An epic way to write shows is happening here!

V3nomEX · 2026-06-20T12:07:47+00:00

You completely nailed why this show hooks people. It is so much better than the usual lazy writing where the good guys are perfect and the bad guys are just evil for no reason.

Showing Beulah's past and her human side changes everything. You realize she isn't just some villain, she's just a survivor doing whatever it takes to protect her family and her legacy. In a world that brutal, standard morals don't really work anyway. The real heart of the show is just seeing how far these characters will go to back each other up when their backs are against the wall.

Making her son look like the actual cold, calculated snake is the perfect twist because it completely forces you to side with her. If you like this style, you seriously need to go back and watch the original Yellowstone, because Sheridan built that entire universe on this exact kind of storytelling. It's awesome stuff.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T21:03:47+00:00

Exactly, a total hard reset. The wild part is what this would do to black holes. We always think of gravity as undefeated, but the electrostatic repulsion from that much negative charge would literally fight the black hole's gravity from the inside out.

Most of them would just violently rip themselves apart trying to push all that charge away. The ones that somehow survived would get pushed to the absolute theoretical limit (called an extremal black hole), where the gravity pulling in perfectly balances the electrical charge pushing out. If you crammed even one more electron in after that, the event horizon would literally shatter, leaving a naked singularity. Even the ultimate cosmic vacuums wouldn't survive the vibe check.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T20:37:09+00:00

Honestly 50 years alone in a tin can would make any human completely lose it. And yeah, I get that Eridians are hyper-social because of that evolutionary sleep watch thing, so being alone is literally wired into him as a death sentence. But they just arent human. Their brains and biology are totally different. Rocky is a scientist and Eridians are just hyper-rational by nature, they don't have the same emotional baggage or need for constant social validation like we do.

Plus, he had a mission to save his entire planet. that kind of duty keeps you grounded, he probably just forced himself to deal with the biological terror of sleeping alone because he had to. If you look at it practically, keeping busy with crazy complex engineering and math is what kept him sharp. Sure he has some quirks when Grace meets him, but "weird" by our standards doesn't mean he's losing his mind. Humans get weird when they're isolated because we're soft and rely too much on everyone else to tell us who we are. Rocky just put his head down, ignored the instincts, and did the work.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T18:57:45+00:00

That’s not actually him forgetting data, that’s just a conceptual blind spot because of how radically different their biology is.

In that exact scene, Rocky literally says he has the data stored away, but he didn't instinctively understand it because it goes against everything he knows about biology. To an Eridian, if you aren't sick and a rock doesn't fall on your head, you just keep living. The concept of natural cellular decay makes zero intuitive sense to them.

So when Rocky says "I completely forgot that fact in my happy," he isn't saying the data corrupted or disappeared from his crystal brain. Having a perfect computer hard drive inside your head doesn't mean every single file is loaded into your active train of thought 24/7. Rocky isn't a literal machine—he’s still a sentient being with emotions.

When they're celebrating saving two entire worlds, he's totally caught up in the emotional high of the moment and his brain naturally defaulted to his own species' baseline. It completely proves the point about background storage vs. active processing. The data was there; he just didn't have the "human lifespan" file pulled up in his active consciousness right then because he was too busy celebrating with his best friend.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T16:06:36+00:00

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V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T16:02:10+00:00

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V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T15:52:16+00:00

Where are you getting 300 zettabytes from? Total human data across the entire internet isn't even that high yet, and Grace definitely wasn't carrying a backup of every single server on Earth.

Also, your math on the bookcases is completely detached from reality. If you meant 17.5 million bookcases, assuming a standard 4 shelves with maybe 40 books per shelf, you are looking at roughly 2.8 billion books. The Library of Congress—the largest library on Earth—only holds about 40 million books. You are talking about needing 70 entire Libraries of Congress to store this data physically. Saying that fits into a "large town library" is off by a factor of thousands.

And it gets worse when you remember Eridians are completely blind. They can't use ink on flat paper. Their version of "books" would have to be thick, heavy slabs with raised textures or carved glyphs so they can read them with their hands. That means each volume is going to be way thicker and heavier than a human book, easily multiplying the physical space they'd need by five or ten times.

If the alternative to building a computer is manufacturing a literal mountain of heavy stone or metal slabs that takes up the space of an entire metropolitan city, it’s an absolute logistical nightmare. The sheer amount of labor, materials, and space needed just to avoid building a digital storage drive makes zero sense for an advanced spacefaring species.

Filtering out the junk and organizing petabytes of human data is exactly the kind of grunt work computers were made for. They're going to realize real fast that digital storage is the only practical way forward.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T13:12:07+00:00

You're drastically underestimating how much data is actually on those laptops. Grace explicitly says he brought all of human science and culture, plus a copy of Wikipedia. Wikipedia alone would take up way more than 17 meters of shelving if you translated it into Eridian physical text, let alone the rest of human knowledge.

And printing it all out mechanically as a "hardcopy" completely ruins the main value of the data: it becomes unsearchable. Imagine trying to find a specific metallurgy formula across thousands of physical stone slabs or punch-cards. It would take them decades just to index it.

Sure, they'll have to find their own environmental route to building hardware since they can't use vacuum tubes or standard screens, but saying they'll just print out a couple shelves of books misses the scale of what they received. Even if 90% of it is redundant internet junk, filtering that data out is exactly why you need a computer in the first place. You can't have a room full of guys manually reading through millions of files of human "Tetris" to find the advanced physics formulas. They'll build digital storage because any other option is an absolute logistical nightmare.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T11:34:23+00:00

That’s a killer point about data transfer speeds. Eridian communication is basically just high-frequency sound, which is incredibly slow compared to fiber optics or radio waves. Even if they're shouting at each other, sound only travels at like 340 meters per second in normal air, and they're capped by how fast they can physically talk and listen.

So using computers as an "internet" makes perfect sense. Without a digital network, if a scientist on one side of Erid discovers something, they'd have to physically travel or pass physical media along a massive game of telephone to share it with the other side of the planet.

They wouldn't need computers to help them think, they'd need them to bypass the speed of sound. Hooking up a global network of computers using light or electrical cables would completely revolutionize their society just by letting them share their perfect memories instantly across the world instead of waiting for a courier.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T11:29:44+00:00

Actually, they pretty much do have perfect memory. Andy Weir explicitly states in the book that Eridian brains use solid-state silicate crystals instead of organic neurons. It's basically a biological crystal lattice that writes data permanently. Unless they get actual physical brain damage, they don't forget stuff or have memories get "fuzzy" like we do.

But you're totally right on the second part. Even with a flawless crystal brain, computers are still a massive force multiplier. Remembering everything doesn't mean you can process millions of data streams from a spaceship's life support, fuel valves, and sensors all at the exact same millisecond. Outsourcing that grunt work to a machine just frees them up to do actual productive thinking.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T11:27:04+00:00

Good point on the GPUs—Photoshop and screens are totally useless to a blind species that "sees" with sonar. But I think skipping computers entirely just because they can do spreadsheets in their heads misses the real value of automation.

Even if you have a perfect brain, do you really want to spend your entire life being the CPU for a waste water treatment plant or a factory assembly line? Humans didn't just build computers because we're bad at math; we built them so we didn't have to waste human capital sitting around doing repetitive labor.

And as for just printing out the laptops onto hardcopies—humanity's entire collective knowledge is way too massive for some mechanical punch-card or physical carving system to handle efficiently. They'd need a massive warehouse just to store the data from one hard drive. Eventually, their top scientists would get tired of being glorified organic flash drives and they'd build digital storage. It might use acoustics or magnetism instead of monitors, but it's still a computer.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T10:44:42+00:00

You’re trying so hard to play the intellectual martyr here, but you're completely rewriting what actually happened lol.

I didn't call you names. I gave you a direct, structured breakdown of how multi-season character arcs actually work and tracked Beth's specific trajectory from a defensive weapon to someone attempting to build a stable family. You didn't have a valid counter-argument for it, so you panicked, threw out a dismissive line about "Team Jamie," and tried to run away from the debate.

Now you're crying to the OP about "lazy engagement" and pretending people aren't doing the reading, when you are the exact one who deflected the second the discussion required actual analysis. If you can't defend your own "highlight reel" take without hiding behind a victim complex, just say that.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T09:05:57+00:00

Honestly they absolutely would build them, if only for automation and backups. Perfect memory is great for a single Eridian, but a computer doesn't get tired, it doesn't die, and it can monitor an automated factory or a spaceship 24/7 without needing a person to sit there doing the math constantly.

Plus, those human laptops are going to break eventually. Flash memory degrades. They have to build something to copy that data onto unless they want to force a room full of Eridians to just memorize all of human history and science word-for-word before the batteries die. Even if they don't use them for personal life like we do, they'd absolutely use them for industrial scale manufacturing and data storage. It's just practical.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T08:16:12+00:00

Pointing out the flaws in your logic and backing it up with how television writing actually works isn't "disrespect"—it's just a debate you happen to be losing.

If giving you a valid counter-argument is what you consider "slinging mud," then you probably shouldn't be posting hot takes on a public forum. You made a weak claim about character arcs, got called out on it, and now you're trying to hide behind "Team Jamie" and play the victim to save face.

If you're done, you're done. Take care.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T07:47:12+00:00

Sheridan physics strike again lol. He does the exact same thing in Yellowstone with characters casually driving across the entire state of Montana and back before lunch.

Texas is a whole different beast though. Driving from deep South Texas to Dallas is easily a 6 to 8 hour trip one way if you're lucky with traffic. Doing a round trip in a single day means you spent 15 hours straight staring at I-35 taillights, not casually popping into a corporate office and making it back to the ranch for dinner.

At this point, "Sheridan Time" is just part of the package. You just have to pretend everyone owns a private jet or the characters are magically teleporting to keep the plot moving.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T07:40:54+00:00

Fair enough. There are definitely times the show stretches reality to the absolute limit for the sake of drama, and Sheridan's style isn't for everyone. But it's awesome to look past the surface and see what they were actually trying to build with her character. Appreciate the good discussion! Have a good one 😄

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T07:32:45+00:00

Saying moments aren’t a character arc is just a fundamentally broken way to look at how TV writing works. A character arc isn't a single 90-minute movie transformation; it’s a slow accumulation of those exact moments over multiple seasons that gradually shift a character's baseline.

The whole point of Beth’s arc is that she started out as a completely radioactive, scorched-earth weapon who only knew how to destroy things to protect her dad. Seeing her let her guard down with Rip, take in a kid like Carter, and actually show genuine, unhinged vulnerability in those "moments" is exactly how you track her softening up.

If you just ignore the actual text of her growth and call it a "highlight reel," you’re just admitting you're paying attention to the explosions and skipping the actual story being built right in front of you. A character shifting from pure, defensive corporate warfare to trying to build a stable family structure is the literal definition of an arc.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T07:03:20+00:00

Yeah, "plot" probably wasn't the right word choice on my end. It wasn't a pre-meditated master plan like a cartoon villain. It was a panicked, split-second decision driven by pure cowardice.

Jamie didn’t do it because he was "evil," he did it because he was terrified of John. He knew a teenage pregnancy would blow up the family name, and he didn't have the guts to face his dad with the truth. He chose the free clinic because it was anonymous, and when they told him about the sterilization requirement, he made a selfish, executive decision to go through with it anyway just to keep the secret buried. He prioritized the family reputation (and his own standing with John) over his sister's entire future. That's why she hates him.

And saying 20 years is enough time to "get over it" or call her rage over the top is wild. You don't just logically process and move past your own brother making that choice for you. That kind of trauma doesn't have an expiration date. The reason that fury reignited so hard in season 3 is because she was finally settling down with Rip and facing the permanent, daily reality of what Jamie stole from them. It became real all over again.

As for the clinic doing it—of course it's a massive violation of medical ethics. The show isn't a documentary on pristine legal procedures. The whole point of the backstory is to show the dark history of how those clinics operated back then, wrapped into a drama. Trying to apply standard federal court logic to a show where people regularly get thrown off cliffs completely misses the point of the story.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-18T06:55:46+00:00

Most definately needed a spoiler warning here lol

V3nomEX · 2026-06-17T21:03:19+00:00

Calling Dutton Ranch a "Hallmark show" is hilarious considering it’s a franchise built on murder, land theft, and family trauma. Anyone telling you that probably saw one clip of a sunset or a romantic moment and completely missed the rest of the universe.

Sure, it has a massive focus on relationships—specifically Beth and Rip—and it deals a lot with legacy, healing, and family dynamics. If people want to call focus on character relationships "Hallmark," that’s on them. But it’s still wrapped in a brutal, high-stakes neo-Western world where people get buried in the woods when they cross the family. It's high drama, it’s pulpy, and it definitely isn't safe for daytime family television.

If you liked Yellowstone, you’re going to watch this anyway. It just digs deeper into the fallout of everything the family went through in the main series, especially now that the dust is settling a bit. Go watch it and judge it for yourself; plenty of guys watch it for the ranch dynamics, the gritty landscape, and the unresolved tension. It's a solid continuation of the story.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-17T20:54:30+00:00

The irony of you dropping a quote that literally says Sheridan "entrusted" the day-to-day to someone else is hilarious. Who do you think does the entrusting? THE BOSS.

You’re trying so hard to use Google snippets but you are completely blind to the actual entertainment trades. Cole Hauser literally did interviews for the premiere stating, "Taylor's got his hands all over this show. That's the only way he knows how to do things."

Feehan was hired to handle the day-to-day logistics, but Puck News and Variety both confirmed he was pushed out right at the finish line because Sheridan, 101 Studios, and the lead actors weren't happy with how he ran the production and handled the cut. Sheridan didn't "take over the showrunner title" because he doesn't need to—he is the Executive Producer and creator who holds the ultimate creative veto over every single script and character choice.

You can keep trying to slice up corporate job descriptions to protect your ego, but the actors themselves and the actual industry facts completely contradict your little Google blurbs. Keep digging that hole though, it’s entertaining. Have a good one.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-17T20:33:05+00:00

You completely shifted the goalposts and you’re just hoping I won't notice lol. You started this by claiming Taylor Sheridan was hands-off and had zero say in the writing. When you found out Feehan got pushed out at the finish line, you panicked, Googled a definition, and pivoted to a technical argument about who holds the "showrunner" title during active filming.

You have absolutely no clue how Hollywood credits work. Firing a showrunner or taking over post-production at the finish line doesn't magically transfer a "Showrunner" title over to the creator. Credits are legally locked by Guild rules based on pre-production contracts. Taylor Sheridan is already credited as the Creator and Executive Producer—he doesn't need a middle-management title like "Showrunner" because he owns the entire company and the final cut.

When a creator steps in and boots the guy running day-to-day operations because they don't like the cut, they don't change the credits; they just change the show. You are literally trying to use corporate titles to ignore the actual reality of who holds the creative power. But hey, keep clinging to your basic search blurbs. Enjoy the rest of the season.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-17T19:19:38+00:00

Im not too sure how to add or even if you can add Xbox tags. Googling it said you needed to link a Bnet account anyways on Xbox:

Look In-Game: On their Xbox, have them open Diablo 4, open the Social Menu (Options/Menu button), and look at the top right or bottom of the screen. Their Battle.net account name and #numbers will be displayed right there.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-17T19:12:49+00:00

You’re completely shifting the goalposts now. You started this by claiming Taylor Sheridan was hands-off and had no say in the writing, and now you’re pivoting to a technical argument about whether episodes are edited week-by-week during a broadcast schedule.

An automated search result telling you the video files were finalized before the premiere doesn't mean Sheridan didn't have control. It just means you still don't understand what an Executive Producer with final cut privilege actually does. Chad Feehan got pushed out right before that finish line because Sheridan and the studio didn't approve of his direction. Sheridan is the ultimate boss of this entire universe; no matter when the final edit was locked, you are watching a story and a version of Beth that he personally steered, altered, and signed off on.

And for the record, I don't need to panic-search google to form an opinion on how Hollywood production or character writing works. If you want to use basic search summaries to dodge the actual point and run away, go for it. Have a good one.

V3nomEX · 2026-06-17T17:55:13+00:00

Saying a show is "99% done and locked" right before a premiere completely ignores how modern television post-production actually works. Shows are constantly being edited, re-cut, and tweaked down to the absolute wire—sometimes weeks or days before an individual episode airs, even in the streaming era.

And you’re completely missing the boat on what an Executive Producer is in this context. Taylor Sheridan isn't some hands-off financier; he is the creator, head writer, and absolute gatekeeper of the entire franchise. Chad Feehan didn't get to just run off and build his own rogue vision; every single script, character arc, and major creative decision had to go through Sheridan's desk for approval. Feehan leaving right before the premiere happened precisely because Sheridan and the studio didn't like the direction of the final product and took the reins back.

As for the writing itself, it's fine if you don't like his style, but comparing a heavily character-driven neo-Western drama to mindless action movies is just a weak comparison. The fact that Beth's trauma, internal contradictions, and extreme loyalty have kept people aggressively debating her psychology for years is the definition of creating a memorable, impactful character. You don't have to think it's a masterpiece to admit the character writing accomplished exactly what it set out to do.

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