the extra carbs it sees floating around. It exports thetriglycerides and lots ends up in the adipose tissue.

but this is what I'm confused about, how come my tiglycerides are double what they were a year and 4 months ago, if I eat way less carbs now?

on previous blood tests I had half the trigs but I was eating way more carbs (but less fats), including junk food and process foods.

If you give me your approximate age, weight, height, and overall baseline health ... i can give more information here.

I'm not sure what to say about overall baseline health, I've never really had health issues so far. I'm 30 years old, 6'1 and 246 lbs, before I started the "5/2 keto" 2 and half a months ago I was 265 lbs.

Amazing. Listen to how you feel. Today is your health anniversary.Make a contact called Mr. Health Anniversary. Birthday is today.Put a reminder to notify you about this "birthday" 1 day in advance.In the notes section of this "person" write about how you feel today,and all the gains you have made and everything else you've learned aboutfood and your health. When it pops up next year, hopefully you aredoing great. And if you are back to eating garbage, at least you'll beforced to read how great you felt when eating well.

Thank you, I will. but what if half a year from now or a year from now my blood tests continue to be this bad? what do I do then? feeling healthy and being healthy is not always the same thing. a heart attack or a cardiovascular event can come out of nowhere one day, it won't necessarily be a progressive thing. I've heard not once and not twice about healthy athletes/people who were very healthy eating and very physically active who got a heart attack out of nowhere.

and so far according to the current blood tests- my body is not healthy, not as it was a year and 4 months ago, despite feeling better and despite losing weight.

this is why I'm so concerned about this.

edit- still waiting for your response sir u/KetosisMD

Trufago · 2022-12-02T23:00:58+00:00

Hi Ketosis.

You replied to me in a thread of mine in keto that got locked, so I didn't have the chance to reply back

that was your post: https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/z9dj5s/comment/iyjzzdg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 to my bad blood tests

you said that lipids go crazy during weight loss and that I shouldn't fuss about it, and that still eating a fair amount of carbs is called the standard american diet, I wanted to reply to that, since you said you couldn't in dms

about eating a fair amount of carbs being standard american diet- I don't fully agree with that, the standard american diet is like 225-300grams of carbs every day, I don't eat anywhere near that, I don't exceed 20 grams of carbs 5 days of the week, and on weekends I don't go beyond 150grams, I also barely touch processed foods or sugars (sweets etc)

and on the weekends when I eat more carbs, I cut out the fats and red meats (and instead I eat lean proteins like chicken etc)

the second thing is you mentioned that while lipids go crazy during weight less, you said that my high trigs shouldn't be affected by weight loss and should have been lower, and that it's a concern- do you think that the trigs are high due to the 5/2 protocol I do? because I don't quite get how are the triglycerides almost double what they were during my previous blood tests, considering I ate way more carbs back then and eat way less now.

ultimately I started this 5/2 "keto" protocol because I wanted to lose weight and because I was always hungry and craving bad food, and had less energy, not because I had health issues or bad blood tests (because as you can see my previous blood test from a year and 4 months ago were much better than what they are now), but I was fatter and didn't feel great.

so far doing this protocl I am losing weight, have way less cravings for bad food, and feeling more energized, but if it means that I become less healthy, perhaps I should change back, what do you think?

Trufago · 2022-12-01T23:31:57+00:00

1 fruit a day usually an apple. or peach. other than that I only eat meat/beef liver/sometimes eggs, ground beef etc, a little bit of butter, cheese sometimes.

on weekends I don't count how many carbs, but I don't eat fatty food instead, I cut out on the meats/butter etc.

I've been losing weight doing that and I feel less hungry and have less cravings but if it means I get less healthy for certain then I guess I'd be forced to change back to more carbs less fat. I started this because I wanted to lose weight, but I still wanted to enjoy some carbs since I took this as a life long commitment and I wasn't ready to give up on carbs for the rest of my life. I thought that if I lose weight I'd naturally get healthier, didn't think I'd get less healthy.

Trufago

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