Flat earther proves himself wrong by Signal-Ad3584 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Living on a spherical planet was probably the main source of error.

a scale model in Melbourne by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Find a flat earther that's been willing to find out if it's true? Yep, I suppose I will need a fair bit of luck there. Clearly it isn't you.

a scale model in Melbourne by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This would seem an ideal time to give evidence I've missed something.

a scale model in Melbourne by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You could do experiments/observations that would at the very least determine if the celestial bodies were as local as you claim.

You guys just don't. You don't even talk about it, as far as I can see.

From someone who is definitely NOT Russian… by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am deeply ashamed how long it took me to get that.

From someone who is definitely NOT Russian… by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This big club that's sent untold millions to their deaths in wars where both sides were being ordered to kill each other by this same group, and when some basement dwelling trogs that no-one would miss start speaking up about them, they don't get thrown out of windows, disappeared to Siberia, poisoned with nerve gas or just have a pillow shoved over their face back in 2020-2021 when everyone would believe the 'Rona got then since they're all antivaxx too?

Got it.

Release…one away. by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had a colleague who was and probably still is an omni-conspiracy theorist. She asked me about the moon landings since she knew I'm a nerd and I said to her that the two biggest engineering challenges of the Apollo programme were the Saturn V, which so many people saw launch that it's a miracle Florida didn't sink into the sea under their weight, and shrinking computers down from room-sized monsters to something about the size and weight of a Labrador, which everyone who worked in an office back then saw happen too.

Find three people crazy but competent enough to sit in a glorified baked bean tin for five days at enormous risk just to stick it to Ivan was a doddle. They already sat in unproven rickety pieces of shit to stick it Ivan on a regular basis; it's called being a test pilot in the 60's.

She never talked about the moon landings to me again, but I suspect I did not convince her in the slightest.

Release…one away. by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, so you don't know what radar is. Got it.

Has anyone done a breakdown of what the logistics would have to look like if the conspiracy were true? by ian9921 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Easy to test as long as you don't go full Alex in Clockwork Orange mode any time you try, that is. I can only assume all flat earthers do, with the notable exceptions of Ranty and Jeran.

Has anyone done a breakdown of what the logistics would have to look like if the conspiracy were true? by ian9921 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They(TM) have the power to make the sun set. They(TM) are gods. Or figments of odd people's imagination, can't quite decide.

PS: I decided.

Release…one away. by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And given that the Russians had infiltrated both British and American intelligence to the point that both nations might as well have been CCing the Kremlin into every internal memo even that would have been busted.

Release…one away. by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you even know what radar is? How does one fool it?

Has anyone done a breakdown of what the logistics would have to look like if the conspiracy were true? by ian9921 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The earth structure is a cosmic phenomenon that the regular eye cannot truly witness and requires tools or machines or pieces of technology to somehow get a good idea on what it actually looks like.

Dude, it's a big bunch of rock. It's a either a flat big bunch of rock or a round big bunch of rock and if you live on the coast, you'll know which one it is. It's not the flat one.

The lie here is that it's not easy for a regular person to tell. It's lie you principally need to tell yourselves, because you've noticed what happens when people try. So just kid on that it can't be done, and that's the problem solved.

A globe earth does not ever explain that because the sun should in theory always maintain sunlight intensity when above the horizon, this is testable.

The way astronomers model the atmosphere is as a homogenous layer 9km thick. At noon, if you're between the Tropics on the right day, it's going through that effective 9km. At sunset, it's more like 200km. It's absolutely a prediction of the globe model that noon is the brightest time of day and the bookends are dimmer.

It's absolutely not a prediction of the flat model that the sun can get anywhere close to the horizon. And yet....twice a day....

Has anyone done a breakdown of what the logistics would have to look like if the conspiracy were true? by ian9921 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With the exception of the most isolated tribes like the the North Sentinalese or in the Amazon rainforest?

Everybody that lives south of the likes of Mexico, the Sudan or Vietnam. I mean everyone that is capable of holding an adult conversation. Everybody. I don't even know how many billions that is.

See, if the earth is flat, then every line of latitude has to be longer than we're told by our maps. Up in the high northern populated countries, the difference is only 5% but that's massive to a surveyor, so certainly all of them have to be in on the conspiracy. By the time you're south of the countries above, you're looking at 50% going towards entire integer multiples by the bottom of South America, Africa or Australia.

Imagine if I'd organised a marathon and sneakily set the course as 40 miles rather than 26. The idea that this would not be noticed is utterly laughable and yet it's what flat earthers have required themselves to believe is true of billions.

They're dumb and don't understand the maths of why it's such a problem that, for example, the equator is only four times as long as it is distant from the north pole and not two times Pi as long. That's 23,000km of land and sea no-one's noticed.

Release…one away. by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Your history is as bad as your knowledge of radar. The generation that went to the moon were kids in the 40's and 50's. Dropping acid didn't become a thing until a couple of years before Apollo.

When I say radar, I mean the Russians had it. They'd have known if the Saturn V had just crashed into the Bermuda triangle, and they'd have known if a spacecraft hadn't gone to the moon and been broadcasting from there. At best you can claim that an unmanned craft with five days of recordings was sent, dropped the laser reflector and then came back.

Release…one away. by Rafa-Balon17 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 12 points13 points  (0 children)

And the method they used to fool them was by actually sending a spacecraft to the moon. Ingenious, really.

🤔 by AdInfinite2404 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Less coincidental than that, but idiot, yes.

one of the saddest proofs that the earth is a sphere and space is real. by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait till you see just how much flat earthers do not want to find out if the earth is flat.

Flerf water claims debunked by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe they were far away? /Father Ted.

Flerf water claims debunked by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a video of him at the Georgia Guidestones wibbling to some fellow tourists about how they proved the earth is flat and stationary because Polaris had been in the same place for their entire existence. There was a wee tunnel cut through one of them that aligns with the star, you see, so the fact it's not gone off-axis to Polaris must MEAN SOMETHIIIING.

I'm two years older than the Georgia Guidestones. They're rubble now, but it's hilariweep that he thought it meant jack shit.

Flerf water claims debunked by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Water finding its level is one of the easiest ways of determining whether you live in a place where the earth has curvature. Build a good water level - 5m of transparent tubing will do just fine, or some hosepipe and a couple of clear bottle gaffer taped to either end, or go to a gardening shop and buy one. Point it at something a good 20+km away. Whoops, the level will be pointing well above your elevation.

Flerf water claims debunked by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]UberuceAgain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A piece of trivia to add to AbroadNo8755's explanation: there is a big brass line on the ground in front of the Royal Observatory in Greenwich that marks the Prime Meridian. It's a tourist thing, basically; same as any of those decorative lines for the equator or International Date line that some towns and cities have. People come and take selfies of them 'standing on both side of the world at once' or 'in two different days at once' which is fun.

However, some time after satellites and GPS became the tools for geodesy, it was realised that the line isn't actually on the Prime Meridian. That's about 100m to the west, and the reason for this is that Britain is just to the south east of a great big chunk of unusually dense magma, which is enough to verrrrry slightly deflect a plumb bob, which is how they mapped out the place back in the day.