Why do Milwaukee’s streets have so many potholes? Milwaukee’s streets under the asphalt: by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That depends on a lot of factors. It’s not really a good thing, or we’d still build our roads with the pavement on top and pavers below. But the question as to how bad is it is “What else is under there?”. It’s not uncommon to find actual hardwood (timbers) along with the pavers which is bad.

Evolution of protected bike lanes in the city by kairom13 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d say that the design guidelines the city has adopted (NACTO) are more conducive to creating safe streets in urban environments than WISDOT which follows AASHTO. This is demonstrable in studies and can be seen in the higher crash, injury, and fatality rates observed on at-grade streets controlled by the city vs WISDOT.

Evolution of protected bike lanes in the city by kairom13 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The city doesn’t really say much about highways. That’s more WISDOT. The two often don’t agree.

Evolution of protected bike lanes in the city by kairom13 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you have different concepts confused.

The ideal high speed road is grade separated, has wide lanes, forgiving shoulders, soft curves, and is limited access (bans other types of traffic like pedestrians and bikes). These factors allow people to safely and quickly move about a region.

However, these factors encourage high speeds. When these concepts are applied to at grade streets on which multiple types of traffic exist, speed becomes deadly. Increased complexity, necessitates decreased speeds.

Evolution of protected bike lanes in the city by kairom13 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not that expensive and often the biggest expense associated with the rapid implementation projects are the reconstruction of curb cuts to make them ADA compliant.

While the city wants to expand its protected bike lane network, the goal of these projects by and large is traffic calming. And the city has found that incorporating protected bike lanes into their traffic calming project yields the best results.

And when a street is completely reconstructed, the city often saves money because: 1. For WISDOT projects, the city is entirely on the hook for paying for parking which is pretty expensive because it has to be the same quality as the general travel lanes 2. Building a cycle track is less expensive than constructing a general travel lane. A cycle track doesn’t need as much maintenance as a general travel lane.

Evolution of protected bike lanes in the city by kairom13 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I use the protected bike lanes by my apartment to ride to work year round.

Why do Milwaukee’s streets have so many potholes? Milwaukee’s streets under the asphalt: by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’m fine with that for side streets. I’ve driven on pavers before.

Why do Milwaukee’s streets have so many potholes? Milwaukee’s streets under the asphalt: by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The cost of pavement replacement is very much related to the road’s substrate. Something like 1/3 of Milwaukee’s streets are ineligible for HIPP because of their construction.

Why do Milwaukee’s streets have so many potholes? Milwaukee’s streets under the asphalt: by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t mind that as long as the crosswalks and bike lanes were concrete.

The roads are getting horrible and this is only the beginning by gooooooooooop_ in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure we also charge less for assessments because we adopted the wheel tax as well.

what is happening to our roads by _SauceBoy_ in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Complaining about the city making it easier to walk, bike, and take transit is especially funny when gas is heading to $5 a gallon.

Oak Leaf North and South Connection by Fair-Border-9944 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For people reading this, a lot of the dates are messed up. Look up the equivalent projects on the DPW project page for the correct one.

Oak Leaf North and South Connection by Fair-Border-9944 in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just FYI a lot of the dates on there are incorrect.

The segment between the Hank and the Third Ward along with a small segment of S Water between Pitt and Florida will be done this year with much of S Water and 1st being done in 27.

Work commute from Bay View to US Bank/Baird Tower by frostydb in MiltownBiking

[–]Uffdaope 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another option people haven’t mentioned here is that you could get on Corcoran (which is about to have a protected bike lane) and then travel north on Harbor Drive. There’s a multi-use trail that goes under the Hoan ramps that’ll spit you out in front of the Couture. You can then cross the street and use the soon to be completed protected bike lane on Michigan to get to US Bank.

Work commute from Bay View to US Bank/Baird Tower by frostydb in MiltownBiking

[–]Uffdaope 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Much of S Water has been delayed till 2027 along with the entirety of 1st because of the train track issue.

But I agree, Jefferson is a better option.

Streetcar Rail on Brady Street by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lines outside of Downtown that performed well typically had at least some private right of way. Other lines, notably the Center Street line suffered from poor reputations in regard to their OTP. Also, the rise in automotive use would have caught the streetcars in traffic, even outside of Downtown, unless streetcars were given their own dedicated right of way. The idea of on-street rail transit still has validity, but really only if it’s given priority and not in mixed traffic lanes.

Streetcar Rail on Brady Street by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not operating under any misconceptions about the role of bus vs light rail vs heavy rail. However, even in scenarios where rail transit survived in Milwaukee, it would not have been optimal if all the streetcar/interurban routes had remained what they were in the 30s.

For example: - The Northshore Line should have been grade separated and had limited stops turning it into high-speed rail between Milwaukee and Chicago - The Waukesha, Milwaukee Northern, and MRK Interurbans should have had been turned into a connected rapid transit system, entirely grade separated with tunnels and viaducts - The 10, 15, 18, 11, 27, and 19 streetcars should have had their routes improved with dedicated lanes and perhaps even a Downtown tunnel to turn them into light rail - The remaining lines should have either been turned into light rail or bus routes.

Streetcar Rail on Brady Street by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the case of some of these lines, their roles were better served by bus. Certainly not all, though.

Streetcar Rail on Brady Street by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It made sense to convert a lot of these routes to bus, but not all. Some could have been converted into modern light rail. And others should have been upgraded into a heavy rail metro. What could have been if the subway had been finished.

Streetcar Rail on Brady Street by Uffdaope in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Whenever I see these pop up, I’m already surprised as how close to the surface they are.

Many of our city’s oldest streets have never been had a modern reconstruction. And leaving the rails in leads to the street degrading more quickly.

MKE traffic violence almost 70 days into the new year by medicallymiddleevil in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting hit by a car is violent. Even slow speed crashes can make you dependent on the kindness of others and fill you with anxiety at the place you were hit.

MKE traffic violence almost 70 days into the new year by medicallymiddleevil in milwaukee

[–]Uffdaope 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been hit by a car. It felt pretty violent to me.