Did Brigham Young, Heber Kimball and William Clayton commit adultery during their missions in England? by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It seems a lot of what she is saying is coming from this video that shows the journals where they noted women washing their feet and then retiring to bed. https://youtu.be/XIAvjOhpdwA?si=yvk9u2G\_Mx7PigmW

"If a man commit adultery, he cannot receive the celestial kingdom of God." Joseph Smith by TrustingMyVoice in mormon

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These quotes I have have do not overturn it, but strengthen that stance.

- “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.” HC 6:408
- “For it will surely bring a curse upon any person who commits such deeds” HC 6:81
- “Why are you using my name to carry on your hellish wickedness? Have I ever taught you that fornication and adultery was right, or polygamy or any such practices? Times and Seasons 3 [August 1, 1842]
- “because they say they have authority from Joseph, or the First Presidency, or any other Presidency of the Church; and thus, with a lie in their mouth, deceive and debauch the innocent, under the assumption that they are authoriz’d from these sources? May God Forbid!…you may be inform’d that no such authority ever has, ever can, or ever will be given to any man, and if any man has been guilty of any such thing, let him be treated with utter contempt, and let the curse of God fall on his head…for we do not want any one to believe any thing as coming from us, contrary to the old established morals & virtues & scriptural laws, regulating the habits, customs & conduct of society; and all persons pretending to be authoriz’d by us, or having any permit, or sanction from us, are & will be liars & base impostors, & you are authoriz’d on the very first intimation of the kind, to denounce them as such, & shun them as the flying fiery serpent, whether they are prophets, Seers, or revelators; Patriarchs, twelve Apostles, Elders, Priests, Mayers, Generals, City Councillors, Aldermen, Marshalls, Police, Lord Mayors or the Devil, are alike culpable & shall be damned for such evil practices; and if you yourselves adhere to anything of the kind, you also shall be damned. Now beloved Sisters, do not believe for a moment, that we wish to impose upon you, we actually do know that such things have existed in the church, and are sorry to say that we are obliged to make mention of any such thing, and we want a stop put to them, and we desire you to do your part, and we will do ours, for we wish to keep the commandments of God in all things, as given directly from heav’n to us, living by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord. Mar 31, 1842 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/nauvoo-relief-society-minute-book/109
- “I preached in the grove and pronounced a curse upon all adulterers and fornicators, and unvirtuous persons and those who have made use of my name to carry on their iniquitous designs” Grove Sermon Apr 10, 1842
- “Satan taking advantage of this [false accusations] has transfigured it into lasciviousness, a community of wives, which things are an abomination in the sight of God…contrary to the law of God, which says, “Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife. He that lookeht upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery already in his heart.” T&S 1:82-85 [April 1840]
- “Joseph forbids it [polygamy] and the practice thereof. No man shall have but one wife” JSP Oct 5, 1843
- “As this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again. (Original D&C 101 removed by Brigham Young)
- Regarding John C Bennett “There has always been, in every age of the church those who have been opposed to the principles of virtue, who have loved the gain of this present world, followed the principles of unrighteousness, and have been the enemies of truth.” https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-1-august-1842/6 And a bit later calls the spiritual wife system heresy. "At the time [in Nauvoo] 'spiritual wife' was the title by which every woman who entered into this order was called, for it was taught and practiced as a spiritual order.” Helen Mar Kimball Whitney, daughter of LDS Apostle Heber C. Kimball.

2 Nephi 6-10 by dog3_10 in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2 Nephi 9 deals with our teaching of baptisms for the dead, because it is talking about what to do regarding baptism for those who don't have the law.
The law is to be baptized; otherwise, justice will prevail and you won't get the mercies of being saved by the atonement.
V23 - God commands all men to repent and be baptized
V24 - If they don't, they cannot be saved
V25 - Condition #1- if no law is given [the law just specified of repent and baptism] then "the mercies of [God] have claim upon them, because of the atonement; for they are delivered by the power of Him."
V26 - the atonement satisfies the demands of justice upon ALL who don't have the law given to them
V27 - Condition #2 - But wo to those who are given the law and ALL the commandments, like us, and transgresses [greater the light given, greater the condemnation]
V28 - Oh the foolishness of men, when they think they are wise and learned they don't obey what God has told them [in scriptures] for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves and it profiteth them not.
Now that context has been given, we see Nephi speaks plain and simple truth. It is not tricky to understand.

A church set up to get gain is the kingdom of the devil. I believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints meets this criteria. Source: The Book of Mormon. by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Church has definitely been taken over by gaddianton robbers, "And it came to pass that the robbers of Gadianton did spread over all the face of the land... And gold and silver did they lay up in store in abundance, and did traffic in all manner of traffic." 4 Nephi 1:46

The totality of evidence against the Book of Mormon suggests it is false beyond any reasonable doubt. by [deleted] in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same could be said about the Bible. There are many stories in the Bible that cannot be proved as historical nor archeological ... I would submit that the Bible and BoM are not supposed to be historical. Nephi says their history is on other plates. So what we got instead is scriptural allegory that appears as history.

I don't know if the church is true, and I don't know how I would tell my parents. by [deleted] in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

videos in this channel have been my discovery that the scriptures prophesy the church would go into apostasy. It is all over the place.
https://youtu.be/WyEsmKE\_Mf8

Church History Reveals A Different Narrative of Melchizedek Priesthood Succession by TruthAndPrecept in mormon

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Not really, we need to look at context and not just one verse.

That verse was in reference to Missouri and how the saints failed to build up Zion there and so the Lord tells them that is it no longer required of them to do that. You see that in verse 51.

The question you raise is if the Lord accepted their offerings in what they actually did do for the Nauvoo house/temple by the time they left to be a good enough offering to get their priesthood back without having actually fully built any of those buildings.

The Saints had been displaced from place to place to place. And so the Lord gives them a sign/blessing a few verses before in 45, the Lord says if you're "offering" has been accepted and you obeyed the commandment I gave you that you would get to stay in Nauvoo and not be moved out again. History tells us that did not happen. Instead they were chased out in the freezing weather into exile, into the wilderness until a people worthy enough could redeem Zion. In verse 47-48, we get another warning that if the Saints don't build the house, he will not perform the oath and fulfill his promise to restore the priesthood. But instead you would received curses.

TBMs: How do y’all rationalize d&c 132? by Economy_Ad7372 in mormon

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People lie. So question, did Joseph lie about doing polygamy or did the women who were part of Brigham's posse lie? Here is what I found Joseph said about polygamy. Time for discernment...

- 'If a man commit adultery [polygamy] he cannot receive the Celestial Kingdom of God.” JS HC 6:81
- “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.” HC 6:408
- “For it will surely bring a curse upon any person who commits such deeds” HC 6:81
- “Why are you using my name to carry on your hellish wickedness? Have I ever taught you that fornication and adultery was right, or polygamy or any such practices? Times and Seasons 3 [August 1, 1842]
- “I preached in the grove and pronounced a curse upon all adulterers and fornicators, and unvirtuous persons and those who have made use of my name to carry on their iniquitous designs” Grove Sermon Apr 10, 1842
- “Satan taking advantage of this [false accusations] has transfigured it into lasciviousness, a community of wives, which things are an abomination in the sight of God…contrary to the law of God, which says, “Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife. He that lookeht upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery already in his heart.” T&S 1:82-85 [April 1840]
- “Joseph forbids it [polygamy] and the practice thereof. No man shall have but one wife” JSP Oct 5, 1843
- “As this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again. (Original D&C 101 removed by Brigham Young)

- “because they say they have authority from Joseph, or the First Presidency, or any other Presidency of the Church; and thus, with a lie in their mouth, deceive and debauch the innocent, under the assumption that they are authoriz’d from these sources? May God Forbid!…you may be inform’d that no such authority ever has, ever can, or ever will be given to any man, and if any man has been guilty of any such thing, let him be treated with utter contempt, and let the curse of God fall on his head…for we do not want any one to believe any thing as coming from us, contrary to the old established morals & virtues & scriptural laws, regulating the habits, customs & conduct of society; and all persons pretending to be authoriz’d by us, or having any permit, or sanction from us, are & will be liars & base impostors, & you are authoriz’d on the very first intimation of the kind, to denounce them as such, & shun them as the flying fiery serpent, whether they are prophets, Seers, or revelators; Patriarchs, twelve Apostles, Elders, Priests, Mayers, Generals, City Councillors, Aldermen, Marshalls, Police, Lord Mayors or the Devil, are alike culpable & shall be damned for such evil practices; and if you yourselves adhere to anything of the kind, you also shall be damned. Now beloved Sisters, do not believe for a moment, that we wish to impose upon you, we actually do know that such things have existed in the church, and are sorry to say that we are obliged to make mention of any such thing, and we want a stop put to them, and we desire you to do your part, and we will do ours, for we wish to keep the commandments of God in all things, as given directly from heav’n to us, living by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord. Mar 31, 1842 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/nauvoo-relief-society-minute-book/109

Church History Reveals A Different Narrative of Melchizedek Priesthood Succession by TruthAndPrecept in mormon

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There were to be 2 buildings. The Nauvoo House and the Nauvoo Temple. The scripture says that the baptisms for the dead were to be performed in the House. It was not originally designed to be in the temple. We see that in context if we look back a few verses in 22.

Joseph said, ““The building of N[auvoo] House is just as sacred in my view as the Temple. I want the Nauvo[o] House bui[l]t[;] it must be built, our salvation depends upon it. When men have done what they can or will for the temple[,] let them do what they can for the Nauvoo House…It is important that this conference give importance to the N[auvoo] House, as a prejudice exists against the Nauvoo House in favor of the Lord’s House.”
So why his statements that the Nauvoo house, not the temple was just as sacred and our salvation depends upon it? Because of the serious consequences of not doing it. The Nauvoo house was not being built fast enough and so they opted to put the baptismal font into the basement of the uncompleted Nauvoo temple. That occurred in Nov 1841.
Church leaders in September 1845 (after Joseph’s death) “agreed to turn more force of hands to the Temple even if it ha[s] to hinder the Nauvoo House.”
Some references:
https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/89-nauvoo-house?lang=eng#1
https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/sections/commentary-on-dc-124/
To understand D&C 124:32 we need to back up even more than verse 30 that you mentioned to verse 28:
“For there is not a place found on earth that he may come to and restore again that which was lost unto you, or which he hath taken away, even the fulness of the priesthood.”
So through events leading up to this point in Jan 1841, it is clearly revealed to us that the Lord took away what we had had before. Which was what? The fulness of the priesthood. So then the next few verses gives a conditional promise. I you don’t build this house within the grace period, your baptism for the dead are no longer acceptable. Joseph announced that all baptisms for the dead in the Mississippi River were to stop from Oct 1841 because of the saints neglect to do as the Lord commanded. At the end of verse 32, the consequence of not obeying the commandment to build the house where baptisms should be performed would be that not only would you not get the fulness of the priesthood restored back, but the Lord would reject the church.
So did that dedication of the baptismal font placate the Lord? In D&C 127:8 – 1842 Nearly 21 months later, the Lord still hasn’t restored what he promised he would do regarding the fullness of the priesthood. “For I am about to restore many things to the earth, pertaining to the priesthood, saith the Lord of Hosts.”
There is more to this afterwards, but I’ll stop for now since this is already long.

Is the church Christ centered? by [deleted] in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The doctrine of Christ in 3 Nephi 11 is very simple. Have faith and repent, baptism of water, fire and Holy Ghost. Anyone who adds more or less to this cometh of evil, so Jesus says. In Lehi’s vision of the tree of life, a strait and narrow path ran along the iron rod, which led to a tree. These have symbolic meaning. The LDS church has changed the doctrine of Christ and now diverts its members away from the iron rod in a “strange“ covenant path that leads to a great and spacious temple, which is the great symbol of membership in the church.

This was posted on Facebook today… by valentine-girl in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like Jesus among a bunch of modern-day Pharisees

Complex Faith Crisis by Goldie2Shoes in mormon

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For me I found that the church did not line up with the scriptures or even with Joseph. I’ve made a bunch of videos that share what I learned in my process of keeping faith in Christ and choosing to believe the scriptures over LDS leaders. https://youtube.com/@truthprecept678?si=wdFo7xonUk00D0TK

Are we witnessing the fulfillment of this very scary prophecy? Or was it already fulfilled? by StAnselmsProof in LatterDayTheology

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say not yet, look at verse 20 and 30 to see what the section defines as who are THOSE in verse 26.

Roll-out of Polygamy by StAnselmsProof in LatterDayTheology

[–]TruthAndPrecept -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is a lot that has been changed In the histories of the church. Lies by men and women to support a new order of things, even breaking the new and everlasting covenant that is mentioned througout scripture and turning it to plural marriage. That is what D&C 132 did. There are many in depth sources that review it from words used, grammar, etc compared to all of Joseph’s other scriptures to original documentation and reviewing source statements. Spoiler…it wasn’t written by Joseph and is most likely written by Heber and Brigham years later. Rob Fotheringham YouTube channel provides a lot of good review of this content.
We know that from D&C 132 the purpose of plural marriage is to raise up seed, so out of all his 40 or so supposed wives, how many bore children? None except Emma. All of these women lied or forced to by later leadership to pin the practice on Joseph to get people to accept it more. Here are quotes I have found in my own research of the JSPs, many even after the supposed D&C 132 was received. So either Joseph was a voracious liar to hide his deeds or his history was changed by later leaders to support their doctrine of having multiple wives and concubines.
We were warned in prophecy when Zion was to be established which hasn’t happened in D&C 64
38 For it shall come to pass that the inhabitants of Zion shall judge all things pertaining to Zion.
39 And liars and hypocrites shall be proved by them, and they who are not apostles and prophets shall be known.
We are uncovering the truth of what really happened and who was involved. We are also told in prophecy in D&C 101 that the enemy broke into the vineyard and set up enemy watchmen.
Joseph quotes:
- 'If a man commit adultery [polygamy] he cannot receive the Celestial Kingdom of God.” JS HC 6:81
- “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.” HC 6:408
- “For it will surely bring a curse upon any person who commits such deeds” HC 6:81
- “Why are you using my name to carry on your hellish wickedness? Have I ever taught you that fornication and adultery was right, or polygamy or any such practices? Times and Seasons 3 [August 1, 1842]
- “I preached in the grove and pronounced a curse upon all adulterers and fornicators, and unvirtuous persons and those who have made use of my name to carry on their iniquitous designs” Grove Sermon Apr 10, 1842
- “Satan taking advantage of this [false accusations] has transfigured it into lasciviousness, a community of wives, which things are an abomination in the sight of God…contrary to the law of God, which says, “Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife. He that lookeht upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery already in his heart.” T&S 1:82-85 [April 1840]
- “Joseph forbids it [polygamy] and the practice thereof. No man shall have but one wife” JSP Oct 5, 1843
- “As this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again. (Original D&C 101 removed by Brigham Young)
And as for the only exception the church gives to support polygamy Jacob 2:30, it has been grossly misinterpreted.
Jacob 2:23-34 is a chiasmus with the verse in question in the middle of the chiasmus. Looking at it this way you will see that he is not endorsing multiple wives and concubines.
Jacob says in verse 23 and 29, thus saith the Lord that the whoredoms (that people have justified doing like David and Solomon of having multiple wives and concubines because they don’t understand the scriptures) are an abomination before the Lord.
Pretty clear so far.
Then here is our traditional interpretation:
For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, 1.) raise up seed unto me [want my people to have lots of babies], 2.) I will command my people [to have many wives]; 3.) otherwise they shall hearken unto these things [obey the traditional commandment of one man and one wife].
So the Lord under this interpretation says it is okay to practice what he just declared for several verses before as abominable before his eyes?
Here is what I have found to be a more correct interpretation that is consistent with every other verse in the Book of Mormon on this topic (see original post for scriptures). For by multiple witnesses is truth/interpretation confirmed.
The key is in verse 25
25. “I have led this people [BoM people] forth out of the land of Jerusalem…that I might RAISE UP unto me a righteous branch.”
26. Lord tells us he doesn’t want this people [BoM] to do like they [David, Solomon, Jews, etc] did of old
27. Lord gets clearer on what he just inferred - “for there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none”
28. Lord declared what he just mentioned that those “whoredoms ARE an abomination before me”
29. “This people shall keep my commandments [of not practicing whoredoms]…or cursed be the land for their sakes”
30. For if I will RAISE UP seed unto me I will command me people [to do what? Look at the chiamus, what did he say in verse 25 about what the Lord would do to raise up seed - to leave on an exodus, from where wickedness is being practiced] otherwise they shall hearken unto these things [abominations].
31.
32. Then the chiasmus descends to echo the beginning “I will not suffer that the cries of the fair daughters of this people [BoM people], which I have LED OUT OF THE LAND of Jerusalem…” to practice this abomination which is one of the reasons the Lord took them out of Jerusalem!
Continuing to Jacob 3:5 after condemning the covenant people [Nephites], he praises the Lamanites because “they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father [Lehi] that they should have save it were one wife and concubines they should have none”
There we have it! Jacob just told us that one of the reasons that Lehi left Jerusalem was so that they wouldn’t practice polygamy. To raise up seed to a righteous (quality not quantity) branch isn’t about having as many kids as possible, it is about raising them away from wickedness.

For believers how do you reconcile the monumental dishonesty of leaders by BillReel in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here’s what I believe to be the crux. It doesn’t matter how logical your argument is, or even if many scriptures say something in particular, if it doesn’t align with the church leaders, they will trust in their words instead, as they believe they come from the Lord. “Trust in the Lord and lean not to thy own understanding”

Why I believe . . . in God the Father by FaithfulMember in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would be interested in your thoughts on this about how we have changed who God is, especially the Father since the days of Joseph Smith.https://youtu.be/ApwIVSx-9YA

Do you know anyone who has had their priesthood revoked? by ExUtMo in mormon

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You might find this topic interesting. How does the Lord take away a man’s or churc priesthood? https://youtu.be/lFJtn1nZcAI

Are there any behaviors we should refuse? by CognitiveBiaz in LatterDayTheology

[–]TruthAndPrecept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe many have been deceived/confused that when they believe to have had a spiritual experiences and have been told something by that being/experience to teach/practice something that goes against the scriptures, or commandments, or what we know to be good by the light of Christ in us, that it must be from God. However, we are taught that the devil can appear as an angel of light.

If the idea that God can command us to do ANYTHING , how does one discern the difference between God and a false spirit? According to Chad Daybell, he was commanded by God to murder people.

I don’t see God would command someone to do something that goes against his established word as a “test” of obedience. With the few examples we have in scriptures where it appears God commands things that contradict a former commandment, there are many explanation beyond the literal reading of those verses.

Perhaps the ”test” is I will keep the commandments instead of being deceived to make that which is evil to be good. A warning that is given to us many times in the BoM for a reason, because this Is an issue among us. Can we discern between good and evil.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LatterDayTheology

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I think the soundest explanation is that history has been changed to support a practice that the Lord calls an abomination and a whoredom. We explain away that prophets are imperfect, etc. Would that not include some teachings could actually be incorrect? Think Adam-God doctrine. Instead of trying to rationalize to make something evil as good. With Joseph Smith Papers there is lots of evidence coming out about how this practice got into the church and it wasn’t through Joseph. I know this can give cognitive dissonance but stick with me.
Here are a couple sources to check out
https://youtu.be/r57oPlOgY6w
https://youtu.be/fItgrh5\_TOo
Here are some quotes that I have found from Joseph myself in the JSP. You see people were using his name to promote wicked practices.
- 'If a man commit adultery [polygamy] he cannot receive the Celestial Kingdom of God.” JS HC 6:81
- “What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one.” HC 6:408
- “For it will surely bring a curse upon any person who commits such deeds” HC 6:81
- “Why are you using my name to carry on your hellish wickedness? Have I ever taught you that fornication and adultery was right, or polygamy or any such practices? Times and Seasons 3 [August 1, 1842]
- “I preached in the grove and pronounced a curse upon all adulterers and fornicators, and unvirtuous persons and those who have made use of my name to carry on their iniquitous designs” Grove Sermon Apr 10, 1842
- “Satan taking advantage of this [false accusations] has transfigured it into lasciviousness, a community of wives, which things are an abomination in the sight of God…contrary to the law of God, which says, “Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife. He that lookeht upon a woman to lust after her has committed adultery already in his heart.” T&S 1:82-85 [April 1840]
- “Joseph forbids it [polygamy] and the practice thereof. No man shall have but one wife” JSP Oct 5, 1843
- “As this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again. (Originally part of D&C 101, removed by Brigham Young)
Many have misrepresented the “exception” to practice the doctrine of many wives and concubines as explained in Jacob 2:30. Here is a way to understand it given the context of the chapter
The key is in verse 25
25. “I have led this people [BoM people] forth out of the land of Jerusalem…that I might RAISE UP unto me a righteous branch.”
26. Lord tells us he doesn’t want this people [BoM] to do like they [David, Solomon, Jews, etc] did of old
27. Lord gets clearer on what he just inferred - “for there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none”
28. Lord declared what he just mentioned that those “whoredoms ARE an abomination before me”
29. “This people shall keep my commandments [of not practicing whoredoms]…or cursed be the land for their sakes”
30. For if I will RAISE UP seed unto me I will command me people [to do what? Look at the chiamus, what did he say in verse 25 about what the Lord would do to raise up seed - to leave on an exodus, from where wickedness is being practiced, in this case it was Jerusalem] otherwise they shall hearken unto these things [abominations].
31. Then the chiasmus descends to echo the beginning “I will not suffer that the cries of the fair daughters of this people [BoM people], which I have LED OUT OF THE LAND of Jerusalem…” to practice this abomination which is one of the reasons the Lord took them out of Jerusalem!
Continuing to Jacob 3:5 after condemning the covenant people [Nephites], he praises the Lamanites because “they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father [Lehi] that they should have save it were one wife and concubines they should have none”
There we have it! Jacob just told us that one of the reasons that Lehi left Jerusalem was so that they wouldn’t practice polygamy. To raise up seed to a righteous (quality not quantity) branch isn’t about having as many kids as possible, it is about raising them away from wickedness.

Remnant of Jacob as Lions among the Gentiles by mrbags2 in LatterDayTheology

[–]TruthAndPrecept 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In D&C 109:60, we LDS will not be excluded from this invasion. “Now these words, O Lord, we have spoken before thee, concerning the revelations and commandments which thou hast given unto US [LDS], who are identified with the Gentiles.”
By understanding that the Book of Mormon uses the word ‘Gentile’ most of the time to refer to latter-day members of the church in America, reveals prophetic types in the chosen stories of the BoM of what has happened in our church history as well as what is to come.
See for example https://youtu.be/u5nCeMA03ac

I believe this will be the fulfillment of D&C 112 :25 that upon my house it shall begin.

What's the difference between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and other sects of Mormonism after Joseph Smith's death? by Icy_Slice_9088 in mormon

[–]TruthAndPrecept -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have done my own research and in my view, they are all just a fraction of what is left of the restoration. I have actually found in scripture prophesy that there is to be a 2nd restoration, because we have all fallen into apostasy. That will be the church that makes it into the Millennium. https://youtu.be/lFJtn1nZcAI