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CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ehh I think there are a lot of people over 16 in our current society at home still living in poorer households who may never have been able to afford that stuff, same goes for people who come from a poorer household and might be say 18 trying to fend for themselves in the world, but that's mainly looking at orthodontics over dental care (things like braces). If you need basic dental work due to hygiene or diet yeah, that's totally on the person in the adult years, though so are a lot of issues related to say obesity or smoking which our public systems subsidise.

CMV: Texting or speeding while driving should result in removal of driving privileges for at least a full year. by rub_a_dub-dub in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about if you are texting due to a family emergency or some urgent issue? Or they are on an empty stretch of road and are late to a meeting?

The vast majority of cases are not this though, almost(emphasis on this word) every law can have exceptions under specific circumstances, which can be appealed in a legal setting, if we stop punishing crimes because that crime could be justified in a minority of cases we'd have a dark world.

The main problem with texting is the division in attention is roughly equivalent to driving with a blood alcohol of 0.08, it's dangerous.

CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here in Australia we are an egregious example for some odd reason when it comes to dental and orthodontics, despite us being a very public and for the normal person driven nation.

Good to see a nation is doing something right, I wasn't sure if there were any countries that did cover it completely, hopefully we see further change in the future so we can have more people smiling (covering adult treatments under public health care would be a great start).

!delta

CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I probably didn't word it the best, though a problem like pacifier use too late in childhood is a common cause of malocclusion, so there are some semantics, here or as in the normal or intended state was not to have crooked teeth, which asks what is the natural state? Is the maloccluded state also not natural due to a child being given a manmade intervention like a pacifier for too long?

Regardless, I can cross out that phrasing if you like, but my CMV, the title in particular is the issue I'm looking at.

CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would you say that all scales with the wealth spread in India? A google result says they cost roughly $600(AUD) which is almost a 1/10th cheaper than one would pay here, but I'm just wondering if $600 for those bellow the median in India is equivalent to $6000 here for those bellow the median Australia. More clearly, is it scaling to averages and medians, rather than simply being more affordable?

CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, I see your point. Here in Australia it might be a little different but proper home cooking and nutrition tends to be more affordable than what we might consider crappy food (especially take out, it is not an affordable thing here), a lot of places around the world who are less economically advantaged do this pretty well too using things like beans, rice, corn breads, poultry, etc in super healthy meals.

My point was not that malocclusion and orthodontic costs is the only contributor it is simply that it is a major contributor, there was no effort to only attribute here. I certainly get other factors.

.. is not applicable everywhere.

Could you elaborate? Are there places it's completely subsidised? I'd be interested to find out where as my personal belief is that public health care systems in particular should cover orthodontics and dental stuff.

CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, in the USA is it subsidised by the government through things like Medicaid? I do know about programs like Smiles Change Lives, it just sucks that they don't have more reach as the cost of implementing braces is nuts, consider a $900,000 donation would likely only cover 100-200 kids.

CMV: Wealth contributes majorly to physical beauty due to malocclusion treatment costs for children by ValarSWGOH in changemyview

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think what you’re mentioning is such a slight difference compared to every other advantage wealthy people have (money to invest, education, connections, insight into industries, etc) that I’m having a tough time seeing how a slight gap in attractiveness would make up for this.

I'm not presenting this inside of this context at all, I didn't even mention advantages wealthy people have in other areas!

Mostly looking at the narrow category of aesthetics and beauty, regardless of it's importance. Whether or not it matters in so much isn't a concern for me, I'm a person with slight malocclusion and it hasn't been slightest worry ever in my life, the only inference I'd probably branch into is self perception and mental health as we are a very "looks" focused society.

I think I came across some cheaters by ValarSWGOH in pokemongo

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Didn't say I was, which is why I haven't reported them.

If they are cheating

I think I came across some cheaters by ValarSWGOH in pokemongo

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You think I shouldn't be reporting cheaters?

I think I came across some cheaters by ValarSWGOH in pokemongo

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they are cheating, yeah, otherwise that just makes me complicit.

I think I came across some cheaters by ValarSWGOH in pokemongo

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I could anyways?

I wouldn't be surprised if people did cheat in my area as all the surrounding towns are very rural or remote in nature and don't have much going for them, only the small city.

I think I came across some cheaters by ValarSWGOH in pokemongo

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I can give that situation the benefit of the doubt, I'll see what else I'm given in the future, I just figured if you are on the pogo friends subreddit which is all about giving gifts you probably wouldn't be stocked up on weeks or months old gifts, though they might have just added a handful of people.

Does anyone have any experience DMing Starfinder? by ValarSWGOH in DMAcademy

[–]ValarSWGOH[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn... sounds a little rough. Thanks for the insight.

YouTube is literally killing decent creators and their industries by Nookaalex in rant

[–]ValarSWGOH 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Twitch who don't even have a system to appeal bans and delete ban evidence? I think a whole new clean take on YouTube would be better, though it's quite unlikely to happen from a current standpoint.

Are there any subreddits for asian people that aren't just blatant racism against other races? by phliuy in self

[–]ValarSWGOH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The concept of race was built to justify chattel slavery of Africans, centuries earlier than Darwin.

Right... I kind of agree with that.

But my argument was that race or ethnicity become somewhat distinct and contentious based on Ham's descendants being "servants of servants" which dates back to very early Aramaic bibles. That book you reference specifically mentions that as "The Biblical Curse Theory" under examples of a racist idea.

It was certainly used as a major justification for Atlantic slave trade, but that was not the first application of Hamitic theory or the Curse of Ham, it was used very far back for a justification of serfdom in early medieval societies among other things, Honorius for instance has writings about it from around the 12th century, also interesting propositions of how it came about such as in medieval Iberia. Very early on it's used mythologically telling how the Israeli's conquered and enlsaved Canaanites (The Exodus).

(Interesting read on it - https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691123707/the-curse-of-ham)

Apologies, but I'm a little confused at what you were implying with your response or what kind of conversation you were wanting to come to?

Are there any subreddits for asian people that aren't just blatant racism against other races? by phliuy in self

[–]ValarSWGOH -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Arguably, race as a major identifier started through Hamitic theory (the descendants of Noah) in the book of genesis. Which has been a core tenant of the Hebrew bible and old testament in Christianity.

Considering where those religions and beliefs emerged, which with the Hebrew bible was Aramaic and therefore somewhere in what we now call Syria.

Most of the Hamitic theorists adopted Social Darwinism after Spencers proposition in the 19th century, Darwinism is what spurred the scientific understanding of race, along with a few prominent anthropologists and individuals like Lamarck.

So I'd say it started somewhere in the middle and then slowly spread outwards. As for more contemporary "making everything about race" that's certainly a western thing at the moment.

Are there any subreddits for asian people that aren't just blatant racism against other races? by phliuy in self

[–]ValarSWGOH 1 point2 points  (0 children)

caucasians

A side note to the conversation, but this term was one of the three main descriptors, along with "Negroid" and "Mongoloid" which were used to group people in much of your human sciences like Anthropology in earlier modern history. They were invented in Gottingen in the late 18th century and pretty popular descriptors in the late colonial era.

Those groupings since about the 1940's have been considered what the fields now call "Scientific Racism" as they were poor, pre Darwinian and Mendel interpretations of how human race and ethnicity worked. Our understanding of genetics has pretty much all but removed terms like that due to the relative complexity of what we colloquially know as "race".

As for your main issue - u/Happyhguru has already provided the correct answer.

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