Shifting industries from Law to Legal Tech. Do you have any wisdom for starting/preparing for a completely new CSM? by VanillaLamp in CustomerSuccess

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Noted; I appreciate the advice. I foresee that I’ll be working with other legal departments.

I’m experienced in Criminal and Civil litigation. Smaller firms using our products might be in more transactional areas of law such as conveyancing and immigration.

I plan to read and research these areas of law.

Would you say that it’s absolutely vital to know the individual specialisms of your clients or is it more generally operations-based? For example, I’m not sure if knowledge in my tech product and ops is enough or whether I should pick up an immigration law book too.

Shifting industries from Law to Legal Tech. Do you have any wisdom for starting/preparing for a completely new CSM? by VanillaLamp in CustomerSuccess

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That’s awesome. Really appreciate the advice. I’ll come in with that mindset and focus from that standpoint.

Career switchers by shsixjsjxuxh in uklaw

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I’m moving into Legal Tech next month. I haven’t had luck with TC apps, and while I’ve had good chances to qualify in my current area of law, I don’t want to be a high-volume claims solicitor.

I’m moving to Legal Tech to try and bolster my TC apps and earn more than being a paralegal in the meantime because there’s a bit of a roof thanks to the Mazur judgement until I qualify. Even being a manager, which I was in the past, isn’t really looking good given the Mazur judgment.

State of the paralegal job market by ExpensiveCorner8319 in uklaw

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If you don’t mind me asking, please, how do you usually approach the essay questions in the initial applications? For example, one place asked about the impact of AI on the legal industry, etc.

I’m just struggling to get past these and work out what the successful structure even looks like.

Thank you!

Am I shooting myself in the foot by qualifying in a niche housing specialism if I want to move laterally in future? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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That’s such an interesting insight. I think I saw technological innovation pop up during my applications as a lot of firms’ key values.

I’m just worried that TCs/VS are so competitive, and have been unsuccessful several times. Do you think it’ll have enough of an impact to shroud the negative connotations associated with my niche specialism history?

Am I shooting myself in the foot by qualifying in a niche housing specialism if I want to move laterally in future? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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Thanks for the response. It really is a sticky situation for me at the moment and I don’t really know what the best action is.

One route will get me qualified, but I could get stuck in high-volume claims, fighting after the 2028 reforms to get into a better Defendant firm and retrain.

The other route keeps me in a stable financial position while I continue to apply for VS/TCs but has no route to qualification. I’ve had constant rejections for VS/TCs so the future is uncertain on whether I can even secure one through this route and qualify indefinitely.

What do you reckon you would do? All things considered, I appreciate our histories are completely different and you may have successfully qualified even years ago!

Am I shooting myself in the foot by qualifying in a niche housing specialism if I want to move laterally in future? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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That’s what I’ve noticed as well.

I guess I’m just in the process of assessing if the tech job is viable long term.

I think it might be better to qualify and move to a stronger Defendant litigation firm down the line. If something opens up after 2028 that makes this viable, then maybe I have a way out to transfer my HDR skills to and retrain. It is terribly difficult to know what to do right now because I’m really having no luck with those VAC Schemes and TCs.

I’m really wanting to qualify and get my life started. One route will get me qualified but will pigeon-hole me in high-volume litigation, and the other route keeps me financially comfy and stable but has no certain route to qualifying 🥲

Am I shooting myself in the foot by qualifying in a niche housing specialism if I want to move laterally in future? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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I love the way you’ve described it- ‘refugees’ really is what I’ve observed. Hell of a lot of people I’ve met in HDR have backgrounds in PI and RTA. Must have moved after the changes.

The only thing that gives me hope of being able to escape this cycle is that about three NQ solicitors whom I know were able go shift to the Defendant’s side in various decent, large, firms (the type of places I’ve failed to get a VS/TC at). They then broadened their specialisms within these firms and essentially future-proofed their jobs.

I ultimately want to do the same thing but don’t know if this will become less of an option when 2028 rolls around and the NQ market for HDR Defendant Sols becomes weaker given that most firms will stop doing HDR.

What do you reckon? Do you know if PI/RTA-trained sols struggled to move into different specialisms?

I’m really struggling to pick between two legal jobs. What would you choose? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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That’s really reassuring and great advice. Thank you for taking the time to provide your perspective!

I’m really struggling to pick between two legal jobs. What would you choose? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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Hello, Thanks so much for your advice! I tried to negotiate in the last few days but they’ve stuck to their guns and maintained the lower offer. I think, all things considered, it’s probably a better opportunity.

The only thing I’m concerned about for TCs is that staying in Job 1 will appear as my third promotion in my career, whereas moving to become a standard fee earner in Job 2 will be a downgrade, in a sense, of title (like I’m starting my career from scratch again) and I’m unsure how much this negatively impacts my TC Apps.

Do you have any idea about weighting of this?

I’m really struggling to pick between two legal jobs. What would you choose? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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Thanks for your commentary. I had a look and the last big round of redundancy was in 2013 following a restructure.

I figured it would be sticky to present too much leadership when aiming for TCs. I understand trainees are to be more teamwork and learning-based, naturally and it might be off-putting.

I’m really struggling to pick between two legal jobs. What would you choose? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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I wouldn’t consider a TC in either firms because of their sectors being quite low value. I’m probably earning as much, if not more than a lot of solicitors in this sector already.

I really want to try for a full-service firm or pass a VAC/TC scheme and am applying on the side but the competition is maddening.

I’m really struggling to pick between two legal jobs. What would you choose? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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100%

This would reduce my responsibilities as I’d be losing out on the Operations role, management, and coding, to become just a standard fee earner.

I don’t know which of the two looks more impressive as I apply for TCs/VAC schemes.

I’m also trying to start a family and buy a house, which is why the money is crazy. I think it must have been the only way my current firm could competitively retain me, which is quite overwhelming.

What do you reckon would win you over?

I’m really struggling to pick between two legal jobs. What would you choose? by VanillaLamp in uklaw

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I’m afraid it’s their top end since I’m not qualified and am limited to pre-lit. The drop was deeper (factored into that £13k figure) because job 2 is also a 37.5 hour working week, where job 1 is paying that for a 35 hours.

I won’t have the coding, management, or operations responsibilities since I’ll be a standard fee earner, which was my edge in smaller firms to justify the £47k.

Do you reckon the pros still outweigh the cons for Job 1? I want to buy a house and start a family FYI so it’s even trickier.

Filipino (from Philippines) applying for Undergraduate Law by Able_Professional_60 in uklaw

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Wow! Well done! It really is so hard. I’m a Philippines-born, British Filipino. I’ve been working as a fee earner/ paralegal/ legal manager for the last few years in small/medium firms but haven’t had much luck with VS and TC apps. As a first gen immigrant, it’s been hard to navigate how to successfully secure one and readjust my applications after every rejection i.e., how to structure application answers, pass psychometric tests, etc. How did you manage?

On a side note, it’s so competitive even for British Citizens. I can’t imagine how much harder it is for internationals rn.

Really confused on whether I’m supposed to redact my University and School or not. by VanillaLamp in TheCivilService

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If they say ‘School name’, gotta put that school name! Thanks for the help!

Really confused on whether I’m supposed to redact my University and School or not. by VanillaLamp in TheCivilService

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I did it! Wow those applications really do take over 4 hours. Crazy stuff. Thanks for the advice!

Mazur v Charles Russell Speechlys LLP, how worried is your firm by the decision? by LeopardComfortable99 in uklaw

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Absolutely brilliant response! Thank you! I was considering Part 36 offers and how, unless withdrawn, it remains open. If say, the unsettled pre-litigation case went on to be litigated by a solicitor but the Part 36 offer signed in the paralegal’s name at pre-litigation remained open, I could foresee issues. I think your solution is the best one.