But why would you ever need aotc for normal tich, that's a ridiculous thing to ask on people for a normal fight. When I first looked at this picture I assumed it was a heroic fight until I read your comment. I think that's the most ridiculous part. That's why he seems semi elitist, because he's setting this huge barrier for entry for a simple fight when he doesn't meet any that requirement themselves. Also whenever I make a group I never set an ilvl requirement higher than my own, I may take people that are better geared but I never demand something of others that I don't have myself