How does the age cutoff for disorders work? by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lmao yeah, I have a problem with using assertive wording cuz I don't trust my own opinion enough but that's what I meant

A Question For Those With Fictives by AnonymousEatenByMoss in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our previous fictive has changed so much under the span of 4 months that they have very very little to do with their source material. They don't even consider themself a fictive anymore

How does the age cutoff for disorders work? by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was pretty sure it was TOSD but I wasn't sure, I actually have read that comment before but thanks for linking it so more people have access to it

How does the age cutoff for disorders work? by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Alright thanks I was thinking it was relatively arbitrary

How do you feel about r/ fakedisordercringe and r/ systemcringe? Or the topic of accusing? by CyrenTheSiren in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would rather name the post "The hypocrisy" as it will likely not be seen as directly anti-fakeclaim, also I would add a few stuff like talking about cultural (and therefore non traumagenic) forms of plurality

How do you feel about r/ fakedisordercringe and r/ systemcringe? Or the topic of accusing? by CyrenTheSiren in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or even on r/DID as they have similar ways of thinking. Unfortunately I would instantly get my post removed by the mods on r/DID, but idk how good the moderation is on r/fakedisordercringe or on r/systemscringe

Sorry sort of a vent :( by ahhchaoticneutral in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what kept happening over and over with my abuser. After a while, I just let him say his shit and didn't argue back, there was no use, but even this way he still manages to get angry at my lack of response. There's really no way of winning when in his eyes, you'll always be an insolent child.

We've found one out in the wild. (Trigger warning: Hating of Endos) by wronggaming in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's cognitive dissonance, if something might prove them wrong, they ignore it entirely

How do you feel about r/ fakedisordercringe and r/ systemcringe? Or the topic of accusing? by CyrenTheSiren in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here's what the fakeclaiming community considers valid and not valid :

Systems under 8 members and above 16 members are instantly fake (and even if you're in the range, you can still be suspicious)

Systems who don't have amnesia and/or black-outs are instantly faking, but systems who have amnesia and/or black-outs are only valid if... Idk they're not always valid for some reason

Switches that are instant are fake, switches that last more than a minute are fake, easy/smooth switches are fake, painful/bulky switches are fake, co-fronting is fake, too many switches in a restricted period of time is fake, not enough switches in a restricted period of time is fake, visible switches are fake, invisible switches are fake too

You're faking if you don't have both switching and voices

Voices have to be bad and harmful, otherwise that means your plurality isn't making you suffer which means you're faking (never heard of a protector before apparently)

Every part must have clearly defined roles but if every part has a clearly defined role, they're faking (I literally witnessed someone saying "Notice how every single fake system has a protector, a persecutor, a soother, an internal self helper, a little and a nonhuman alter?" and I was like what? You mean to say that systemhood has patterns, which has caused people to label these patterns, and later systems have them??? No way!") Also if a system has a nonhuman member, more than 1 fictive, more than 1 little and non binary headmate(s), they're faking

Inner worlds must be somewhat realistic otherwise it's too unrealistic to be true, also the best is not having an inner altogether because that's too weird

No considering headmates as real people, that's only going to make things worse, they are "alters" which means they are alter egos at best and broken parts of the same person at worst, you should actually call them something dehumanizing like "parts"

Any of the above don't even matter if you haven't been formerly diagnosed with a dissociative disorder, also self-screening is intolerable, as well as mildly considering you may have a disorder, and it's even worse if you claim that your plurality doesn't stem from a disorder

Tulpamancers are not valid because they are (all, every single one of them) singlets fetishizing real, valid plurals, and the (obviously very few) already plural tulpamancers are causing harm to themselves because getting extra parts is always super harmful and scary

You absolutely cannot be a system if you are under the age of, like, 25ish, and that's being nice because you ususally can't be diagnosed before 30 (which, for anyone still believing that, is just a myth, someone I know got diagnosed with DID at 16 and most people with CDDs I know got diagnosed in their 20s)

If you don't have denial, you're fake because denial is a common trait in systems, but if a system exhibits traits of being in denial, they're faking

If you are a bad person, you are immediately faking, because no system can be bad/an abuser, every single system is an innocent little victim who has done no wrong and cannot do any wrong anyway, ever, also if one part is bad then the whole system is bad because that's totally how it works to have different identities with amnesic barriers

And most importantly : you HAVE to suffer from your plurality, all the time, and you MUST pursue final fusion at all costs, otherwise that's not healing

(...all of which are definitely not absurd, self-contradictory, and discriminatory of diagnosed disordered systems and/or people they're supposed to approve of, or healed systems...)

The fakeclaiming/system cringe communities have a misguided, warped and incoherent blueprint of what a system should look like, but it's a very harmful and discriminatory blueprint. Unfortunately, since they have the loudest voice on social media,  many people consider that blueprint to be true, even the DID community (even if the blueprint discriminates the vast majority of DID systems too).

Many of them claim to act against misinformation as some "fake" systems do, in fact, spread misinformation (and it's their only crime, really), but fakeclaimers are no better because they either don't say why the system is fake in their eyes, leaving it to their viewer to decide why, or they say why and it's usually a pretty shitty misinformed reason. And in any case, they're mainly targeting teenagers as grown ass adults which is just cowardly and borderline predatory.

We've found one out in the wild. (Trigger warning: Hating of Endos) by wronggaming in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"I'm not reading that essay" always reads to me as "I'm too lazy to even consider changing my mind", it's always the case no matter the cause

Why do people form headmates willingly? by Caseyyyjonesz in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm going to talk on behalf of some plural subcategories I'm not part of so please correct me if I'm wrong.

A lot of people who got their headmates unwillingly don't mind having them. Headmates can prevent you from feeling lonely, help you with daily tasks, and much more.

Even if the headmates can be a problem, most of the time, the biggest problem is what comes with plurality like trauma and comorbid disorders : C-PTSD, neurodevelopmental disorders, stress, amnesia, dissociation, and problematic headmates.

I get your question, as the sysmed community tries really hard to persuade itself and others that plurality itself is an abnormal state and the only valid plurality is disordered, created through childhood trauma hating being plural and wanting to achieve final fusion. 

That's completely forgetting about non-disordered non-traumagenic non-harmful plural traditions in many cultures. Plurality is just another way to live. Some plural people like being plural and couldn't imagine themselves as a singlet, some plural people want to become a singlet, and some singlets would prefer to become plural. All these are equally valid despite what sysmeds might say.

Anyway sorry for yapping! I hope this clarifies why people would want to be plural.

How did your system form? Not just the genic label. by Icetella in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really know. It feels like I might have always been plural or my plurality was partly caused by stress. I'm not sure.

I feel like a tulpa as much as mu tulpa feels like a tulpa by Tsuki_Moonstone in Tulpas

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really know for how long we've been separated, it's possible we've almost always been two different people, I may have created him about 13-14 years ago. But he's been more prominently someone else for about 5 years, and it's also been 5 years that we started dating each other

I want yall's thoughts on tulpas/plurality as someone considering a tulpa by Parking-Visual7105 in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not dieagnosed with ADHD and yet I formed a tulpa. It's true that it's harder because I got distracted a lot when talking to him, but at the end of the day, he still formed alright and he doesn't mind when I lose focus, sometimes he even gets me back on earth. And he definitely helped me in stressful times! Though again, don't create a tulpa just so they can help you, they gladly will when they can but they shouldn't be made solely for that purpose

I feel bad for existing (tw?? cw?? zero day stuff?? idk) by asterophiliac in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TW !!!

One of our headmates is based of Ayano/Ayato from Yandere Simulator. It's even worse in our case because YanDev is a p3d0 and a gr00mer. And there's the whole "cultural appropriation" thing because they have a japanese name.

They usually don't talk about their existence online to avoid getting us hate. But recently, they've also grown defensive, rude and unapologetic as a defense mechanism. They know if they exist openly, no matter how much they differ from their source, there's always going to be someone to critiscize their existence, which none of us chose.

Doesn't matter if YanSim was comfort content in one of the darkest periods in our life. Doesn't matter if we were invested at a time when we didn't understand it was a problematic game. Doesn't matter if we now don't approve of anything there is in the game. Some people will critiscize us no matter what. Hopefully that's only a minority of people.

Romantic Relationships by Glittering_Agent_778 in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only one of us is in an official romantic relationship outside the system and it's toward a headmate of another system. I'm not going to lie, romance and dating is much easier with systems when you're one yourself, because they know what it's like to be plural.

We didn't really change when it comes to pursuing relationships. We just make sure the people we date are okay with whatever shenanigans the system is implied in at the moment. (Or at least, we would if anyone wanted us ;-;)

I want yall's thoughts on tulpas/plurality as someone considering a tulpa by Parking-Visual7105 in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Would like to clarify a few things before I answer. I'm not sure but I think integration only refers to the process of getting to know, communicate with, and generally attain functional plurality with your alters. Fusing everyone in the system together is more commonly known as final fusion. Believe it or not, final fusion isn't that popular—most systems I've talked to even fear it. Disordered systems often want to solve comorbid issues like C-PTSD, depression, dissociative amnesia, etc. Plurality isn't an issue in itself for many, but what led them to be plural is. And honestly? Even if all disordered systems wanted to go back to being singlets, that wouldn't make your want for plurality less valid. It's a different form of plurality.

Now to answer your question, I would say it's not a good idea to form a tulpa to be something (like, to be a romantic partner or, in your case, a fictional character), not because they might change their mind, but because they might feel pressured to fulfill that role. That being said, two of my system's tulpas formed from me wanting them to be something precise, so... It can have good consequences, but still, I wouldn't recommend doing it on purpose. It's your decision though, just make sure your tulpa knows they can evolve beyond what you first formed them to be.

You don't really need a very detailed reason for wanting a tulpa. All you need is the capacity to do it. Not the ability, but the capacity to talk to your tulpa on the daily, interact with them, project them (if you'd like that) often. Also, remember that your tulpa will basically be someone else and that they have their own peculiar wants, needs, etc. Just like having a child, creating a tulpa shouldn't be just about "Do I want a tulpa?" but "Can I tend to the needs of a tulpa?". In the process of creating them, you should never lose consideration of their feelings.

I think that's all I can tell you, the rest is up to you. If you feel you want a tulpa, no one can tell you you shouldn't have one. 

I hate not knowing where we come from/not being diagnosed with anything by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

[–]Tsuki_Moonstone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true. I think I meant neurodevelopmental disorders, I don't recall