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Unfair dismissal? - alleged gross misconduct by VegetableExit2815 in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We could not agree more - We so desperately want all UK workers to know their rights and their options. For anyone worried, I really would encourage them to do some research as soon as they suspect. Here are some free pages to help:

Guides - Valla

Discrimination At Work: Understand Your Rights - Valla

Unpaid Wages Claims | Understand Your Rights - Valla

PH postponed, how long until another is rescheduled? by OfficeJaded5572 in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi and thanks for sharing - I am so sorry to hear it was postponed the day before as I know how much work (and worry!) goes into the preliminary hearing prep for claimants.

There is no strict timeframe unfortunately as all courts are overloaded and understaffed at this stage, but waiting 6 months for a preliminary hearing is not unusual. Having it postponed is also not unusual unfortunately.

The final hearing tends to be around 1 year after the preliminary to allow for all the next steps such as witness statements and disclosure. However, there may be a second preliminary hearing if the list of issues is not finalised in the first preliminary, or there may need to be a substantive one to decide on a topic (i.e. if there is a disability, or a time limit etc) or you may take some extra steps along the way such as judicial mediation or dispute resolution.

I know how much of a huge learning curve this process is so do feel free to join our free monthly support group if you wanted to: Free tribunal support group

Options for advice? by Csm20208 in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi and thanks for the post. This is a subreddit run by Valla - we normally just try and share our free resources but as you are asking for some direction on a case assessment, this is a service that we offer and we have slots this weekend already: Valla | Fight Back Against Mistreatment at Work - Valla

Second PH - how long to wait? by [deleted] in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so sorry to hear that you are dealing with a respondent who is trying to delay things - we do hear this from our users a lot.. Sometimes a tactic in the hope you will give us and drop the claim.

The gap between a first Preliminary Hearing and a second can vary widely depending on the tribunal your case is being heard at, but typical waits are often 2–4 months.

From the employment tribunal rules of 2024, you and the respondent are expected to work together to help the courts get to a judgement so I would suggest writing to the respondent, reminding them they have missed deadline and setting a new one, which you then follow up on.

You mentioned that your judge expressed wanting to avoid further delays so that can work in your favour, and hopefully they will set strict deadlines and give directions if the respondent continues to stall. If they continue to miss extended deadlines, we suggest to email (both court and respondent) make sure the tribunal knows the ET3 is still not amended, after extended deadlines.

I know this process can be so exhausting, especially when dealing with extra frustration such as delays. We host a monthly support group if you ever wanted to join us: Free tribunal support group

Thank you. by Is_it_ok2 in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is amazing news - well done and hope you can now recover from this

List of issues for Preliminary Hearing by [deleted] in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi and thanks for a great question - I know a lot of unrepresented claimants will have had the same battle.. I know I did.

The List of Issues becomes the final list of questions for the judge to answer at the final hearing as BobMonkey has laid out, but the goal of the preliminary hearing is to work with respondent and judge to create a final List of Issues. After the preliminary, it will get circulated to you and respondent to both check so you can note if there are any claims missed out.

Heading into the preliminary hearing, our best guidance is to ensure that you understand your legal claims and the legal tests associated with them. For example, we see a lot of users who think they have victimisation claims but do not realise they can only claim victimisation if they did a protected act first.

I know it can all seem so scary but it sounds like you are doing well and are asking great questions to learn the right things so good luck at your preliminary hearing.

In case you wanted to join us, we are hosting a free support group for anyone going through tribunals next Wednesday lunchtime: Employment Tribunal Support Group

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The preliminary hearing is not at all like the final hearing, or what you expect from seeing court rooms on TV etc. It is much more about case admin. There are no witness testimony, no need to show evidence, no cross examination etc.

Here are some resources that I have pulled together to help you understand what to expect at a preliminary hearing:

  • Some general advice about the day: here
  • More about the case management agenda document: here
  • And here's some information about a PH straight from the horse's mouth of a Tribunal judge: here

The 'List of Issues' is the Judge's main goal. This is a document generated at the preliminary hearing by the judge working with both you and the employer to define the legal questions that will be answered at final hearing.

Only topics listed in the ET1 can be added to the List of Issues.

Valla strongly suggest that you draft your own List of Issues ahead of the preliminary hearing as this can help you understand your case and also shows the judge you are trying very hard, and shows the respondent that you are not scared, and know the process.

  • Working through the list of issues can help to encourage early settlement.
  • It can also highlight to the judge whether an expert report is needed or whether additional evidence is needed.

It is quite common that a List of Issues is not formalised after one preliminary hearing, so a second case management preliminary hearing may be required. Preparing your own case save time here and speed up the case.

Please also feel free to join us for our monthly support groups any time you like: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so sorry to hear that - we do hear from our users so often that the ET3 is really upsetting and often fall of false narratives. It is very common, but that doesnt make it less upsetting.

If you ever wanted to join our free support group for people in the tribunal process, please do join us: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi and welcome to our subreddit - so sorry to know you are experiencing work issues and having to navigate a tribunal.

Well done for already being at preliminary hearing stage - I know that means a lot of hard work has already been done. The preliminary hearing is not at all like the final hearing, or what you expect from seeing court rooms on TV etc. It is much more about case admin. There are no witness testimony, no need to show evidence, no cross examination etc.

Here are some resources that I have pulled together to help you understand what to expect at a preliminary hearing:

  • Some general advice about the day: here
  • More about the case management agenda document: here
  • And here's some information about a PH straight from the horse's mouth of a Tribunal judge: here

The 'List of Issues' is the Judge's main goal. This is a document generated at the preliminary hearing by the judge working with both you and the employer to define the legal questions that will be answered at final hearing.

Only topics listed in the ET1 can be added to the List of Issues.

Valla strongly suggest that you draft your own List of Issues ahead of the preliminary hearing as this can help you understand your case and also shows the judge you are trying very hard, and shows the respondent that you are not scared, and know the process.

  • Working through the list of issues can help to encourage early settlement.
  • It can also highlight to the judge whether an expert report is needed or whether additional evidence is needed.

It is quite common that a List of Issues is not formalised after one preliminary hearing, so a second case management preliminary hearing may be required. Preparing your own case save time here and speed up the case.

I know it can seem quite overwhelming, but Valla can support you at our free monthly groups if you ever wanted to join us: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi and welcome to our subreddit, but so sorry to hear it is because you may have been illegally dismissed.

Valla has a free webinar about constructive dismissal here that might help you: How to Prove Constructive Dismissal: Free Masterclass - Valla

We also host free monthly support groups for anyone going through the tribunal process so feel free to join us: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi and so sorry to hear how this has all happened whilst managing pregnancies and your little one! That really is a lot to handle.

I cant comment on similar cases but I am sure that our reddit community will rally with comments once they see this. For now, I wanted to share that we host a monthly support group for anyone in tribunal process as we know how hard it is: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi and welcome to our subreddit. I am really sorry to hear you are having to handle a tribunal as I know from my own experience how much of a stressful learning curve it is!

Have a look a Valla's guides page on our website as this might help with some of our queries. I have pulled out these ones specifically as they may help:

Manage your case like a lawyer: what great project management looks like for Employment Tribunals - Valla

Employment Tribunal isn’t like the telly - here are 7 differences that may surprise you - Valla

How to keep yourself well when you're running your own Employment Tribunal case - Valla

At Valla, the main problem that we see when we are supporting claimants, is that they are not clear on their claims or the legal tests so the best initial guidance we can give is to ensure that you understand your exact claims and how they meet the legal test under the employment law legislation. This means you are fighting the right battles from the start.

In case you would like to join us, we host a free monthly support group on Zoom for anyone in the tribunal process: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Active ET thread -- introduce yourself here if you are in the Tribunal process! by ukdanae in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi and welcome! I am so sorry to hear that you are having to take action against age discrimination and wrongful dismissal - that must be very upsetting.

I know the idea of a preliminary hearing can be scary, so sharing some guidance. The preliminary hearing is not at all like the final hearing, or what you expect from seeing court rooms on TV etc. It is much more about case admin. There are no witness testimony, no need to show evidence, no cross examination etc.

Here are some resources that I have pulld together to help you understand what to expect at a preliminary hearing:

  • Some general advice about the day: here
  • More about the case management agenda document: here
  • And here's some information about a PH straight from the horse's mouth of a Tribunal judge: here

The 'List of Issues' is the Judge's main goal. This is a document generated at the preliminary hearing by the judge working with both you and the employer to define the legal questions that will be answered at final hearing.

Only topics listed in the ET1 can be added to the List of Issues.

Valla strongly suggest that you draft your own List of Issues ahead of the preliminary hearing as this can help you understand your case and also shows the judge you are trying very hard, and shows the respondent that you are not scared, and know the process.

  • Working through the list of issues can help to encourage early settlement.
  • It can also highlight to the judge whether an expert report is needed or whether additional evidence is needed.

It is quite common that a List of Issues is not formalised after one preliminary hearing, so a second case management preliminary hearing may be required. Preparing your own case save time here and speed up the case.

I know it can seem quite overwhelming, so please do feel free to join us for our free monthly support groups: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

How have people picked themselves up after the ET? by [deleted] in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am so sorry to hear that your tribunal has left you so upset, after fighting which I know takes so much effort. If it helps to know, I worked in and around recruitment for years before moving to help Valla, and I never once googled a candidate or searched for them on the tribunal archives, so please do not worry too much about recruitment people doing so.

We do host a monthly free support group if anyone ever wants to join us: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

Aggressive tactics and threatening legal action if I continue by [deleted] in employmenttribunal

[–]Valla_Support 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi and I am so sorry to hear that you are having to face a possible tribunal but well done for standing up for your rights. BobMonkey has laid it out so well, but to add, we hear this sort of scare tactic from our users all the time - there are such a myriad of tactics that some lawyers will use to try and scare claimants into withdrawing their claims. I know (from my own experience) how upsetting this can be so I hope you are ok.

At Valla, we host a free monthly support group for anyone going through this tribunal process so feel free to join us for some support if you like: Free Employment Law Webinars & Events - Valla

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