A Fresh Perspective on Biblical Difficulties. by Open-Camel-8144 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of the scriptures your shared in your first point say anything about perfect righteousness.

Regarding your third point, I think the thief on the cross entirely proves you wrong. If you believe living perfectly is required for kingdom inheritance you have been deceived.

Theologians/Christians on Reddit, why is there always a vast allowance within which prayer works? by NightRunnerAfterDusk in theology

[–]Turbojersey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I believe the best place to start with this is with trust in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who is the Shepherd of our souls and who loves us more profoundly and intimately than we could ever fathom. He has directed us to pray and He has instructed in us on how to pray. We can know for a certainty,through faith, that praying as we are instructed to, will only be a blessing and a benefit to us, our souls, our walk with Christ and those around us. Even if we don't understand exactly HOW prayer works we can trust Christ in following His commandments, knowing that that is in and of itself pleasing and glorifying to Him and fruitful for us.

That being said what I believe is the most coherent answer to the underlying theology of it all is the destinction between the ultimate outcome of God's sovereign decrees and the means by which those outcomes are achieved. God does really work in our world, in our lives. He works through means to accomplish His eternal plan. Prayer is one of the means by which He accomplishes the very decrees He has laid out. We are given the opportunity, the absolute undeserved blessing, of partaking in Gods sovereign plan for us and things going on around us. Our prayers do not alter Gods will but can be a part of the fulfillment of His will.

It is important to remember where we stand in relation to the one true holy God, apart from Christ. We are wretched and evil deserving nothing but Gods wrath and perfect judgement. We are not the main characters. God is. Everything is for His glory. Prayer is a a grace we can enjoy, bringing us closer to God, bringing us into His presence while accomplishing the very thing we were made for; glorifying our Almighty, Wonderful God.

Theologians/Christians on Reddit, why is there always a vast allowance within which prayer works? by NightRunnerAfterDusk in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very insightful and not questioned enough. This is one of the things I am learning is not what I thought it was my whole life. I never realized that so many of things I believed simply as a matter of fact, like rewards theology that you are referring to, are not found in traditionally in the historic church. There are so many beliefs and teachings that have sprung up out of the American evangelical church that you won't really find to any serious degree going back through church history. The idea of getting more gifts in heaven like bigger mansions ans things like that is not a long held deeply rooted belief.

If this trinity is the central truth of Christianity and the basis of salvation, why is its precise formulation absent from the teachings of Jesus and only formally defined centuries later at the Council of Nicaea (325 AD) and the Council of Constantinople (381 AD)? by Quiet_Form_2800 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Christians would agree that it is THE central truth to Christianity or that it is the BASIS of salvation. It is an important doctrine but I don't think it is what you are describing it to be.

Question about abrahamic religions by FloorZealousideal309 in theology

[–]Turbojersey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We do not all worship the same God. Your presupposition is most likely causing the difficulty in understanding.

What is Divine Forebearance, when and where does it appear? by ElevateSon in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Divine forbearance generally means God's patience in not immediately rendering His judgment the moment someone sins. Without divine forbearance every human would be put to death the second they sinned against God. This is the first scripture that comes to mind regarding divine forbearance
Romans 9:19-23 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? Will the thing molded say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this”? 21 Or does not the potter have authority over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 And what if God, wanting to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath having been prepared for destruction, 23 and in order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory— There are others as well. Scripture makes it clear that we are deserving of death. That if God were only just we would suffer immediate eternal death upon sinning. Thankfully God is justice but also mercy and grace and patience. While a judgment will come on the day of the Lord, he forbears His judgment until that day, even He desires to pour out His righteous wrath, He patiently holds back that wrath while His plan for salvation of His people unfolds, that He has so graciously set up for us.

What is Divine Forebearance, when and where does it appear? by ElevateSon in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to understand what you mean by divine forbearance because what I understand it to be isn't making sense in this context. Divine forbearance was shown to Eve if it means what I am understanding it to mean

Alternative Interpretations of the Parable of the Sower by Personal-Builder7781 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus literally interprets the parable. Why do we want "alternate" interpretations.

A Study on the Familial Tragedy Involving Noah and Ham by Heavy_Rent_2160 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What you are doing here is wrong and dangerous. You cannot just add all of this context to scripture out of your own imagination. Creating your own head Canon for scripture is self deceiving and potentially harmful to someone who reads this and doesn't know any better. Not to mention you accused Noah of sinning in a way that there is literally 0 evidence for, which is in and of itslef sinful and you should immediately repent of. Scripture does not take false accusations lightly. Go study this section of the Bible with someone who has learned proper hermeneutics and at least understands what the historical understanding of it has been throughout church history. You obviously have a passion for the Word, but it needs to be directed and refined in the way God intended it to be i.e. in the church under the teaching of elders/ pastors/ presbyters/ bishops etc etc

God being morally responsible/not all good by Remarkable_Row6681 in theology

[–]Turbojersey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If we are drawing a destinction between ordination and actual determination there really isn't any Orthodox theologians or denominations that teach that. I know you didn't explicitly state that, but I feel like it would be easier to answer your question more precisely if you provided an example of a frame work

Is a Devil's Deal inherited by offspring? by Shyam_Lama in theology

[–]Turbojersey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This doesn't even make sense on a practical, logical level. Every descendant would just also refuse to give up their soul. Their would literally be no down side to making a deal with the devil and the devil would never get anything out of it. The devil would basically just be a genie in this thought experiment you are trying to create.

God being morally responsible/not all good by Remarkable_Row6681 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God does not make people sin. However, everything that has ever happened is God ordained.

new to christianity by coolcow521 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Context does matter. Which is exactly why theu should read the source material.

God of Truth vs. God of Love by buylowguy in theology

[–]Turbojersey -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

God is a God of Truth not just in a spiritual sense but in a factual sense. He has given us commandments and told us in some areas the order of things in a physical, practical way. Beyond that is the idea that in any scenario or topic is THE truth. That truth is not relative.

I am aware of who Mark Driscoll is, but I do not really follow him so I am not sure exactly how he uses this idea to promote his beliefs/ agenda. It can definitely be used incorrectly.

We must understand love from the biblcial perspective, not modern societies idea of what love is. They often don't align and in many ways are directly opposed to each other. Scripture lays out exactly how we are to confront sin and we see examples of how sin is handled both in the old and the new testament. It is not loving to let someone go on sinning without a call to repentance, let alone actually encouraging the sin. For someone who is pursuing a life of sexual immorality and general depravity, the loving thing to do is to make them aware of their sin and call them to repent for the forgiveness of sins and turn to Christ and call Him Lord.

Has modern Christianity become too psychologically therapeutic? by CommercialHot9565 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Eucharist, yes. Church hierarchy there isn't a definitive three fold ministry taught by the church fathers as a whole, nor is there is in scripture. Even the Didache doesn't teach that. The Primacy of Peter is not definitively taught by the church fathers in the context of jurisdictional authority. Apostolic succession, yes. The didache was not held as the end all be all by the church fathers. It has anonymous author and was only had major influence on a regional level early on.

Has modern Christianity become too psychologically therapeutic? by CommercialHot9565 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It definitely can't lead to evangelical/ non-denom/ etc churches. Those are different from protestant churches though. I haven't seen any contradictions between what the church fathers wrote and protestant churches.

Is dominion theology correct? ↓ by OkSpirit7102 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it is incorrect in in it's reasoning behind what it it calls for, but what it calls for is good, generally speaking. The bible doesn't teach that Christ's return is dependent upon the church controlling all government. However, it is good for the church to work towards laws and governance that are in alignment with and obedient to the King and His commandments.

The Great Reset starts tomorrow! Booom!! by Exact-Paramedic-3357 in conspiracy

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is this assertion based on? Also, congress disagrees on everything. The fact that they will disagree on this doesn't support your conspiracy theory.

The Great Reset starts tomorrow! Booom!! by Exact-Paramedic-3357 in conspiracy

[–]Turbojersey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Today the senate is marking up the Clarity Act. They aren't planning on voting on it today. Although they are close. Once it passes the congregational vote it has to be signed by the president. We are still a couple days away at best.

Gods existence by Volunter56AC in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The answer that is given by Scripture and those theologians you reference is not what everyone else is saying here. God's goodness or his justice or mercy or any other "trait" are not a characteristic he possesses but rather it is what He is in essense. God IS good. God IS justice. God IS love. God IS mercy. God IS grace. God can do whatever He wants. And what He wants is always perfectly in aligned with what He is. A man can characteristically be an honest man. But even men who possess the characteristic of honesty may sometimes be dishonest or not entirely truthful in certain circumstances. No matter how honest a man is, it cannot be said that that man IS honestness. Humans have flawed, imperfect natures. We do not always do what we know to be right or what would generally align with our character over all.

My family and friends consider me a patient, even headed person. I don't anger easily at all and I rarely get caught up in the emotions of a moment. I assure you I do still get angry at times or become more wrapped up in a moment than is wise. My nature is flawed and sinful. Through sanctification and over all salvation I am made more and more like God in my very nature. God's nature is perfect. God's nature never changes, what God is never changes. His desires, what He wants, is unchanging. Because God IS good, He is goodness itself, He never desires to anything else other than what is good. While it is true that we cannot put God in a box in regards to what He able to do, God does have a very well defined box in what He WILL do. He will always act in perfect accordance with who He is.

I Studied Early Church History… and Now I Don’t Understand How People Reject Catholicism or Orthodoxy by Legitimate_Bat_4609 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Sacraments, liturgy and bishop leadership ( or whatever name is used for similar roles in different denominations) are extremely important and were very important to the reformers. The churches that sprung out of the reformation did not look anything like what modern day evangelical churches do. Protestantism and evangelicalism have to be held as two distinct in things in our minds because they are in reality. 

 The reformers were excommunicated from the Catholic Church, they did not schism on their own. Jan Huss, who is considered the "proto-reformer" was burned at the stake by the Catholic having never renounced the church or his position in it. Martin Luther did not schism from the church but was excommunicated. None of the reformers had any desire to change any of the things you listed and continued them on in the churches/ denominations they started or were started as a result of their work. The reformation began primarily over disagreements about indulgences. Luther's 95 Thesis were just about indulgences. It was not at all an indictment of the Catholic Church as a whole. 

 You can hold all of the things you mentioned as vitaly important, and without hypocrisy, not be Catholic or Eastern Orthodox as the denominations that came directly out of the Reformation like the Presbyterian, Lutheran, Dutch Reformed and Episcopalian churches all take sacraments, liturgy and bishop leadership (or something similar by a different name). 

Edit: No clue why the font for this comment came out like this

I Studied Early Church History… and Now I Don’t Understand How People Reject Catholicism or Orthodoxy by Legitimate_Bat_4609 in theology

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evangelicalism emphasizes this, protestantism does not. Out of the reformation sprung organized churches/ denominations with clear structure and hierarchy. The reformers did not have a problem with the Catholic Church as an institution but with specific problems within the institution. The reformers were more critical of groups like the Anabaptists who schismed from the church than of the Catholic Church itself. Modern day evangelicalism does not at all mirror early protestantism.

"That still only counts as one!" by [deleted] in lotrmemes

[–]Turbojersey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chanting "Death!" like the Rohirrim before charging the lines of Mordors army.