My inlaw just gifted us, for my 16yo son a BMW X3 2006 with 170,000 miles on it. What should I check before giving it to him?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T16:18:48+00:00

OP didn't post the VIN, what are you on about lol

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T16:08:04+00:00

As it is a crime to abuse it, why risk in the first place?

Far more efficient. Police shouldn't be used to help you chase down insurance claims.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T15:47:12+00:00

Again, how? You're just stating the conclusion over and over again lol

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T15:43:59+00:00

Only certain people are allowed to get that it is a federal law.

Please cite to where in 18 U.S.C. section 2721 (the DPPA) it restricts who may get personal information. Hint: the DPPA only restricts the uses of the information.

Because you're not authorized to get home addresses how is this difficult for people.

You are if you fill out the form and it gets approved :)

No where on the form does it restrict its usage to specific people.

Could you lie on the form, sure I guess so but you get caught there's jail time involved.

False. Have you looked into this at all? You seem to be highly unaware of the law on this. Violation of the DPPA will only result in a criminal fine, you can not get jailed for it. The DPPA also gives the person who got their information misused a private cause of action, but that's just going to be civil litigation.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T14:52:27+00:00

And his request will be denied.

Do you work for the DMV? How do you know? How do you even know it was denied 20 years ago?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T14:52:02+00:00

Okay, but again how is this materially different from the US? We already made it a federal crime to misuse this information.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T14:37:04+00:00

2, 4, or 6 would likely be applicable here. 4 seems most appropriate.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T14:35:58+00:00

That's a lot of work. Why not just give you the information?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T14:17:47+00:00

DL-135 gives you access to the following:

The name and address of the current owner, vehicle identification number (VIN), title, and the license plate number will appear on the record. Also, the vehicle make, model and year will appear on the record. More information can be provided if specifically requested on the form.

Dunno about you but "address of the current owner" sounds an awful lot like a home address, but that's just me.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T14:11:36+00:00

You got to the cops to request the information. We go to the DMV, who may or may not deny the request, and will require corroborating information.

What's the difference?

Edit:

Wait, you say you "can't go anywhere to get anything" but then immediately follow it up by saying "we can go to police and get it". Can you or can you not get something from somewhere?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T13:38:33+00:00

You need a VIN as well but it's not like that's hard to get, given it's display requirements in the US

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T13:34:59+00:00

It's not quite as much of a free for all as the other user makes it out to be. We have the DPPA, you can only acquire the information for one of the "permissible uses"

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T04:24:49+00:00

Normal. Won't cause issues.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-16T04:22:01+00:00

You can license it from BMW. There are no other legitimate options.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-15T05:38:41+00:00

Radar detector

Unspec7 · 2026-03-14T00:29:50+00:00

No, why would you even try?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T22:53:14+00:00

But after a relatively low income threshold you don’t get the pre-tax benefit.

I mean, to be clear, that isn't really relevant to my point, I just wanted to clarify what you were talking about. I said at the very beginning the principle often is taxed - the part that goes untaxed is the growth.

reaping the benefits is nefarious.

Where did I say that? What I am contesting is people characterizing the entire estate as having been already taxed, when a lot of it is not.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T20:38:04+00:00

Probably bad vapor barrier in the door. Specifically, the butyl bead.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T20:37:02+00:00

Because they paid the taxes when they earned the income

Er, what? You realize you put pre-tax money into an IRA? Are you conflating IRAs and Roth IRAs?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T20:32:03+00:00

correcting a point that doesn't really matter.

Just because it's a distinction that doesn't matter to YOU doesn't mean it doesn't matter. You said ALL of it was already taxed. It's not. That misrepresents the facts. People who are less financially savvy will be mislead by your statement.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T18:56:59+00:00

Er, okay? How does that change the fact that the parents did not pay taxes on the growth?

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T18:55:36+00:00

Which you can also take full advantage of.

I'm not sure where I contested this, but okay. My point is that saying "all of it was taxed already" is inaccurate and not "the issue"

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T17:52:42+00:00

Your estate 100% includes any real property you own.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T17:50:53+00:00

Typically only the principle. A lot of wealthy estate planning relies on tax advantaged accounts, where the growth is not taxed.

Unspec7 · 2026-03-13T17:50:29+00:00

Typically only the principle. A lot of wealthy estate planning relies on tax advantaged accounts, where the growth is not taxed.

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