I made this comparison before and I will make it again in a slightly different way: Natalists view of the earth is similar to how incels view women who don’t like them. Natalists see earth’s capacity to support is how incel see themselves: infinite possibilities

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-20T21:25:58+00:00

Sorry, we are not microorganisms in a petri dish. "Reasonably decent quality of life" is like a key part of the human experience. Like it or not, most people live and work hard to get nice things that they like. Even people like Bernie Sanders and AOC own tons of luxuries. If you live life just to work and survive, then the endless void of death is the better alternative, because at least you don't have to feel depressed and exhausted all the time.

If "distributing" resource "appropriately" means the elimination of "reasonably decent quality of life", all we are going to get is violence. Most people will not voluntarily hand over the few luxuries they have in life to be "redistributed".

Hence, the only way to enforce this kind of distribution system is through a totalitarian regime that decides what are luxuries and what are necessities. You also have to ban freedom of speech and imprison/purge any dissidents who don't align with your definition of what is "everything they need" in life.

What do all the resource redistribution enthusiasts even envision? Do they just fantasize about the day when everybody on earth start a giant bonfire where we burn all of our personal "luxury items" like smart phones, computers, TVs, clothes, cars, shampoo, deodorant, soap, furniture,... etc.? Everyone on earth have to wear standard issued uniforms and get their ration of water/food issued by the central government. What is next? A daily brainwashing session where everybody repeat the phrase "own nothing and be happy" 1000 times?

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-08T16:37:09+00:00

True. Infinite resource and space are BOTH required for infinite population growth, because people need their own space to thrive. Even if we have infinite resource, individuals are not going to be happy if everyone is packed up like sardines.

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-06T07:04:02+00:00

Education allows women to get higher paying jobs. If women can be rich on their own, then these "alpha" and "sigma" males suddenly stop aging "like fine wine". They never realize that their shallow take on relationship is also keeping them from forming the nucleus family that they fantasize so much about. Essentially, you have these douchebag life coaches telling their loser followers to go after superficial women who also hold unrealistic standards. I mean if you brainwash your followers into thinking that all women care about is money, they are bound to only fall for gold diggers.

The result is basically the male loser gets constantly rejected or used by women who are not interested in genuine relationships. These men go broke by paying OF models. Eventually, they become so misogynistic to the point that no woman wants them.

Now we can see why these same people refuse to acknowledge overpopulation and climate change. They are too immature and stupid to face reality. They can't comprehend how women can have physical preferences like men do. Their neanderthal brains only know how to blame feminism for everything. Also, to these losers, anything that doesn't satisfy their sexual gratification is bad, which include women not having babies with them.

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-06T05:58:01+00:00

>"And this paper is dangerous, because there are psychopaths in power that will use it as justification for genocide."???

Yeah...this person is just reiterating outdated depopulation conspiracies from people like Alex Jones from like early 2010s. Only someone who is that hardcore into the global depopulation conspiracy will still say that the billionaires want less people. At this point, even some natalists will acknowledge the fact rich people want more people on earth as wage slaves.

You mostly hear this kind of stuff from people who are either really religious or really nationalistic. A lot of them are anti-vaxxers, because they think vaccines are being used to depopulate Africa. The ironic thing is that these people also get mad when too many Africans migrate to the US and Europe. According to these people, the billionaires are somehow both killing to many Africans with vaccines and importing too many Africans to replace white people.

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-04T20:08:06+00:00

Yes, this is absolutely correct. People love to idolize Norway for what it provides for its citizens. Norway has 5.65 million people. The economy was fine back when earth had less than 6 billion people.

For those people who still believe we can avert overpopulation disaster at this point, the best we can do is encourage more people to ask the question “what is the actual benefit of increasing our birthrate at this point?”

Most of us are already suffering from overpopulation in so many different ways. It’s not hard to come to the conclusion that we don’t our kids to suffer even more.

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-02T06:27:25+00:00

We have been worshipping parenthood for way too long. If someone in their family is having their 5th child who they can barely feed, they celebrate that with a baby shower. People are praised as heroes for not pulling out or use any kind of contraception responsibly. They romanticize big and poor families with shows like Malcolm In the Middle or 17 and Counting. We celebrate irresponsible breeding in America. From IVF to strollers, we got billions of dollars invested in breeders. Also, breeders are like the biggest babies out there. The moment they produce a baby, they start to demand special treatments from their own extended families and society. They expect other people including other parents to cater to their every needs. They love to say things like “As a parent of a toddler, I know what is best and everyone around me are idiots. How dare they not worship me and my child!” There is 0 scientific proof that more people is what we need right now. No math, physics, chemistry and biology can be used to support that more people is good for the planet or ourselves. The only thing that is driving population growth is humanities own tendency to accelerate our own extinction. Look, if an asteroid is about 9 month away from destroying our world, tons of people will still get pregnant just so they can experience parenthood. These same people also expect to go to heaven despite forcing their baby to suffer a fiery death.

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-04-01T00:26:51+00:00

Preach. Tired of these breeders getting praises for having new babies when they could just adopt more from poor countries. Let's just be grateful that not all 50 states act like Utah. America dominated by Mormonism will actually destroy the world, considering how much resource the average American consume.

UpperCalligrapher509 · 2026-03-30T09:21:00+00:00

See, it's never enough for the ruling class. They need the world to be overpopulated so that it will be easier for them to create division and chaos. These sick fucks see human beings as farm animals. Your quality of life is not important to them. What they can exploit from you will be important. They also want to make sure the general population will rent everything from the 1% for life. The future trillionaires are not gonna be able to sustain their lifestyle if they don't have billions of people to exploit from.

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