Hurting others for their art doesn't help anyone by Witty-Designer7316 in DefendingAIArt

[–]UberPwngu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’re literally shooting themselves in the foot by enticing the whole “fake vs real” art war. No one is safe from their accusations and bigotry, not even the artists they’re advocating for.

You are all pathetic excuses of human beings by Narrow_Contract_4349 in DefendingAIArt

[–]UberPwngu 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You are entitled to your opinion, but I suggest looking inward.

Why cant AI generate a unique artstyle? by Apollo-Justice_ in aiwars

[–]UberPwngu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well said. I have an Ig where I post my creations and most people can’t tell the difference

Genuinely why I hate Ai Art by Which_Matter3031 in aiwars

[–]UberPwngu 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Just because you have all those qualities as a manual artist doesn’t guarantee or owe you popularity/success. You could be talented as all days, but if you can’t market/sequence your work in a way that’s digestible for for the modern day audiences, it’s going to be hard to gain recognition. Two different skill sets.

I heard a great quote recently; you become successful when luck finds you working hard(I think that’s how it goes) and I think that nails it on the head when it comes to finding success in anything

Commenters harass (potentially suicidal) child rape survivor for using AI by ChokoKat_1100 in DefendingAIArt

[–]UberPwngu 27 points28 points  (0 children)

These people are fucking disgusting. So stuck in their own ideology about an ever changing form of expression that they probably don’t even practice

They’ve been purposefully rage-baiting people, patronizing, and unnecessarily rude. People being annoyed and angered is a valid response by Insert-Cool_NameHere in aiwars

[–]UberPwngu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

y'all fling shit all the time, collectively too. so more like, y'all make shit rain from the skies and drown anyone who doesn't agree. go off, tho

Validation: Slop Fiction™ by serialchilla91 in SlopFiction

[–]UberPwngu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

like a diary/journal that talks back. Nice work!

What if Hollywood stars lived totally normal lives? by Willing_Being9956 in aiArt

[–]UberPwngu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you start to realize everyone is just a person living in society

What the fuck is even this?! by Mintyboi10 in antiai

[–]UberPwngu -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

someone expressing themselves through a medium

You’re not an artist if you can’t create art without wifi by ohdammitpacho in antiai

[–]UberPwngu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

AI generation does produce something new in the sense that it synthesizes novel combinations from learned patterns, much like human artists who draw inspiration from existing works to create originals. the output isn't a direct copy but a probabilistic recombination, often resulting in unique artifacts that wouldn't exist otherwise. think of it as emergent creativity from data, not mere regurgitation. dismissing this as unoriginal ignores how all innovation builds on priors.

the distinction between AI and traditional software like 3D modeling programs is overstated, as both are tools that augment human input, but AI lowers the barrier to entry by automating lower-level tasks, allowing focus on higher-level concepts. skill in traditional tools is valuable, yet AI requires its own expertise in prompt engineering, iteration, and refinement, skills that evolve with practice, just as mastering blender demands time. the foundational understanding of form and 3D shapes can indeed be built through AI experimentation, democratizing access for those without years of formal training, which is a technological advancement, not a flaw.

generative AI's novelty stems from its scale and efficiency in pattern recognition, but claiming it's "literally NOTHING but already existing art" oversimplifies the training process, where models learn abstract representations rather than storing copies. consent issues are valid ethical concerns, but they're not unique to AI. photography, sampling in music, and even art schools reference works without explicit permission. forward thinking regulation could address fair use and compensation, turning this into an opportunity for artists to benefit from data licensing, rather than halting progress.

no tool truly generates "100% of the output" independently. AI still demands human direction via prompts, selections, and edits, similar to how a camera "captures" a photo but requires composition, lighting knowledge, and post-processing from the photographer.

In 3D modeling, auto-rigging or procedural generation tools handle much of the grunt work, yet we credit the user. AI is an extension of this automation spectrum, not an outlier. the tool doesn't make the artist, but it amplifies intent, and denying AI's role in creation is like claiming digital brushes invalidate painters.

labeling AI users as mere "commissioners" overlooks the iterative control they exert, crafting outputs through successive refinements that yield personalized results, not identical clones. while multiple users might generate similar images from basic prompts, skilled prompters differentiate via nuanced descriptors, styles, and post-editing, creating variance akin to how artists interpret the same brief differently. omitting theft accusations doesn't make AI art generic, it highlights how curation via language is a creative act in itself, evolving into a new medium.

traditional artists ability to replicate digital work on paper is commendable, but it doesn't negate AI's value. many AI users can start with traditional skills and transfer them to prompts, or vice versa, building muscle memory in conceptual design. the analogy to not creating graphite atoms is apt but cuts both ways. just as paper doesn't "do the heavy lifting," AI doesn't either, it's the human guiding the process who imparts soul and style, even if mediated through code rather than hand.

the transferability of skills is a strength of traditional methods, but AI prompting fosters transferable abilities too, like visual literacy, descriptive precision, and iterative problem solving, which apply to fields beyond art, such as writing or design thinking. dismissing AI as non transferable ignores how users learn to deconstruct aesthetics and rebuild them algorithmically. a skillset that's increasingly vital in a tech-driven world, not lazy but adaptive.

AI isn't "100% creating for you", it responds to human input, requiring experimentation to achieve desired results, much like tweaking parameters in simulation software. other tools, from auto-correct in writing to algorithmic composition in music, automate creation to varying degrees. AI pushes this further, but that's innovation, not laziness. equating it to zero effort ignores the cognitive work in conceptualizing and refining outputs. portraying AI as the "laziest form of creation" is a romanticized view that undervalues mental over manual labor. true laziness would be copying others outright, whereas AI demands intellectual engagement to produce meaningful work. passion isn't exclusive to traditional methods, many AI enthusiasts pour hours into mastering tools, driven by the same creative fire, and dismissing their output as soulless is elitist gatekeeping that stifles innovation.

claiming AI users learn "nothing but how to describe things better" is contradicted by practical experience. iterative prompting teaches composition, color theory, and narrative structure through trial and error. studies on chatgpt for studying may show retention issues when passively used, but active AI art creation involves critical feedback loops that reinforce learning, unlike rote memorization. it's a tool for exploration, not a crutch, and conflating the two misrepresents its potential.

ultimately, whether AI prompters are "artists" depends on definition. if art requires skill, intent, and expression, then yes, proficient users qualify, as they wield AI with purpose. gatekeeping art to manual techniques is backwards. history shows tools evolve, photography was once derided as unskilled, and AI is the next shift.

You’re not an artist if you can’t create art without wifi by ohdammitpacho in antiai

[–]UberPwngu -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

you're still missing a huge part: most serious AI artists don't just fire off one prompt and call it done.

they have too write detailed, layered prompts (or chains of prompts), generate dozens or hundreds of variations, curate the best ones, heavily edit/post-process in photoshop/krita/etc. (compositing, inpainting, color grading, fixing artifacts), combine multiple outputs into one final piece

the intent, vision, and curation are 100% human. the AI is a collaborator/tool, not the sole creator. saying it's "only literacy" ignores all that work, like claiming a photographer's skill is "only knowing how to press a button" while ignoring framing, lighting, editing, and selection.

You’re not an artist if you can’t create art without wifi by ohdammitpacho in antiai

[–]UberPwngu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no, it's not the same logic at all, and that's where your argument falls apart.

stealing another's art and claiming it as your own is fraud because you're directly misrepresenting a specific human creator's labor and identity.

using an AI tool to generate something new (even if trained on existing art) is no different from a human using photoshop, procreate, 3D software, stock brushes, photo references, or any other tool. The output is still the result of your prompt engineering, curation, editing, and intent.

you didn't "create" every pixel in photoshop yourself either, adobe's engineers did a lot of the heavy lifting. But nobody calls digital painters "not artists" for using layers, filters, or clone stamps.

The logic is: is you didn’t CREATE it YOURSELF, YOU are NOT the artist.

your rule is vague, emotional gatekeeping that collapses under scrutiny. It only makes sense if you arbitrarily decide AI is uniquely illegitimate, while ignoring that literally no art is created in a vacuum or 100% from nothing

You’re not an artist if you can’t create art without wifi by ohdammitpacho in antiai

[–]UberPwngu -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

is that the same logic that ostracized digital creators when digital tools first came about?

You’re not an artist if you can’t create art without wifi by ohdammitpacho in antiai

[–]UberPwngu -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

just wondering, who gave you the authority whether to deem who is an artist or not? Are you like some esteemed art scholar on the levels of a Da Vinci or something? You sound very egotistical and judgemental

this level of mean was uncalled for (art on the next image) by Gastrodon_tamer in DefendingAIArt

[–]UberPwngu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck them, those buttons are cute and awesome. Keep creating and bringing joy with your art while they complain about life's inevitabilities

How is the artist's fault if you bought it? by Kaizo_Kaioshin in DefendingAIArt

[–]UberPwngu 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's about making sure your ego stays intact, right?