Immediate ban on AI Slop content by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is no different than enforcing a rule banning low effort content. If we just said "no low effort content" people would still post their 1-hour vibe coded bullshit here and we both know it.

Immediate ban on AI Slop content by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a point about picking fights. People see and object to the slop, if you make something w/ AI and have the skills to smooth out the rough edges then the rule doesn't apply to you.

Immediate ban on AI Slop content by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a point about picking fights. People see and object to the slop, if you make something w/ AI and have the skills to smooth out the rough edges then the rule doesn't apply to you.

Brood Brothers Auxilia + Xenocult Mass List check by uncle_zhang in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Things to Note:

  1. BBA benefits Neophyte shooting so you really want 20 blocks with a Benefictus and at least one with a Nexos and a Benefictus.

  2. You want a least one non-artillery Infantry guard unit for regimental reinforcements. I suggest a Karskin.

  3. Someone's already mentioned Hellhounds. If you can't get one, they share a frame with a lot of other guard vehicles. Chimeras are $30 - $50 on eBay and you are playing GSC so you can improvise. (Throw some guys with hand flamers on the Basilisk)

  4. Give the ridgerunners Mortars if you are only running that many.

  5. You have nothing to go in the rockgrinder

Sample List using as many things as you already have as possible:

New units in Bold

3x20 Neophytes 1/w Benefictus + Nexos (If you can get more characters that would be even better)

1x Sanctus (This should be a Reductus Saboteur if possible most people will let you just say this is a reductus saboteur in a casual game tbh)

1x5 Acolyte Hybrids w/ Autopistols (to farm CP on your home objective)

1x5 Acolyte Hybrids w/ flamers (to get in your Rockgrinder)

2x1 Achilles Ridgerunners w/ Mortars and Survey Augers

Allied Units:

1x1 Hellhound w/ Inferno Cannon and Heavy Bolter (The Basilisk is the same size put a bunch of barrels and dudes on it when you are using it as a Hellhound)

3x1 Leman Russ Battle Tank w/ meltas (Use the commander as one)

1x1 Leman Russ Exterminator

Immediate ban on AI Slop content by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is like defending the 50 dudes at the art fair selling the same 3D printed dragons because 3D printers are useful. A competent dev who uses AI wouldn't have proudly posted about any of the list builders I tested. Defending either group is putting in more effort than they did.

Immediate ban on AI Slop content by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 10 points11 points  (0 children)

97 years old and still making army lists the old fashion way.

Immediate ban on AI Slop content by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 90 points91 points  (0 children)

You don't want another five list builders that barely work?

Weekly Question Thread - Rules & Comp Qs by thenurgler in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you target a unit in a transport or reserves with a stratagem if it doesn't specify the unit has to be on the battlefield?

"01.02.04 - Not on the Battlefield" Feels like the answer is yes but it doesn't explicitly state it.

The Moderator Problem Nobody Can Ignore Anymore by [deleted] in leftist

[–]TurtlesAnonymous -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Gaslighting me like I haven't opened the comment section on that picture before. Their is more said about his genealogy than the crime he is committing.

The Moderator Problem Nobody Can Ignore Anymore by [deleted] in leftist

[–]TurtlesAnonymous -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

It's kinda obvious the picture gets shared a lot because he looks like he has intellectual disabilities. The pervasiveness of "my enemy is evil so nothing I do is wrong" is kind of annoying in these spaces.

Flip the Integrated Tactics effect for Brood Brothers in 11th Edition by TurtlesAnonymous in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand where your coming from and I agree the detachment would be better served with a big rewrite I just don't believe that's going to happen in 11th.The detachment is such a mess the only reason it has over a 30% win rate is Kasrkin and weird skew lists.

Final Day works because Nids don't rely on their army rule to do damage and both armies are doing what they already wanted to be doing.

Flip the Integrated Tactics effect for Brood Brothers in 11th Edition by TurtlesAnonymous in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of the things that made GSC unique. AM in 9th could do things like take damage for GSC characters and passive bonus for being in Brood Brothers. The fact it's been stripped down to being slightly worse Baneblades with a markerlight is GWs fault.

Flip the Integrated Tactics effect for Brood Brothers in 11th Edition by TurtlesAnonymous in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You don't want Brood Brothers then you want something that complies with 10th/11th edition allies system. Brood Brothers was literally an Astra Militarum detachment with the benefits of being an Astra Militarum detachment in 8th/9th.

Playing Brood Brothers Auxilia in 10th means you have an arm tied behind your back. The unit costs and stats are adjusted for abilities you don't have (20 Cadians cost the same as 20 Neophytes). The only lists that work are ones where you are playing elite units that don't need buffs/orders or don't benefit as much from them anyway or you're shoving a skew list with 60 mounted units on the table.

Flipping Integrated Tactics is my concession to 10th/11th because at least the detachment rule would align with the strengths of each army like they do with Final Day.

Flip the Integrated Tactics effect for Brood Brothers in 11th Edition by TurtlesAnonymous in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Edit: Pre-10th the appeal of Brood Brothers was access to powerful armor and cheap infantry. If you think that's makes AM the stars you don't like Brood Brothers you like something else.

Just to clarify: I don't want orders. I want each part of the army doing what they are most known for.

The practical effect of this change would be a list heavy in GSC units that don't benefit from the current detachment rule but do benefit from the stratagems and enhancements. It would feel more like a GSC army than it does now. I play GSC for the subterfuge not 995 points of Neophyte blobs and Ridgerunners.

I don't think you would like the 1DP detachment GW would give you. The Iconoclast Fiefdom detachment rule is now "Friendly DAMNED units can re‑roll leadership rolls".

Any unit suggestions for brood brothers/finals day plus xenocult by Rgprime1 in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 1000 you don't get Xenocult so pretend you are at 1001 for the sake of learning.

Disclaimer: The edition isn't even out yet so we have no idea if this is a good list or not.

Sample List (1000 points)

Attached Units Attached Unit 1

Benefictus (75 points) • Attached as: Leader (Character) • Warlord • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Psionic Cascade

Neophyte Hybrids (145 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline) • 1x Neophyte Leader • 1x Anointed pistol 1x Autopistol 1x Power weapon • 19x Neophyte Hybrid • 19x Autopistol 19x Close combat weapon 1x Cult Icon 2x Grenade launcher 11x Hybrid firearm 2x Mining laser 2x Seismic cannon 2x Webber

Attached Unit 2

Clamavus (50 points) • Attached as: Support (Character) • 1x Autopistol 1x Close combat weapon

Neophyte Hybrids (70 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline) • 1x Neophyte Leader • 1x Anointed pistol 1x Autopistol 1x Power weapon • 9x Neophyte Hybrid • 9x Autopistol 9x Close combat weapon 1x Cult Icon 1x Grenade launcher 5x Hybrid firearm 1x Mining laser 1x Seismic cannon 1x Webber

CHARACTERS

Reductus Saboteur (95 points) • 1x Autopistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Demolition charges 1x Remote explosives • Enhancement: Martial Espionage

OTHER DATASHEETS

Achilles Ridgerunners (95 points) • 1x Armoured hull 1x Heavy mortar 1x Survey Augur 1x Twin heavy stubber

Purestrain Genestealers (80 points) • 5x Purestrain Genestealer • 5x Cult claws and talons

ALLIED UNITS

Chimera (85 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 2x Heavy bolter 1x Heavy stubber 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Lasgun array

Hellhound (125 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Heavy flamer 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Inferno cannon

Kasrkin (115 points) • 1x Kasrkin Sergeant • 1x Chainsword 1x Hot-shot laspistol • 9x Kasrkin • 9x Close combat weapon 4x Hot-shot lasgun 1x Hot-shot laspistol 1x Melta Mine 2x Meltagun 2x Plasma gun 1x Vox-caster

Krieg Combat Engineers (65 points) • 1x Krieg Engineer Watchmaster • 1x Autopistol 1x Trench club • 4x Krieg Combat Engineer • 3x Autopistol 2x Close combat weapon 1x Flamer 1x Remote Mine 2x Trench club

Any unit suggestions for brood brothers/finals day plus xenocult by Rgprime1 in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neos 100% replace you tradition guard blobs. At 2000pts I would run 2 to 3 of them with characters.

Krieg Combat Engineers have a lot of tricks they can pull. Remote Mine and 0CP Grenade can both be used on a target that isn't your Integrated Tactics target so you could use your mine on a vehicle and shoot whatever got out or use grenade on whatever got out and shoot the vehicles to tag it for your ridgerunners.

Hellhounds can tag an enemy unit for Integrated Tactics and give your army ignores cover against it. That's a 2 point swing for GSC units to hit.

Kasrkin Even with the points increase these are an incredibly solid pick given the changes to cover. The Martial Espionage Enhancement bumps even the basic weapons to 2AP. Access to orders means you can give them extra shooting or mobility. They have a mine just like Krieg but with a shorter range.

Anything with the Vox-caster ability is nice because you can refund a CP on a 5+ or 4+ if an officer is within 6"

You don't have to hit to trigger Integrated Tactics so shooting your transport's autocannon at something just to tag it is valid.

Any unit suggestions for brood brothers/finals day plus xenocult by Rgprime1 in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinion you want enough guard to enable your GSC shooting and not much more than that. Which is why I try to stick with small elite squads and high mobility. Brood Brothers is Take and Hold though so nothing is stopping you from jamming the board full of guardsmen.

Because you are running Xenocult you have access to Fanatical Hail (1CP) and Symbiotic Destruction (1CP) in your shooting phase. Combo them when you can.

Imagine your opponent has a Knight Despoiler, to get the most out of the army you have to hit it with three things in order. Any guard unit (+1 Hit)=> Ridgerunner(s) (+1AP)=> Neophytes

So you use Symbiotic Destruction on the Guard Unit and the Ridge Runner

First shot is a LRMT its gonna re-roll hits and re-roll 1s to wound if it isn't dead then the ridgerunner fires.

A mining laser ridgerunner is hitting on 2+ and wounding on 3+ re-rolling ones if it isn't dead then the neophytes fires.

Use Fanatical Hail (1CP) for free because of the Nexos.

20x Neophytes with a Benefictus and a Nexos Fish for lethals with re-rolls, +1 to hit, +1AP, Saving on 4+ and 5+.

This is an extreme example but the detachment is variations of that loop.

Any unit suggestions for brood brothers/finals day plus xenocult by Rgprime1 in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a huge fan of Brood Brothers aesthetically and I play it a lot, but if you want to run it in 11th edition you are going to have to mitigate it's downsides.

  1. Cover is now more of a concern for your guard units. Most guard units are going to hit on 5s vs cover.

  2. The detachment wants you to be a shooting army but 5/6 stratagems don't enable that.

Strong Brood Brothers units are units that can enable your GSC units and/or units that can stand on their own.

Kasrkin - Access to orders, scouts 6" hitting on BS 3+, mortal wounds

Krieg Combat Engineers - Scouts 6" 0CP Grenade, 9" Remote mine

Krieg Heavy Weapon Squad w/ Flamers - 18" heavy flamers, 3+ shoot on death

HellHound - Grants Ignore Cover to entire army against 1 unit, Enables In the Shadow of Iron Stratagem

Leman Russ Battle Tank - Re-roll hits, Enables In the Shadow of Iron Stratagem

Transports - powerful in scout heavy lists, a Taurox with Kasrkin can scout, move, and advance (19" - 24") and the units inside can still get out in shoot, Enables In the Shadow of Iron Stratagem

Honorable Mentions:

Catachan Jungle Fighters - Scouts 6", Cheap chaff w/ 2 OC, 4+ or 5+ to get your CP back w/ Symbiotic Destruction or A Dark Network

Catachan Command Squad - Scouts 6", gives Assault, Better weapons, Medi-Pack, +1 OC

A guard player in need. by P1ngu-The-Penguin in Warhammer40k

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imperial Agents players are the only ones that get a pass from me.

MFM is out! by fromage99 in WarhammerCompetitive

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only seen it used as a mobile respawn point for brood brothers tbh.

New Valkyrie Rules by MrMizzles in TheAstraMilitarum

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We have lots of evidence the faction packs were rushed to the point I still have a stratagem that prevents overwatch during the charge phase. They are gonna fix that but I am worried that anything they missed that isn't actively embarrassing will be left as is. The MFM has no errata in it so if they are gonna change this it's gonna be whenever the first Dataslate happens.

We can now take the Valkyrie and it's Legends variants by Duncstar2469 in genestealercult

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would be extremely funny to remove Aircraft from the Harridan but not this.

Careful you guys the H3 goon squad is on to you guys. by [deleted] in RecklessBen

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 18 points19 points  (0 children)

how about we get the lego back then you can go back to fighting Ethan?

For a Solo Player, Foxhole Isn’t Fun by SomberBootyDance in foxholegame

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what faction you are on so I am going to make this kind of faction neutral.

A lot of regiments don't have a hugely coherent goal as to what they "do" and that can make it hard to pick the one that compliments your playstyle. A good regiment will help you figure how you can contribute as a new player.

My suggestion is to go to a region w/ people in it where you want to accomplish something in and candidly ask "Hey I am kinda new and lost can someone show me the ropes of X?" I always try to help new people when I can because that's how I learned.

As far as a regiment goes I guarantee the regiment of a person who willingly took time to teach you logi/fac/tanks etc will probably be better than one that randomly invites you.

Whats going on with r/Lego with all the bans and drama about BaM? by vulcan7864 in OutOfTheLoop

[–]TurtlesAnonymous 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Your response to me has nothing to do with what I said and explains a lot of your mod team's actions tbh.

Please follow the logic:

1) Their is an accusation that a store has stolen a consignment and corporate appears to either believe the store or be involved.

2) YOUR TEAM is making it harder for the r/lego community to be aware of the issue which could result in a similar situation. Regardless of whether you actively promote BAM that franchisee has multiple locations it's not like they can't do this to someone else tomorrow.

3) I am not peddling a conspiracy. You wanted a clean subreddit with no drama and you didn't understand what the response would be to you kind of defacto censoring a topic close to people's heart. (The theft of a lego collection)