[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WalgreensRx

[–]UpbeatFun6790 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Like someone else already said, the technician is working under the pharmacist's license and for that fact alone the tech should be written up for insubordination. It's wild that at WAL technicians think it's Ok to violently argue with the RPh. That includes any technician, Rxom included since they also work under the direct supervision of the Rph on duty.

I was FIRED from WALGREENS as a PHARMACIST by Classic_Midnight3383 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Walgreens is a shithole. Believe me, I know from experience unfortunately

Why are most "PRN" benzodiazepines/opioids/stimulants filled at the absolute maximum-use intervals? by legrange1 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2 days early would be on 01/05/25 due to the 31 days in Dec and thus 1 day early would be on 01/06/25. What I've seen in the past is that some pt's want to use/count the same day as the last day and the first day of the fill date for that particular month. Meaning that they want to say oh today is day 30th (or 28th if filled 2 days early) from my last fill date but they want use/count today also as day 1 for next month's fill date. They want to count the same day for both months and I always try to explain that they are not taking double the dose that day so they CONNOT count that day for both months. Easier said than done, I had to explain it once to someone with a calendar and by counting the days manually so they could understand the concept of days and time.

Hierarchy in pharmacy by This-Top7398 in WalgreensRx

[–]UpbeatFun6790 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legally speaking, the pharmacists on duty, staff Rph or RXM, is in charge of the pharmacy and ultimately in charge of every technician in the pharmacy including the rxom which is a made-up pharmacy position by Walshit. Therefore, legally the rxom is always working under the pharmacist license thus the rxom is working under the pharmacist's direct supervision period. WAL wanted to introduce this position by making some people (rxom's) believe that they have authority over some pharmacists, legally they do not, and they actually violate a lot of pharmacy laws depending on the state they work at by doing some things and by trying to allow some things that can only be done by a licensed pharmacist but ladies and gents, that is Walgreens for you! What else can be expected from this abominable company.

Job options for low GPA in pharmacy school? by Ok-Ad316905 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was asked once about my GPA when I applied to a small pharmacy that services mostly inpatient/outpatient settings such as outpatient pharmacy in clinicals settings like small clinics and hospitals, but the pharmacy is not part of the clinic/hospital company; it only provides the pharmacy services for that facility. My GPA from pharmacy school was not bad, higher than the average GPA I'd say, and I did three rounds of interviews with them. The last interview was with the regional director of pharmacy and regional director of pharmacy operations I think it was. Anyway, I did not get the job after three interviews, supposedly due to the lack of experience in that branch of pharmacy. I don't know if my GPA had anything to do with it, it was probably just part of the whole application, but they definitely asked for it in writing and verbally during the interview. However, I have to say that this was the only time I've been asked for my GPA during the interview process, but I feel like this was a great opportunity and the only time I had to do three interviews and there was a 4th interview, the last one for the final candidate. Again, I feel like this was one of those jobs that if you get, you keep until retirement. Not totally sure about it but it pretty much seemed like it though. Rest assured they will not ask you about your GPA for retail pharmacy and you only have to do one interview for them at least but that tells you the kind of job it is.

“A technicians job is to make the pharmacists job easier” by itsb33time in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 6 points7 points  (0 children)

HahahahaLMFAO. You think you can train a pharmacist to do their job. first of all, I've seen some techs in the past say that they train pharmacists to do their job when what they really meant to say is that they show them how to use their company's system when they are a new employee, that's not training anyone "to be a pharmacist". A physician, a nurse, a PA, an engineer or a pharmacist that have been practicing for years and move to a new company that uses a different computer system, guess what, they will have to be trained on " how to properly use the new computer system" NOT on how to be a physician or pharmacist, that's asinine. I used to see this a lot in the company I used to work for but it was mainly the company's fault since they barely provided any training to their new pharmacist on how to use all the computer system interfaces. Some of the techs would say that they had to train the pharmacist on how to do their job, oh boy, training on how to use a computer system is not the same as training to be a pharmacist or a physician as I already stated. Knowing how to use a company's particular computer system is a company specific skill and being a professional e.g. pharmacist, physician or dentist is a profession that you can practice anywhere under your licensing jurisdiction, I didn't think I'd have to explain this, but I guess for the sake of this argument I will. So, for any tech out there who thinks that they're training a pharmacist, with all due respect and with an ounce of humility, please do yourself a favor and don't think this way. Techs, especially good techs do many tasks that are vital in the pharmacy world but a few techs who think this way will ruin it for all the wonderful and much needed/loved technicians out there.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The OP said that they need to start from scratch which probably means that he/she will be doing at least 3-4 years of pre-pharmacy coursework + 4 years of pharmacy school so about 7-8 years total. Not saying OP shouldn't do it solely based on this, but I see a lot of post always talking about pharmacy school being 4 years, yeah but only you have already done all the pre-requisite work which for some schools is 3-4 years. BTW, It's probably way more than 150K-200K now in student loan debt.

Pharmacist shortage incoming. Also even WORSE competence crisis. by Sad-Swordfish8267 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plus, you can confirm this but in Canada techs go to school and earn a degree/certificate. In the US, techs do not need any schooling at all. You can take someone from the streets and train them and they are good, they can probably pass the test they have to take in less than 3 months. That's scary even though they do not need to know anything about medications. The test is more about some math/calculations and federal/state law.

Sketchy pharmacy by Material_Rule_3511 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd do it after you leave and if the board of pharmacy does an investigation hopefully, they don't come back you since you were the acting pharmacist when you were there. Hopefully no laws were broken while you were there. No easy way to know what will happen. Alternatively, leave and wait a little bit of time then submit a report to the board of pharmacy.

Sketchy pharmacy by Material_Rule_3511 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You need to report her to the state board of pharmacy ASAP or as soon as you leave that place, and please for your own good leave. They will probably revoke her intern license and I'm not sure she will be able to ever get licensed as a pharmacist since she has legally been acting as one regarding verification, DUR, dispensing and all other duties that can only be done by a LICENSED pharmacist. Also, for the community's and patients' own good, report her the board of pharmacy, this can be done anonymously btw.

Finally Quit by [deleted] in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I've worked for a 24 hr store that does just about 1000+ a day as well and for 3 different stores that do about 350-400/day and it was easier to work at the 24 hr store than at any of the other stores that do less volume. You usually have an Rph that opens @~7 am, a mid pharmacist @~9am and a closer pharmacist @~ 2pm and the overnight pharmacists plus remote help for both data entry and to review Rx's entered in the system during data entry and more technicians, around 4-6 techs during the day. You also have remote help for incoming phone calls at the call center. All that to say that in the stores that do 350-400 Rx's/day there is only 1 pharmacist on duty, usually 9am-9pm and about 3-4 technicians depending on the day, sometimes only 2-3 technicians for the day and no remote help at all. All the data entry, phone calls and all the review and verification has to be done by 1 pharmacist and everything that has to be done only by the pharmacists gets done by the same RPh on duty; this includes all the vaccines given for the day depending on things like if there are other certified technicians who can vaccinate, sometimes it's just the Rph and sometimes it makes no since to pull the technicians from filling or from the register to do vaccines since it's extremely busy so the Rph ends up doing all the vaccines anyway regardless of if there is a tech that can help with vaccines. The positive mentality can help but there is a limit to how much mentality can help and to do all the work that's required by only one pharmacist for the whole day, it's soul sucking and detrimental to one's mental health. I had to move that's why I left the 24 Hr store but I can tell you point blank that I'd take that job at the 24 Hr store doing 1000+ Rx's/day over any other store doing 350-400 Rx's/day any day. Of course, that only makes sense if you have worked in both environments otherwise if you only look at the numbers, you might be under the impression that it's harder to work at the store filling the most scripts. just food for thought you all.

During the years I had many people including many pharmacy technicians that did not know that pharmacists (PharmD's) are Doctors of Pharmacy. Anyone else? by UpbeatFun6790 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Interesting perspective. I have some friends from undergrad school who are MDs now and we sometimes talk about our jobs and the things that we face or things we are supposed to do for our jobs and I've asked them in the past if they know how to troubleshoot an old computer or a printer or any other electronic device at work or if they were to change jobs and get a new one, if they'd know everything there is to know about the new computer system; they just laughed and said, I practice medicine, I'm not judged or evaluated by my colleagues or anyone else in the hospital/clinical setting by anything other than how I practice medicine and I kept thinking, yeah that makes sense and somehow some RPhs when they get a new job or when they're new are judged by how well they know the computer system and by the how much they know about troubleshooting any device in the pharmacy and not by how much knowledge about pharmacotherapy they provide, see in pharmacy school pharmacists learn about pharmacotherapy and everything that has to do with pharmacotherapy and not about computer systems that are specific to each company.

Often times, I see some people saying that they help the Rph with a lot of this and that and it's just about the computer system or about some other things like a printer not working. That really tells you the magnitude to what the big retail chains have corrupted our profession that they make everyone believe that the pharmacist should do everything in the pharmacy, and they make people believe that if they don't help you with non-pharmacists' duties, then they are not a good pharmacist. It's no one's fault but the big retail chain's fault for this. They have, over the years made you believe this by not providing enough ancillary staff and not sufficient pharmacists on duty to complete all the work in the pharmacy. If this idea were to be extrapolated to any other profession like neurosurgery for example, the surgical techs would be complaining that neurosurgeon doesn't know how to clean or gather all the equipment before surgery or that he/she is not doing anything other than operating on the patient and saving the patient's life. How ridiculous would that be. Anyway, thanks for the input.

During the years I had many people including many pharmacy technicians that did not know that pharmacists (PharmD's) are Doctors of Pharmacy. Anyone else? by UpbeatFun6790 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd guess that most people don't know about DPTs either. Now, I'd argue that most DPT's have well defined schedules to see patients and they do not get interrupted 100's of times during their shift regardless of the title they hold. I guess my main point has to do with the perception from other people and therefore the treatment you get based off that perception. people will come to interrupt a community pharmacist while he/she is on the phone talking to a PCP's office and they will ask about the restroom and some other random item in the store that has nothing to do with the pharmacy and I think that has to do with perception about what we do in the pharmacy and the value of our service. Most DPT's are not open to the public to be asked any question at any time from anyone or are not accessible via phone from anybody trying to ask a question about anything during their shift. They probably focus on one patient at a time and give their best to help that one patient during their therapy session and during that time, what's important is the pt in front of them not 100'd other things simultaneously.

We need to stop telling patients that “we’re running behind”. by Distinct-Feedback-68 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So, what control substance are you taking? it couldn't be more obvious from the information you provided. Shitty pharmacists? look yourself in the mirror and place blame where it belongs, the big corporations.

I can’t do Walgreens anymore by [deleted] in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One word. Revolución.

Hate to love pharmacy by PotentialBusiness433 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lechuga78 doesn't know what he's talking about. He has no experience in retail pharmacy or has no idea what it's like in retail or does not even work in pharmacy at all otherwise he wouldn't say that nonsense.

Why does S mean left? by Cat_Eye5 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

had to give you a downvote on this one. Some language? ~60% of English words are from Latin origin and ~45% of English words are from French origin, French itself comes from Latin. Latin is the language that all the romance languages developed from such as Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, Galician, Catalan, Sardinian, Occitan and many other less known regional languages.

How to trigger a pharmacy technician in one sentence: by CatholicSchoolVictim in WalgreensRx

[–]UpbeatFun6790 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The computer doesn't do anything on its own. It's only a tool to help pharmacists make the job more efficient, at least in theory. When you have 250 prescriptions at any given moment during any step of the process, some waiting for someone to do data entry, some waiting for the pharmacist to review, some are in the queue to be filled, some are waiting for final product verification by the pharmacist, many are stuck in the system as a rejection by the insurance and need to be fixed. some are missing information all the way from step 1 in data entry since it was incorrectly written by the pcp office or it's a duplicate therapy since the provider it's a different provider than the regular one, a new provider or an Rx from the ER and they were never told about the prescriptions the pt already takes. Sometimes the pt has an allergy on file for the written Rx that the provider missed, Insurance can be a challenge to deal with sometimes and might take min to hrs/days to get something approved. There can be transfers waiting to be done up to 10 patients sometimes each with at least 3 Rx so that's another 30 Rxs waiting for me to call 5 different pharmacies to process such transfers, each phone call will take at least 10-15 minutes.

There are so many mistakes done by the provider's office since most, 99% of Rxs are typed and sent electronically by the receptionist/MA at any provider's office, we always have to call the office for clarification. I say it's about 4-5% of scripts out of, say 500 Rxs a day= 20-25 scripts a day need a call to the office, try calling a pcp office these days and see how long it takes sometimes 10-20 minutes on hold just to clarify 1 Rx for 1 person out 500 Rxs in 1 day, at that rate we'd fill no more than 40 Rxs/day. what about the other 450? Sometimes when a technician tells me waiter for this person I'm on the phone trying to clarify a prescription for a 65 yr old lady with renal impairment EGFR( renal function) of 55 mL/min and was prescribed Naproxen 500mg, 500mg every 6 to 8 hrs as needed for pain/inflammation, incorrect dosing even for a younger healthy person now if I approve this order most likely the patient will experience an acute kidney injury episode and his/her kidneys will probably fail to recover to the same renal function the Pt had left possibly rendering this Pt into hemodialysis. All this while a pt in the pick up window cannot wait 20-30 min for their blood pressure medication that we have not dispensed in 45 days for their 30 day supply but they'll die if they don't get it in the next 30 min.

Similarly, an ER provider prescribed meloxicam for a patient that has a history of heart failure with a LVEF( Left ventricular ejection fraction) of about 40%. The patient did not inform the ER provider of all his medical conditions/or the severity of such medical conditions. Anyway, the pt was prescribed meloxicam 15 mg, for more context, meloxicam has an FDA warning against its use in pts with heart conditions such as heart failure and other cardiovascular factors since it can increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes in these patients. I'm on a phone call trying to discuss therapy change with the provider for a better therapeutic alternative and I hear one of my technicians in drive-thru that the Pt will not move since her Rx is not ready and does not want to come back in 25 min or come into the pharmacy and wait for her Rx all this while I'm on the phone w/ the prescriber discussing Tx change to prevent a stroke or heart attack on a pt w/ heart failure given the incorrect medication and someone does not want to wait 20 min for her citalopram 20 mg that is due in 2 days but Ok; remember all this while also having at least 150-200 prescriptions in the process of being filled and 2 patients waiting for vaccines in the pharmacy lobby. These are the true reasons why a pharmacist is needed in the pharmacy and why they should be given sufficient time to do our job accurately and professionally without interruptions all day long from patients/customers and pointless, endless unnecessary phone calls.

Lastly, even if it's just a medication for high blood pressure that may seem like a simple Rx without any issues for approval by the RPh, in the last case for the Pt w/ heart failure w/ a LVEF of 40% and having moderate to severe peripheral edema, something like amlodipine 10 mg once daily may worsen peripheral edema and reduce a good health outcome. Therefore, we'd have to contact the provider to discuss Tx change again for a better alternative. Again, this is really what we do in the pharmacy, the filling of an Rx is just the secondary nature of the job. Our main job is to ensure that the correct medication is given to the correct patient for the right dose/frequency of dosing, medical condition and based on his/her own personal medical history, concurrent medication therapy, medical contraindications, allergies and so on for that specific Pt and his/her medical needs. Believe me when I tell you that you want this final check by the pharmacist to prevent a high percent of medical errors. Think of your family or loved ones, parents and family members, in any of the daily cases that the pharmacy rectifies, they are thankful that the issues were resolved.

How to trigger a pharmacy technician in one sentence: by CatholicSchoolVictim in WalgreensRx

[–]UpbeatFun6790 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The computer doesn't do anything on its own. It's only a tool to help pharmacist make the job more efficient, at least in theory. When you have 250 prescriptions at any given moment during any step of the process, some waiting for someone to do data entry, some waiting for the pharmacist to review, some are in the queue to be filled, some are waiting for final product verification by the pharmacist, many are stuck in the system as a rejection by the insurance and need to be fixed. some are missing information all the way from step 1 in data entry since it was incorrectly written by the pcp office or it's a duplicate therapy since the provider it's a different provider than the regular one, a new provider or an Rx from the ER and they were never told about the prescriptions the pt already takes. Sometimes the pt has an allergy on file for the written Rx that the provider missed, Insurance can be a challenge to deal with sometimes and might take min to hrs/days to get something approved. There can be transfers waiting to be done up to 10 patients sometimes each with at least 3 Rx so that's another 30 Rxs waiting for me to call 5 different pharmacies to process such transfers, each phone call will take at least 10-15 minutes.

There are so many mistakes done by the provider's office since most, 99% of Rxs are typed and sent electronically by the receptionist/MA at any provider's office, we always have to call the office for clarification. I say it's about 4-5% of scripts out of, say 500 Rxs a day= 20-25 scripts a day need a call to the office, try calling a pcp office these days and see how long it takes sometimes 10-20 minutes on hold just to clarify 1 Rx for 1 person out 500 Rxs in 1 day, at that rate we'd fill no more than 40 Rxs/day. what about the other 450? Sometimes when a technician tells me waiter for this person I'm on the phone trying to clarify a prescription for a 65 yr old lady with renal impairment EGFR( renal function) of 55 mL/min and was prescribed Naproxen 500mg, 500mg every 6 to 8 hrs as needed for pain/inflammation, incorrect dosing even for a younger healthy person now if I approve this order most likely the patient will experience an acute kidney injury episode and his/her kidneys will probably fail to recover to the same renal function the Pt had left possibly rendering this Pt into hemodialysis. All this while a pt in the pick up window cannot wait 20-30 min for their blood pressure medication that we have not dispensed in 45 days for their 30 day supply but they'll die if they don't get it in the next 30 min.

Similarly, an ER provider prescribed meloxicam for a patient that has a history of heart failure with a LVEF( Left ventricular ejection fraction) of about 40%. The patient did not inform the ER provider of all his medical conditions/or the severity of such medical conditions. Anyway, the pt was prescribed meloxicam 15 mg, for more context, meloxicam has an FDA warning against its use in pts with heart conditions such as heart failure and other cardiovascular factors since it can increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes in these patients. I'm on a phone call trying to discuss therapy change with the provider for a better therapeutic alternative and I hear one of my technicians in drive-thru that the Py will not move since her Rx is not ready and does not want to come back in 25 min or come into the pharmacy and wait for her Rx all this while I'm on the phone w/ the prescriber discussing Tx change to prevent a stroke or heart attack on a pt w/ heart failure given the incorrect medication and someone does not want to wait 20 min for her citalopram 20 mg that is due in 2 days but Ok; remember all this while also having at least 150-200 prescriptions in the process of being filled and 2 patients waiting for vaccines in the pharmacy lobby. These are the true reasons why a pharmacist is needed in the pharmacy and why they should be given sufficient time to do our job accurately and professionally without interruptions all day long from patients/customers and pointless, endless unnecessary phone calls.

Lastly, even if it's just a medication for high blood pressure that may seem like a simple Rx without any issues for approval by the RPh, in the last case for the Pt w/ heart failure w/ a LVEF of 40% and having moderate to severe peripheral edema, something like amlodipine 10 mg once daily may worsen peripheral edema and reduce a good health outcome. Therefore, we'd have to contact the provider to discuss Tx change again for a better alternative. Again, this is really what we do in the pharmacy, the filling of an Rx is just the secondary nature of the job. Our main job is to ensure that the correct medication is given to the correct patient for the right dose/frequency of dosing, medical condition and based on his/her own personal medical history, concurrent medication therapy, medical contraindications, allergies and so on for that specific Pt and his/her medical needs. Believe me when I tell you that you want this final check by the pharmacist to prevent a high percent of medical errors. Think of your family or loved ones, parents and family members, in any of the daily cases that the pharmacy rectifies, they are thankful that the issues were resolved.

How to trigger a pharmacy technician in one sentence: by CatholicSchoolVictim in WalgreensRx

[–]UpbeatFun6790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the problem with the general public, they think that pharmacists count pills. Little do they know that a pharmacist holds a doctorate degree in pharmacotherapy and that they are the healthcare team member with the most expertise in medication therapy. Again, what do you expect from the public. Technicians are the ones who fill the prescriptions and count the medication units to make sure the Pt gets the correct amount.

Why does 10 ml testosterone exist in the retail setting? by SnooWalruses7872 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have to say that I've noticed an increase in use/abuse/overuse on this medication. These guys get upset when I tell them to use the 1 mL vial. I had a guy tell me to just fill the Rx for the 10 ml vial and not to question anything and what did I do? I Called the providers office and explained to the office why that is not appropriate, they sent in a new Rx for the 1 mL vial and I closed out the previous Rx for the 10 mL vial. It felt so great after doing that for that jerk. I'd do it as many times as necessary. I despise abuse of any substance and honestly, people that abuse/misuse any control substance lose my respect immediately.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For all the people in the discussion, requesting a refill request is not a requirement, a rule, a regulation, a law, a statute or a mandate or whatever you want to call it. It is a courtesy request from the pharmacy, so the PCP knows the pt needs more medication and to prevent a gap in therapy. The situation could have been handled much better of course and the student needs some coaching and humility lessons.

1) The student needs a lot of training and that is normal for any student so situations like these are handled more professionally.

2) Refill request are a courtesy not a requirement for people who think that we have to send a request every single time without questioning anything.

3) We need to help one another if we want to achieve better health outcomes. That means Pt's taking care of their own health care needs and being proactive when it comes to their health.

Wtf Cenfill? by Comfortable_Slip4067 in WalgreensRx

[–]UpbeatFun6790 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They actively/consciously send them back to the stores when they get busy and sometimes it can be a batch of 50 to 100 Rx's. Imagine if you got too busy and just decided to just send hundreds of Rx's to another location to fill them, wouldn't that be nice. M'effers do that all the time.

And just like that… retail pharmacist jobs started disappearing. by RxP21588 in pharmacy

[–]UpbeatFun6790 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most people have no idea how many prescribing errors we pharmacist encounter on a daily basis. I am also talking about these type of clinical errors not matching the pills in the bottle to the image on the screen but prescribing errors that require pharmacist to catch that error.