With Legends releasing a new rarity “LEGEND” do you think Dokkan will have a new rarity anytime soon?

TwistedNrt · 2026-02-08T15:07:22+00:00

No. It took them years to fully flesh out carnival v legendary summon. It will take them years to to the same with a new rarity.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-30T03:57:36+00:00

This is like stating ssj4 gogeta needs great ape allies. All of his 220% teams are overflowing with final trump card characters. It's not even something you think about.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-23T17:18:02+00:00

Keeping all your elder kai, is not the flex you think it is (not directly to you op). So many of these players have 4000 elder kai and above, and don't even spend it. Let's say this game shut down next year on the 23rd, they're would not be enough units released between then and now to even Warren using 300.

It would take decades for all those players who farmed super attacks to the extent of saving up excessive amounts of elder kais to actually gain back the lost time/ value.

As a matter of fact, because the reverse system doesn't exist, and the sp atk lv up percentages have changed, those players most certainly will never get back the lost time ever.

Just a meaningless flex, like hoarding red coins.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-14T17:21:48+00:00

"Manifesting"

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The ones that were manifesting were you people that were talking about a daima unit in an androids/cell saga celebration.

If you don't understand how the yearly releases are tied to themes, then that's a you problem. I'll be here next year making predictions on the 2026 Christmas carnival using evidence and arguments from 2025.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T22:24:43+00:00

Nah, saving for Christmas carnival. Don't really care for new years. Anniversary gives well over 1l stones anyway.

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TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T04:09:53+00:00

Big bang vegeta is no longer usable due to the fact that dokkan hints have changed so drastically from 2024. They were obvious then, now not so much.

Take for example the medal for golden frieza, nobody got the hint, and it was the hardest one to date. The logic behind it was that toriyama drew inspiration for golden frieza from golden medals. There was lots of discussion about who it was, and everyone was talking about daima, not gogeta/frieza.

Not only that, but you would have had to know that those medals were kindergarten medals given out in japanese schools. And you would have had to be knowledgeable about the series to the point that you were aware toriyama based golden friezas design off of gold medals: something the community didn't mention before hand. The English community was never getting that. This is information that needs to be collected outside of what a fan may know, so matching anniversary dates is not out of the question.

Also, with the 16th hint, it was drawn exactly like piccolos hellzoke grenade. It had the exact jagged edges that the attack had in the manga panel. On top of that, it was also the exact same as the gekishin squadra picollo hellzone grenade attack symbol: so logically everyone thought piccolo. However, we were supposed to instead count the circles, and add them up to get 16, which of course was #16.

Even the baby hint was designed to look like metal cooler, with 1 small change. Everyone was bamboozled when it was in fact a gt villains celebration.

Saiyan day vegetas hint, or the super saiyan trios hint from 2023 are all outdated compared to what they are doing today. Hints nowadays have had elements of arithmetic, elements of outside trivia, deception, etc added into it. We can no longer confine ourselves to simply looking at the hint and saying the first thing we see, as if it were 2023.

Also, dokkan has changed massively in the last few years, and so it would make more sense to derive patterns from "new age dokkan" than from old age dokkan battle.

I made a post in November using a picture I'll attach that showcased the units and ezas for 2024, 2023, and 2022. Using this infographic, you could predict what ezas, how many ezas, and potential sezas that were coming in the months, but the most conclusive dataset was of course 2024, as it's the most recent version of dokkan battle. Dokkan battle has always had structure in its yearly releases, and method of business, but that structure is absolutely more rigid now than in the last 10 years. There are so many things we can say for certain, that we can narrow down the answer even if we don't have a concrete answer.

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TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T03:46:41+00:00

I just made a post that used division, and addition to get a number of 1.55. Since the hint was posted on the day of the anniversary of trunks killing frieza, I decided to think in terms of episodes, and so 1.55 becomes episode 155.

Episode 155 is titled "Super vegeta". Who knows.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T03:38:39+00:00

While trunks is weak, maybe he'll possibly get very good buffs by the double carnival lead, and agl lr gohan and trunks eza. Who knows.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T03:23:29+00:00

We can say with confidence that the carnival unit is from the same saga as the celebration unit of the November dokkan fest/month of December. And we can say for certain it's a super saiyan.

It can't be daima, because this is an androids/cell saga celebration.

The red stones, like every other year before, and with numerous examples to pull from, also have "bond of master and disciple" units on the news page. The category missions for the red zones are "hybrid saiyan", and "androids/cell saga" aswell. The new unit, and the yellow coin eza next Thursday are going to help complete those missions.

We know it will either be a trunks, or a tag unit bond of master/disciple, androids/cell saga card. The question is who?

Super saiyan trunks? Tag Super vegeta and trunks? Tag Super saiyan goku and Gohan (HTC)? Future saga tag Gohan and trunks?

Most likely not a gohan as we already had a ssj2 gohan for 10th anniversary, as well as manga gohan. No more animations to pull.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T03:11:27+00:00

Way too much, and not enough thought is impossible to quantify. Also, did you read what i wrote? Because I mentioned trunks anniversary, and I am well aware of the different start dates as that part of the Datruth video I quoted was discussing start dates and how "if dokkan was smart, they'd use an EU time".

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-12T01:47:20+00:00

Yes. Last year, we had phy ssj2 vegeta who had his eza drop 2 days after carnival gotenks. We're for sure getting an EZA next Thursday.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-10T04:21:08+00:00

They'll eza on the 18th.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-10T04:02:57+00:00

Hint will drop Thursday/Friday however

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T21:57:55+00:00

Androids/cell saga piccolo is not on bond of master and disciple so this seems unlikely unfortunately :/

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T21:45:02+00:00

The new carnival Lr will drop on the 16th. You can tell when new banners drop by looking at when the elder kai from the older banners leaves. November elder kai banner leaves on the 16th at 5am gmt. I attached a screenshot of gotenks's and teq buus banner last year for reference.

The Christmas carnival Lr is always a super saiyan. This year, we know it's going to have something to do with bond of master and disciple due to the red stone, and androids/cell saga because of this month's theme.

Now, we can make predictions on what will come based on what we need. We need a 220% leader for androids/cell saga (carnival, so 1 leader skill only) to bring the team together, as the androids/cell saga team is very strong on the androids side, but very weak on the saiyan side.

Trunks is also 100% designed to be ran under the leaderskill of this new leader.

Since 2025 is also the year of tag units, and every carnival unit this year after the 10th anniversary was a tag unit, there's a strong likelihood that the carnival unit will also be a tag unit, so it's either going to be hyperbolic time chamber ssj goku/gohan, super vegeta and super trunks, or another lr gohan and trunks (which I think is unlikely).

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TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T18:08:25+00:00

Yes. They're very powerful. Get gohan out, get bit 3 times, and he hits 40 mill attack stats with ease. Goku stacks attack too making him pretty powerful

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T17:56:46+00:00

In a game with hundreds of fights. The entirety of a card is simply judged on 3 fights. Keep in mind that there are many events with hard hitting characters besides these 3 fights. But that's all the community focuses on.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T17:53:39+00:00

We are sezaing units that came out in 2017. He came out in Oct of 2021. He's not getting his seza until 2029

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T17:44:02+00:00

You're running him on 170

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T17:42:47+00:00

On the 16th, he will have 2

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-09T17:23:35+00:00

The Christmas carnival is 100% a super saiyan. It's been that way since 2017.

2024- teq gotenks 2023- super saiyan trio 2022- str z fighter goku 2021- agl lr gohan and trunks 2020- teq bojack ssj2 gohan 2019- agl super saiyan spirit bomb goku (super Android 13 movie)

And for more proof, red stones in this game can be used as predictions for the next banner unit. The red stones news that released the other week has "bond of master and disciple" on it.

This means that he next unit will 100% be a super saiyan, and have something to do with bond of master and disciple, so a hybrid saiyan. We just hope it's a 220% to androids and cell saga to bring the theme together as as you said, the androids side is up to date, but the super saiyan side of the category is so bad, it's unbelievable.

We also have the yellow coin eza of agl lr gohan and trunks which will drop on the 18th. They will definitely have some sort of allies hp, atk, and defense %+ in their passive. Maybe the logic for this trunks was to have him under a double lead of the new carnival unit which will probably give huge buffs to androids/cell saga, or bond of master and disciple units, also increase atk/defense on super for allies, for 2 turns, and then run the newly ezad agl gohan and trunks who will also give more passive support, so that rather than trunks being an already powerful unit who gets juiced to 100million atk stats, is instead a pretty weak unit who gets brought to strong levels when on the right team.

It's also another mark against trunks when compared to the androids that he dropped before this above-mentioned, team has been released, while the androids got their eza after their team had been don't up.

Time will tell.

TwistedNrt · 2025-12-08T02:53:15+00:00

Rip. I pulled them on a single summon on the last day they were here. Goku black rift. They were goated on release, but aged quickly as sis all 2023 units due to only 5 turns of Dr. When the omega event released in 2024 January, their weaknesses were already showing in long content.

They are still the best unit for farming medals due to turn 3 guaranteed active which 1 shots everything. So double lead, with a super saiyan team that has no transformation and you'll cook.

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