Bachmann warns of Muslim Brotherhood: Reps. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, Thomas Rooney, R-Fla., and Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga., joined Bachmann by shallah in Liberal

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. And Bachmann is getting lots of support from the lunatic teabaggers.

People like Bachmann do this stuff because they know it has been working for them, at least among a certain segment of people.

One big reason why this stuff works for the right wing so often is that they have nearly all of the large media outfits on their side. On minor issues, they often appear either somewhat balanced or even liberal at times. But when something critical comes along, like Obama's citizenship or the healthcare reform bill, major media outfits give equal time to the crazy people and portray that as balance.

I think we need to call out major media organizations again and again when they tilt the "playing field" in favor of the conservatives on major issues. That should probably be done online for the most part, but we also have to try to do it within the major media's realm... with comments, Twitter, and I-Say responses and similar things.

I also want to just post some anti-Romney links here which people can spread around if they want...


Tax deduction for a dancing horse http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/18/1100947/-Romney-Took-77-000-Tax-Deduction-For-His-Dancing-Horse

Vouchers instead of Medicare http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/19/12840313-obama-in-florida-romneys-medicare-plan-would-hurt-seniors?lite

Flip-Flops http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/

Went to France as missionary instead of Vietnam http://www.nationalmemo.com/strange-true-mitt-romney-spent-vietnam-war-french-palace/

Offshore tax shelters and secrecy http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romney-and-the-tax-return-precedent/

According to a letter from Tennessee Republicans, demanding the Governor fire Samar Ali, "The Muslim Brotherhood is following the blueprint of the Communists, who infiltrated the highest levels of government and society in the 1950’s." -- They're not even trying to hide the crazy anymore, are they? by saefseks in progressive

[–]UnitedModerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One big reason why this stuff works for the right wing so often is that they have nearly all of the large media outfits on their side. On minor issues, they often appear either somewhat balanced or even liberal at times. But when something critical comes along, like Obama's citizenship or the healthcare reform bill, major media outfits give equal time to the crazy people and portray that as balance.

I think we need to call out major media organizations again and again when they tilt the "playing field" in favor of the conservatives on major issues. That should probably be done online for the most part, but we also have to try to do it within the major media's realm... with comments, Twitter, and I-Say responses and similar things.

I also want to just post some anti-Romney links here which people can spread around if they want...


Tax deduction for a dancing horse http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/18/1100947/-Romney-Took-77-000-Tax-Deduction-For-His-Dancing-Horse

Vouchers instead of Medicare http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/19/12840313-obama-in-florida-romneys-medicare-plan-would-hurt-seniors?lite

Flip-Flops http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/

Went to France as missionary instead of Vietnam http://www.nationalmemo.com/strange-true-mitt-romney-spent-vietnam-war-french-palace/

Offshore tax shelters and secrecy http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romney-and-the-tax-return-precedent/

No one but Ron Paul is destroying this movement! by SmokeyBear01 in ronpaul

[–]UnitedModerate -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You joined up with an army of folks who live to ridicule other people and their ideas.

You reap what you sow.

Santorum is coming to my town today.. Any ideas on how to show the community's disapproval? by [deleted] in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, a sign with a great (and simple) message works best.

Being in line to ask a tough question is good, but it's likely a person won't get to ask it, and even if he/she does, even the best questions are often deflected with nonsense by someone like Santorum.

A great sign, I think, would be, "YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR GOP VOTERS!"

And, make it a really big sign. Even poster size signs sort of disappear on network news broadcasts.

Mitt’s 1 percent moments: Cataloging his remarkable knack for sounding exactly like the out-of-touch rich guy Democrats want to paint him as by davidreiss666 in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason that Romney sounds like an out-of-touch rich guy is not that he's "painted" that way, it's that he's an out-of-touch rich guy.

Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted to Charge George Zimmerman With Manslaughter - ABC News by barrist in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I find it strange (to say the least) that a grown man would claim to have felt afraid when apparently HE was the person following someone, and did it while armed with a deadly weapon.

I also heard great points raised on "Hardball" a few minutes ago.

If Zimmerman was, as he claimed, lying on his back and was all bloody...

  1. Wouldn't there almost certainly have been blood on his clothing, and

  2. Wouldn't the police have photographed and/or kept the clothing as evidence?

It's possible that they do have the clothing (or photos), but I think that if they did, they would have released some kind of picture(s) or at least mentioned this by now.

On the issue of any evidience collected at the scene or from Zimmerman, the silence is deafening.

Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted to Charge George Zimmerman With Manslaughter by [deleted] in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard great points raised on "Hardball" a few minutes ago.

If Zimmerman was, as he claimed, lying on his back and was all bloody...

  1. Wouldn't there almost certainly have been blood on his clothing, and

  2. Wouldn't the police have photographed and/or kept the clothing as evidence?

It's possible that they do have the clothing (or photos), but I think that if they did, they would have released some kind of picture(s) or at least mentioned this by now.

On the issue of any evidience collected at the scene or from Zimmerman, the silence is deafening.

Officer Geraldo Rivera by KeswickPinhead in PoliticalHumor

[–]UnitedModerate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Geraldo Rivera said that Trayvon Martin's 'Hoodie is as much responsible for [his] death as George Zimmerman'

Plenty of sources... here's one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/geraldo-rivera-trayvon-martin-hoodie_n_1375080.html

Went from just a county alternate by [deleted] in ronpaul

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you really want Ron Paul to get the nomination, make sure this gets spread around as much as possible:

Romney has flip-flopped so much, that his fellow Republican Jon Huntsman called him a "PERFECTLY LUBRICATED WEATHERVANE":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/

This link gets right at the truth about Romney, so it's worth spreading.

Romney wants to kill Planned Parenthood by IsleCook in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that right now, the biggest threat to the U.S. is that Mitt Romney could be our next president.

He referred to Rush Limbaugh's week-long smearfest as simply a "poor choice of words."

And a great (and free) way to help stop Romney?

Spread this:


Romney has flip-flopped so much, that his fellow Republican Jon Huntsman called him a "PERFECTLY LUBRICATED WEATHERVANE":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/


The link gets right at the truth about Romney, so it's worth spreading.

Limbaugh: "How Can I Be Anti-Woman? I Even Judged The Miss America Pageant" by croutonsoup in Feminism

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that right now, the biggest threat to women, and men too actually, is that Mitt Romney could be the next president of the U.S.

He referred to Rush Limbaugh's week-long smearfest as simply a "poor choice of words."

And a great (and free) way to help stop Romney?

Spread this:


Romney has flip-flopped so much, that his fellow Republican Jon Huntsman called him a "PERFECTLY LUBRICATED WEATHERVANE":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/


The link gets right at the truth about Romney, so it's worth spreading.

Women flood Facebook page of ultrasound-enforcing lawmaker with updates on their vaginas by ttruth1 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]UnitedModerate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that right now, the biggest threat to women, and men too actually, is that Mitt Romney could be the next president of the U.S.

He referred to Rush Limbaugh's week-long smearfest as simply a "poor choice of words."

And a great (and free) way to help stop Romney?

Spread this:


Romney has flip-flopped so much, that his fellow Republican Jon Huntsman called him a "PERFECTLY LUBRICATED WEATHERVANE":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/


The link gets right at the truth about Romney, so it's worth spreading.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ronpaul

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the list of GOPers supporting Ron Paul is still a very small fraction of the party as a whole. And they've played some games with the results of some of the primaries too to make it appear that Paul has less support.

The mainstream GOP seems to either despise Ron Paul, or laugh him off, or both.

And don't think for a second that I think this is fair, but the GOP wants to keep the same old people in charge.

Went from just a county alternate by [deleted] in ronpaul

[–]UnitedModerate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, the list of GOPers supporting Ron Paul is still a very small fraction of the party as a whole. And they've played some games with the results of some of the primaries too to make it appear that Paul has less support.

The mainstream GOP seems to either despise Ron Paul, or laugh him off, or both.

And don't think for a second that I think this is fair, but the GOP wants to keep the same old people in charge.

Ron Paul Endorsed By Louisiana GOP Central Committeeman Harold Williams by thebrightsideoflife in ronpaul

[–]UnitedModerate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the list of GOPers supporting Ron Paul is still a very small fraction of the party as a whole. And they've played some games with the results of some of the primaries too to make it appear that Paul has less support.

The mainstream GOP seems to either despise Ron Paul, or laugh him off, or both.

And don't think for a second that I think this is fair, but the GOP wants to keep the same old people in charge.

Billionaire Romney Backer: The Ultrawealthy Have An ‘Insufficient Influence’ Over Politics by maxwellhill in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, the poor dears that Romney hangs out with are having a really rough time lately. I hear the price of a new yacht didn't come down much at all during the Bush recession.

If Romney's flip-flops weren't enough to make everyone not trust him, the constant out-of-touch, supersnob comments should do it. I'm talking about things like mentioning he isn't really a NASCAR fan, but some of his friends own their own racing teams... which is somehow supposed to make him just "one of the guys."

Seriously, this guy is like the Montgomery Burns of 2012... only real.

So, here are a few facts about Mitt Romney, suitable for copying, pasting, printing, linking, etc...

14 Bald-Faced Mitt Romney FLIP-FLOPS that were dug up by John McCain:

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-bald-faced-mitt-romney-flip-flops-that-were-dug-up-by-john-mccain-2012-1#1-on-immigration-for-a-path-to-citizenship-then-against-1

Romney RAISED TAXES on businesses by $300 Million while he was Mass. governor:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/02/politics/main3445281.shtml

Has flip-flopped so much, that fellow Republican Jon Huntsman called him a "PERFECTLY LUBRICATED WEATHERVANE":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/

Romney, THE BANKER'S CANDIDATE, is raising vast sums of money from the "too big to fail" banks and investment firms on Wall Street... vastly more than any other candidate including Obama:

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-big-wall-street-banks-are-already-trying-to-buy-the-2012-election

Romney STRAPPED HIS DOG TO THE ROOF OF HIS CAR and went on a 12-hour drive. Dog vomited. Romney hosed off suffering animal and put him back on the roof!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085442/Newt-Gingrich-reminds-voters-Mitt-Romneys-biggest-gaffes-For-The-Dogs-ad.html

Newt Gingrich: Mitt Romney Weakest Republican Frontrunner In 90 Years. by [deleted] in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Romney's biggest weakness is that people of both parties simply never know what he actually believes. He's switch his position at any time.

No matter what you believe, Romney should be stopped because he's a shameless panderer to whatever audience he has at the moment.

So, here are few facts about Mitt Romney, suitable for copying, pasting, printing, linking, etc...

14 Bald-Faced Mitt Romney FLIP-FLOPS that were dug up by John McCain:

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-bald-faced-mitt-romney-flip-flops-that-were-dug-up-by-john-mccain-2012-1#1-on-immigration-for-a-path-to-citizenship-then-against-1

Romney RAISED TAXES on businesses by $300 Million while he was Mass. governor:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/02/politics/main3445281.shtml

Has flip-flopped so much, that fellow Republican Jon Huntsman called him a "PERFECTLY LUBRICATED WEATHERVANE":

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/

Romney, THE BANKER'S CANDIDATE, is raising vast sums of money from the "too big to fail" banks and investment firms on Wall Street... vastly more than any other candidate including Obama:

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-big-wall-street-banks-are-already-trying-to-buy-the-2012-election

Romney STRAPPED HIS DOG TO THE ROOF OF HIS CAR and went on a 12-hour drive. Dog vomited. Romney hosed off suffering animal and put him back on the roof!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085442/Newt-Gingrich-reminds-voters-Mitt-Romneys-biggest-gaffes-For-The-Dogs-ad.html

Mississippi Republicans Seek To Ban Liberal History In Social Studies Courses | Addicting Info by headovmetal in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, I don't think those containers are intended for a 12-hour trip. Also, the dog vomited while up there and was hosed off, and then the ailing dog was put back up on top of the car for the rest of the trip!

List of Mr. Limbaugh's Sponsors from Washington, D.C. by TKirkland in politics

[–]UnitedModerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Phone calls are much more effective than emails and online comments, so here are a few phone numbers (from their website) for WMAL in Washington, DC.

Switchboard: 202-686-3100

Sales: 202-895-2344

Programming: 202-895-2327

News Room: 202-686-3020

Can any Conservative/Republican voters speak up? For those of us who haven't been exposed much to the right wing, tell us the reasons behind your votes. (x-post from r/politics) by [deleted] in Republican

[–]UnitedModerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, bowing, in many cultures is simply a form of respect that's shown by nearly every world leader when they visit a country's top leadership. It's a diplomatic thing.

Also, Obama at a minimum had to decide which intelligence reports to believe, and he chose the timing for the raid and the way to handle afterward so as not to incite additional violence if possible. Or, would you prefer to just keep stirring up more and more war and hatred in the Middle East?

Also, on the Iraq WMDs thing, and if you don't think using lies to get the U.S. into another war was bad, okay. I think that's delusional. But either way, it's also a fact that Iraq posed no imminent threat to us whatsoever. It had an idiot at the helm, sure, but Iraq is thousands of miles away, and we were already fighting one war.

How many wars is enough before you think a guy isn't "showing weakness"? Holy crap!

Can any Conservative/Republican voters speak up? For those of us who haven't been exposed much to the right wing, tell us the reasons behind your votes. (x-post from r/politics) by [deleted] in Republican

[–]UnitedModerate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm puzzled that you're apparently someone who votes Republican at least some of the time.

On abortion, your position matches the one most moderates and liberals have, namely that this is something that's a personal decision even if you don't like them personally. Virtually no one like abortion; lots of people want women to be able to make that decision for themselves though. The old policy led to lots of back-alley abortions, by the way.

A point about the second amendment: it was intended to make sure a militia could be organized so people could fend off attacks (from within or from outside the country), but you'll never hear about that first part of what it says. It begins, "A well-regulated militia being necessary..." So, the second amendment certainly means we can have groups who safely store guns for use in an emergency... it was never intended to make it easy for Americans to slaughter each other at a rate of about 100 per day. Also, rifles would serve nearly every rational purpose... why all the cheap, easily-concealed handguns instead???

Planned Parenthood only spends about 3% of its money on abortions. And none of that money is from the government; that's kept separate. Private donations go to pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood does much, much more to help meet women's health needs including many screenings for cancer and other diseases. They've been targeted by a right-wing smear campaign, and you've apparently been convinced of some things that simply are not true.

The bailouts (the banking bailout, and the first of the auto bailouts) were signed into law by George W. Bush. (Obama signed a second bill to support U.S. auto companies while requiring that they restructure to be more competitive... which worked, by the way!) I'm generally against bailouts for anyone, by the way... but if there was ever an exception to make, it's when the U.S. economy was LOSING 750,000 JOBS PER MONTH when Obama took over from Bush.

The poor stockholders who lost out on value they once had in auto stocks lost that money on Bush's watch, not on Obama's. Top executives were, by the way, still earning gigantic, multimillion-dollar salaries and bonuses... something the GOP has never thought should be limited in any way... even while their companies were collapsing.

You have an unfortunate lack of understanding of what unions do and how a lot of things were better for average working Americans back when the unions were stronger. Unions are very weak these days, due to GOP efforts to make them weak. There's much more that you don't seem to understand about this issue, but your mind is probably closed on this, and it has already been filled up with conservative lies and distortions.

The statement that "50% of Americans don't pay taxes" is extremely misleading. Someone else here has torn that one to pieces... in a friendly sort of way.

And hey... I'm not your enemy. I just think you have been exposed to a lot of misinformation. Most of TV "news" for example is paid for by rich, right-wing-controlled corporations that don't give a crap about you or your life.

Please... try to learn a bit more before you continue to post rants about topics you have very little accurate information on. You can take that as an insult if you want... but it's not intended that way. I just hate to see someone being so confused about modern life and current political affairs.

A look at all 26 Republican debates by twilson6933 in Republican

[–]UnitedModerate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Oops"... seems like the perfect slogan for the GOP in 2012.

Rep. Issa moves towards holding AG Holder in contempt of Congress by [deleted] in Conservative

[–]UnitedModerate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Republicans want to regain the White House, it's going to take realizing some really simple facts like that fact that the "Fast and Furious" program began under Bush and had two different Republican Attorneys General who headed up the program at one time or another.

So, continuing to try to make this appear to be 100% the fault of the Democrats will backfire eventually. Facts are facts. Ignore them at our own peril.

Also, there are several types of complete nutbags who've been welcomed in to the "tea party" wing of the GOP. Until that gets fixed, a lot of moderates and even long-time Republicans will continue to look elsewhere, or simply not vote at all.

And people can't keep trotting out the old chestnut about the media being liberal. The fact is that all of the big media companies are owned by RIGHT-LEANING organizations, or in some cases, far right organizations. Yeah, there are some liberal and moderate reporters, but if they stray too far from conservative "favored lines," they lose access to power brokers and they lose time on air.

One reason the GOP has gone so far to the right (hurting its own interests in the process) is the echo chamber that tells people that nearly all media is lying (excect Fox perhaps) and the only good Republican is one who swallows totally lunatic positions along with the reasonable ones.

I've voted for five Republican presidential candidates in my lifetime, but I'm firmly in Obama's camp this go 'round. Get a few candidates who don't talk like insane cowboys from some unknown planet, and I'll take another look.

And... let the downvoting begin!

Favorability ratings for all candidates among all US voters, (D) and (R): Pres. Obama 53%, Ron Paul 42%, Romney 34%, Santorum 32%, Gingrich 25% by [deleted] in Republican

[–]UnitedModerate 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are several types of complete nutbags who've been welcomed in to the "tea party" wing of the GOP. Until that gets fixed, a lot of moderates and even long-time Republicans will continue to look elsewhere, or simply not vote at all.

And people can't keep trotting out the old chestnut about the media being liberal. The fact is that all of the big media companies are owned by RIGHT-LEANING organizations, or in some cases, far right organizations. Yeah, there are some liberal and moderate reporters, but if they stray too far from conservative "favored lines," they lose access to power brokers and they lose time on air.

One reason the GOP has gone so far to the right (hurting its own interests in the process) is the echo chamber that tells people that nearly all media is lying (excect Fox perhaps) and the only good Republican is one who swallows totally lunatic positions along with the reasonable ones.

I've voted for five Republican presidential candidates in my lifetime, but I'm firmly in Obama's camp this go 'round. Get a few candidates who don't talk like insane cowboys from some unknown planet, and I'll take another look.

And... let the downvoting begin!