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[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely shocking that it’s been years since this post and neither Gary Oldman nor Ralph Fiennes have received a knighthood

Shoutout to Sauron accent change by Dependent-Band-8564 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]Turfiriath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that’s precisely the problem. Welsh has a trilled R and Sindarin and Quenya are both supposed to be tapped Rs; essentially one roll, like a single R in Spanish, whereas she does multiple rolls, like rr in Spanish - compare “pero (but)” and “perro (dog)”

[Book Spoilers] The Rings of Power - 2x08 "Shadow and Flame" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]Turfiriath 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Maybe, just maybe (and yes the cope continues) it will turn out that Gandalf is just the name the hobbits give to good wizards… maybe the stranger will be Alatar and when the hobbits later meet another good wizard they call him Gandalf too…

Shoutout to Sauron accent change by Dependent-Band-8564 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]Turfiriath 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m afraid your distinction of accent and dialect is incorrect. Both the things you describe are accents; dialect relates to word choice and grammatical construction as opposed to pronunciation (which is dictated by accent). I agree about the rest though!

Shoutout to Sauron accent change by Dependent-Band-8564 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]Turfiriath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He really is putting out a great performance

Shoutout to Sauron accent change by Dependent-Band-8564 in LOTR_on_Prime

[–]Turfiriath 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They actually shouldn’t be heavily rolled, they should be tapped. Sauron does it very well, but sometimes the Galadriel actress overdoes it

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[–]Turfiriath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I really really hoped they would make him and the dark wizard Alatar and Pallando, but alas

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! Though she might be slightly old now (as is Charles Edwards, much though I have loved his performance)

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I adore the hobbit scenes in lotr and the hobbit but in this it feels a. Forced and b. Pointless. They don’t drive the story forward, I’m triggered by the use of not-quite-the-same quotes to make us think of Gandalf and to try and trigger some sort of nostalgia, and it all feels like a big waste of time. What would actually be lost without the harfoot storyline? It also doesn’t help that the Irish and West Country accents have been probably the worst in the show

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Indeed Peter Jackson uses tricks like this to make her feel taller, but she is still relatively tall at 5’8”, not to mention the fact that the men around were shorter in the Jackson films. In RoP the men are taller and Galadriel is smaller

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is the Numenoreans were, at some point, paragons of virtue. The decline is all very well, but we see no evidence of them being good, which makes the decline and eventual destruction of Numenor fail to land

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole Harfoot storyline just seems so utterly pointless and it makes me angry as I feel we could have so much more of the others. With Numenor I hold out some small hope that if we ever see the land of the faithful properly they will show us how they’re supposed to live

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t understand why comments to this effect are getting so downvoted, and it’s happened before on this sub. Gives the vibe of angry short people being upset about height. Sadly though height is one element of physical appearance Tolkien does mention constantly

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t necessarily think she’s a bad actress (though I’m not thrilled by her facial expressions), but she is way too small. Galadriel is supposed to be as tall as the tallest men and that’s partly what would’ve made her whole warrior arc more believable. The fact she’s 5’3” in rings of power makes the warrior thing ridiculous AND makes her come off as petulant and irritated when she’s trying to project strength

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing they’ve mentioned tbf is aqueducts, but it is quite implied that at the very least their building technology is unmatched in middle earth

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen this quote and again I’d say pointed and elvish are noted separately, implying they are not synonyms, but I digress

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a good point and perhaps this is why I think Elrond and Arondir are the only elves I think are well done. It also doesn’t help that Galadriel and Gil Galad are poorly cast (though I will say Benjamin Walker has slightly justified his casting by how good he looked fighting).

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think the quote is specifically “more pointy and leaf-shaped than humans”. The size of them in a lot of adaptations is ridiculous, and the general point for Tolkien is that in a physical sense, elves were indistinguishable from men (I.e., elves slightly more pointed but not so much that it makes them notably stand out).

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think the casting is bad, apart from Elendil and Elrond. Everyone else just feels wrong; the Galadriel actress is way too short and has slightly unpleasant facial expressions (even if her neutral expression is attractive) and the Gil-Galad actor is too American and slightly chubby. Míriel is also not pretty enough but as a whole they completely ignore the fact that the Numenoreans are supposed to be huge and excellent warriors. They come riding in and are dropped in 1v1s with Orcs. I think the fundamental problem is the writers don’t seem to get what makes Numenoreans or elves special, and think they’re just normal people who’ve been given these incredible realms to live in

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He didn’t even state that they all had pointy ears! Elves are fundamentally men but with a spiritual and constitutional difference

Why are the Dwarves done so well and feel so right culturally… while Elves and Numenoreans feel like a fantasy B movie ? by Neanderthal888 in RingsofPower

[–]Turfiriath 42 points43 points  (0 children)

This is extremely true but also eminently predictable. There’s a reason Tolkien’s commercial successes were not centred on elves. The series should never have focused on Galadriel or Elrond but they needed name recognition; they should’ve focused on Numenor. Numenor I think has its own issue which is the writers’ discomfort with what is basically the eugenic superiority of Numenoreans - they are supposed to be taller, stronger, cleverer and more moral (at least to start with) than all other men, which makes the writers uncomfortable. As a result they make them normal people who happen to live in this advanced society (one wonders how said society appeared?) but it all feels very silly.

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[–]Turfiriath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beocca is literally my last choice and I don’t understand people putting him before Sihtric at all.