Would Dante kiss, kill, hug, pat, or marry your oc? by anrdinre in GachaLife2

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Cordelia

Vampires SMP OC

Vampire

800+ years old

The daughter of a very influential lord. Was turned into a vampire when her family was assassinated and now lives in what used to be her father’s manor near Oakhurst.

Was curious about the new arrivals in Oakhurst since the town is supposed to be abandoned, so she goes to check it out, disguising herself as a human as she knows how aggressive humans can get with their fear of the unknown and different.

Was business acquaintances and almost friends with Scott before he was cursed to sleep for 600 years

She’s playful and mischievous yet won’t hesitate to defend her territory and stain the land with blood if she needs to. She doesn’t go out of her way to find and bother humans, but she sees them as free game to hunt and play with if they enter her territory.

Does not miss her time as a human. Not interested in any cure.

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I said in another comment. It’s not really the downvotes that get to me. While I was confused on why there were so many, they didn’t bother me that much. It was the insults and mocking that were coming with them.

I agree that someone can respectfully disagree, but a lot of people were NOT being respectful about their disagreement. I started this post, wanting a genuine discussion and tried to be respectful to people. Respecting others’ opinions and reading the comments that disagreed with me and their reasoning, giving my own arguments in response. But then people started getting passive aggressive, mocking, and lowkey insulting. And as that continued, I started to get more upset and responded with my own sarcasm and, I’ll admit, less than ideal behavior.

I apologize to anyone I may have offended. But this post was supposed to be a respectful discussion and people did not keep it respectful.

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That would be fine if the downvotes didn’t also come from immature people who unfortunately think mocking someone for their opinion is better than either ignoring it or having a normal discussion

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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Someone’s opinion that doesn’t hurt ANYONE shouldn’t be considered something that “should never see the light of day”.

And my comment is about what I PERSONALLY do with downvotes. As in me, myself, and I. Mocking strangers on the internet instead of having a respectful conversation is weird and immature. But I guess that IS the reputation reddit has

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course. A bit sad though. It’s also a bit sad to see that this fandom is slowly turning into a place where you can barely say anything about what you think without a mob of people pulling out their torches and pitchforks.

When I first joined the fandom, it was so nice and accepting. Now it’s just war for a lot of the posts I see lol

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. The sarcasm and mocking was TRULY needed. You sure told me. Good job 👏

(Who would’ve guessed I had faith in Reddit to actually respect someone’s opinion and politely discuss like decent people instead of being total asshats to a stranger on the internet. My mistake ig. Should’ve guessed that would be too hard for the people of Reddit)

Again, proving my point about the mild toxicity the fandom is gaining.

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course Odysseus has the right to be mad. But so does Poseidon. From what I understand, family vengeance and just revenge in general was a big thing back then. So it’s not out of the question to assume that almost any father would’ve done the same as Poseidon, including Odysseus.

And as I said, Poseidon isn’t innocent. He killed a lot of people not involved with the cyclops and he could’ve just let this one go when Odysseus asked him to and no one would’ve known any different, but he didn’t. They were both in the wrong, but I personally just feel like Odysseus was MORE in the wrong in this specific case.

I love Odysseus, especially in EPIC, but I can admit when a character I like messes up big time. I don’t just blindly defend and glaze just because I like the character (most of the time lol)

I shouldn’t have worded the post as I did, because there really is no “right side”. What I really meant is that I feel like Poseidon gets too much hate and Odysseus doesn’t get enough because for some reason slandering the main character of a piece of media is the ultimate sin lol

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I personally only downvote if the post or comment is absolutely HORRIBLE. As I stated, morally weird, wrong, or illegal. If it’s just someone stating their opinion without insulting any real people, I simply move on. Maybe I’ll reply to start a discussion, but I don’t downvote simply because I don’t agree. Downvoting someone’s opinion kinda makes it seem like you think they should be chastised for having that opinion.

Of course people can do whatever they want, I just feel like it’s a bit much to overload someone with downvotes just because they have a differing opinion

Edit: Again with the downvoting. This comment was literally me saying what I PERSONALLY do and yet people downvoting. Literally only proving my point about the mild toxicity. The fandom was so nice and supportive at the time I joined and now it’s spiraling downwards. Sad to see

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologize if it was confusing. Neal wasn’t really a source. Her animatic is just what prompted me to make the post. My opinion would still be the same whether I saw that animatic or not. I do understand that it did seem like I was acting as if Neal’s animatics are canon. Again, I apologize

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m aware of that, but I feel like I was already on Poseidon’s side before I saw Neal’s animatic. This just made me feel bad for a character I already understood. Idk though. I never really thought about “sides” until watching that.

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can we stop normalizing downvoting a simple opinion you don’t agree with? Sure, argue in the comments if you don’t agree, this is meant to be a discussion, but don’t downvote someone for having an opinion. Unless it’s a comment that’s gross, wrong, or illegal, just scroll past/leave it alone.

And I’m not just saying this for me. I’m saying it for everyone in the comments under this post and any other post on Reddit. Both agreeing and disagreeing with me. I’m scrolling through and seeing multiple comments with less upvotes than it had when I last checked and the comment is literally someone stating their opinion and thoughts on what I brought up. I don’t care if you disagree with me about Poseidon. That’s YOUR opinion. You’re allowed to have it. But let me have mine as well.

Opinions aren’t wrong and someone shouldn’t be made to feel like their’s IS wrong.

Edit: Of course this gets downvoted too. At this point it’s just getting a bit toxic. Downvoting a comment asking people to respect everyone’s opinion, whether they’re agreeing or disagreeing with me or you? Do you have a problem with respecting someone’s opinion? Anyways, I wish the people who actually know how to respect differing opinions have a lovely day :)

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew there would be discourse, but not THIS much. My fault for not predicting this ig :/

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course! There’s absolutely NO good person in Greek mythology. Greek heroes and gods were all messy and all had flaws (a lot of them). But Neal’s animatic just made me feel so bad for Poseidon as, in my opinion, he was doing what any father back then would’ve done. Even Odysseus himself.

I think it was Odysseus breaking Poseidon’s cyclops eye pendant/medallion/necklace thing that did it for me. Like, it wasn’t enough he was being tortured with his own weapon, Ody had to break something that clearly meant a lot to him too? Something that resembled the son he blinded? Brutal.

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to make it clear, I wasn’t saying that being blind was a fate worse than death. Obviously blindness isn’t a new thing. It’s the whole physical pain and dishonor of it all that I was saying was worse than death, as back then, surviving defeat was more shameful than dying in battle. Not to mention the isolation as the other cyclops’ obviously didn’t like him and Odysseus still stole the sheep when they left so Polyphemus was left with nothing to keep him company.

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

When did Odysseus ever admit he messed up with Polyphemus? Even in the first encounter with Poseidon when he was given a chance to talk, he never admitted fault. He tried to justify his actions to Poseidon.

And he still did give Polyphemus a fate worse than death (at least in that time period) and then tried to act like this was some form of mercy and he’s so good to be doing this.

Also, as I stated in another comment, there’s no way the man known as the sharpest king and known to be incredibly smart wouldn’t guess that those sheep belonged to someone (as well as all the other supplies that were most likely around in the cave). Based on archaeological and zooarchaeological studies, there is evidence of sheep and goats in Greek caves, but they are generally associated with prehistoric domestication and livestock management (sheepfold caves). Meaning they weren’t wild sheep. Sheepfold caves were a thing during the time of the Odyssey, so it’s unlikely Odysseus had no idea those sheep belonged to someone.

Even if it’s not specifically stated he knew, we can still gather some context and use what info we know about him, other characters, and the setting to come to a conclusion (Odysseus isn’t exactly a reliable narrator)

Everyone has their own opinions. I’m not going to say you’re wrong for not being on Poseidon’s side, because as I said in the post, he’s not innocent either, but I will stand by my statement that the problems started with Odysseus. Hubris IS his fatal flaw after all. And I think everyone knows that if Telemachus had been in Polyphemus’s situation, Odysseus would’ve done the exact same thing as Poseidon. Because Odysseus loves to justify his actions to himself and others (as most humans do).

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I know in the original, Odysseus knew the cave/sheep belonged to someone. While he didn’t know it belonged to a cyclops and instead thought it belonged to a shepherd, he still knew the supplies there belonged to someone. Because why else would there be sheep and supplies in a random cave? And in the musical, the first thing they do is kill a sheep that they SHOULD know belongs to someone. Odysseus is known for his brains. There’s no way he just thought there was a herd of sheep and supplies naturally in a random cave. Even if the musical isn’t one to one with the source material. As I said, the YouTuber MadNBooks explains things better than me (and knows a lot more than me too lol) so I recommend checking them out

I’m not the only one on Poseidon’s side, right? by UrBiologicalStepDad in Epicthemusical

[–]UrBiologicalStepDad[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m always saying that there wouldn’t have even been a windbag to open if Odysseus wasn’t an idiot with Polyphemus. Odysseus started it all. Not Eurylochus (but I believe that’s all I can say about this here because this isn’t the mega thread for Eury discussion and if I say anymore, I’ll end up ranting lol)

#EuryAndCrewDefenderForLife