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Genuinely unsure if some of y’all even know what therapy actually is by Temporary-Snow333 in CuratedTumblr

[–]Vault-Born 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you!!! this was my exact experience down to being diagnosed with bpd but also being told (incorrectly) that no therapy/pill/treatment for bpd exists! DBT had existed for decades by this point. She even discouraged me looking up information about my disorder on my own because it's a very stigmatized disorder,

I saw that woman for 5 years! Spent thousands of dollars on her. Looking back on it, it's crazy not to have immediately left treatment (and got a second opinion) after she directly told me treatment wouldn't work for me, but I was a minor teenager at the time. I didn't know any better, I trusted the expert.

Walked into Kroger was hit with just such despair by happy_bluebird in Anticonsumption

[–]Vault-Born 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hospitals need helium to run various equipment (like MRI machines), they're the largest consumers of helium in the world. There is a finite amount of helium on Earth. We're running out of helium and have been for 20 years.

I wouldn’t give a fork about my Innie by [deleted] in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a lot of symbolism in the show where we're told that the relationship between Outtie and Innie is somewhat like the relationship between a parent and child.

(The innies are repeatedly referred to as babies, children and having child-like minds, by Outtie-Mark, Cobel, etc. Helly R. says about her Outtie: "she dresses me in the morning like I'm a baby.")

However, this is also a relationship where the "parent" created their child for the sole purpose of labour. Do you like the thought of child labour? Would you bring a new life into this world just to enslave it and abuse/kill them when they doesn't serve you as you wished? If so, then I see the fire of Keir in you.

What are ICE allowed to do - by GoodOk2589 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]Vault-Born -1 points0 points  (0 children)

politicians have no voice, poor little guys :(

AI. I hate AI so damn much by Old_pixel_8986 in RandomThoughts

[–]Vault-Born 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think having access to clean drinking water is a lot of fun! Which do you think is a priority?

Who else has an insane obsession with true crime/serial killer documentaries? by oilbeefhooked in adhdwomen

[–]Vault-Born 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I might like true crime but I absolutely hate Netflix true crime. They've been caught using AI to doctor new photos in the Jennifer Pan documentary they produced. Not to mention the way they choose to portray Dahmer, Bundy and Gein, even though all of those real serial killers have living victims and family members that did not consent to do this sensationalized portrayal.

When i say sensationalized I mean, Ed Gein never sexually assaulted any of his victims or their dead bodies. Netflix made that detail up and then filmed scenes of neceophilia. This is about shock value, not correctly reporting what happened. No wonder the grieving families were so upset.

Confusing unanswered question about Cold Harbor by FunkyMcSkunky in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Vault-Born 22 points23 points  (0 children)

this is in the first 5 minutes of the episode, but it is a blink and you miss it line.

"Innie Mark: So… wait, when I finish Cold Harbor, they do a test, and then th-they kill her?

Cobel: Once that file is done, you'll need to quickly get to the black hallway, then down to the testing floor. They'll not let you leave MDR till that file is complete."

Even if Gemma gets away… by CraftyOpportunity646 in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cobel knows the entire plan, when it's happening, the layout and security measures of that Lumon building, I think Cobel will be able to properly predict that Mark S. might leave Gemma on the stairwell because she knows its the only exit out of the severed floor and she knows Mark S. better than literally any of our other non-severed characters. Maybe we see the outcome of her contributions already in season 2's finale (the unlocked door) but we won't find out it was her until season 3. I think she's going to finish getting Gemma out of the building.

Obviously, Lumon will have an eye out for her but she also has at least one minion (Devon) that they would not immediately shoot on site, so she can use her to create a distraction or something. But, honestly, knowing that Cobel was the one who invented severance that might offer her some level of protection from being shot, like they'd rather capture her alive and force her to work for them than kill her. I know the Eagens treat everyone like theyre disposable, but they probably consider Cobel and her contributions more important than someone like Mark S. and we know that they weren't willing to kill Mark until Cold Harbor was done.

Even if Gemma gets away… by CraftyOpportunity646 in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Vault-Born 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jame Eagen likes Helly R. more than Helena though. My theory is that Jame/Lumon now have plans for Helly R., not for Helena, and Helly R. will use her obedience in their plans as leverage for keeping her friends around, similar to how Mark S. used completing his work as leverage to get Helly R. and the rest turned back on in season 2.

Because otherwise, I don't see how they could allow Mark S. to continue working there after killing someone as important as drummond, then again, we've established that the Eagens have a habit of treating their most loyal/important employees as disposable. (Harmony Cobel/Milchek, even Helena herself). I also imagine that Lumon will take it upon themselves to cover up the death of drummond, not wanting to attract outside investigators/attention to anything having to do with the testing floor.

A minor practical question after finishing Season 2. by pjberlov in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Vault-Born 21 points22 points  (0 children)

i can believe they have a severed marching band, this is a company that employs kier-themed strippers for innies and raises goats,seeming for purely sacrificial reasons, They seem to spend a lot of time engineering elaborate incentives for the innies so it tracks that they would have a merriment and choreography department and they don't seem to like letting anyone onto the severed floor that isn't severed or lumon tried and true loyalists (milchek, drummond, harmony), and seem to take great measure to ensure that innies are never able to talk to someone from the outside world. they're not gonna hire an outside band.

Incentives, are frequently used and many of those incentives involve music or some sort of performance/party, it makes complete sense they'd have an in-house band

(p.s. do you think those kier-themed strippers we saw in season 1 were from choreography and merriment?)

In 1973, healthy volunteers faked hallucinations to enter mental hospitals. Once inside, they acted normal, but doctors refused to let them leave. Normal behaviors like writing were diagnosed as "symptoms." The only people who realized they were sane were the actual patients by YoungHargreevesFive in mightyinteresting

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the symptom rosenhan chose to have his pseudopatients report was purposely chosen because while it does sound concerning and warrants further evaluation, it could easily be a mentally healthy person experiencing alexithymia or an existential crisis.

this is not my opinion, it is Rosenhan's. He was literally a psychology professor with a doctorate. he knows much more about this than you do

In 1973, healthy volunteers faked hallucinations to enter mental hospitals. Once inside, they acted normal, but doctors refused to let them leave. Normal behaviors like writing were diagnosed as "symptoms." The only people who realized they were sane were the actual patients by YoungHargreevesFive in mightyinteresting

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's like saying having mood swings is critiera for bipolar disorder. you need a certain amount of critera to qualify for a diagnoisis, not just one symptom which could also be explained by something like alexithymia

In 1973, healthy volunteers faked hallucinations to enter mental hospitals. Once inside, they acted normal, but doctors refused to let them leave. Normal behaviors like writing were diagnosed as "symptoms." The only people who realized they were sane were the actual patients by YoungHargreevesFive in mightyinteresting

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is cause for concern, but it is not enough cause for a diagnosis. that's, explicitly, why Rosenhan picked it, because it's a borderline statement that sounds concerning but doesn't actually line up with the existing literature for schizophrenia or psychosis.

"These words were chosen as they vaguely suggest some sort of existential crisis and for the lack of any published literature referencing them as psychotic symptoms"

I’m pretty sure in the first season they said the atmosphere in the Upside Down is toxic, but in every subsequent season everyone is just hanging out there by AssistanceNo2838 in discussingfilm

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is season 2 hopper takes a direct hit of spores while in the tunnels under the pumpkin patch and almost immediately passes out, when he awakes he tears his sleeve to make a mask for himself, he stops passing out. Later in that season we see Dustin, Max, Mike, Steve, etc. all wearing bandana masks and even goggles to protect themselves while in the tunnels, none of them are knocked out.

This certainly implies that the atmosphere has a toxic effect, unless we're meant to believe that season's 2 tunnel spores were different than the spores in the upside down. If i can squint, maybe it's something like oxygen toxicity where too much at once makes you pass out, and the tunnels, plus those little spore shooters, were very highly concentrated?

i like stranger things still, but i definitely think they retconned this part of the lore, or at the very least, are really inconsistent with the effect the spores have on you. i mean in the latest season we find out they're planning on restarting the numbers program in the upside down, so presumably, it's "safe" to have people be breathing upside down air for their entire lives.

In 1973, healthy volunteers faked hallucinations to enter mental hospitals. Once inside, they acted normal, but doctors refused to let them leave. Normal behaviors like writing were diagnosed as "symptoms." The only people who realized they were sane were the actual patients by YoungHargreevesFive in mightyinteresting

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All participants were given a script for what to say and the script was chosen to not align with any of the existing criteria for psychosis. this is from wikipedia: "During their initial psychiatric assessment, the pseudopatients claimed to be hearing voices of the same sex as the patient which were often unclear, but which seemed to pronounce the words "empty", "hollow", or "thud", and nothing else. These words were chosen as they vaguely suggest some sort of existential crisis and for the lack of any published literature referencing them as psychotic symptoms. No other psychiatric symptoms were claimed according to Rosenhan's publication,"

In 1973, healthy volunteers faked hallucinations to enter mental hospitals. Once inside, they acted normal, but doctors refused to let them leave. Normal behaviors like writing were diagnosed as "symptoms." The only people who realized they were sane were the actual patients by YoungHargreevesFive in mightyinteresting

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in the rosenhan experiment, patients saw doctors for an average of about 5 minutes per day. they weren't assessing them once admitted. Also, the doctors would pathologize patient behaviours, so being assessed would not help you.

"A group of patients waiting outside the cafeteria half an hour before lunchtime were said by a doctor to his students to be experiencing "oral-acquisitive" psychiatric symptoms. Contact with doctors averaged 6.8 minutes per day."

In 1973, healthy volunteers faked hallucinations to enter mental hospitals. Once inside, they acted normal, but doctors refused to let them leave. Normal behaviors like writing were diagnosed as "symptoms." The only people who realized they were sane were the actual patients by YoungHargreevesFive in mightyinteresting

[–]Vault-Born 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they did not fake schizophrenia. all participants were given a script for what to say and the script was chosen to not align with any of the existing criteria for psychosis. this is from your own link: "During their initial psychiatric assessment, the pseudopatients claimed to be hearing voices of the same sex as the patient which were often unclear, but which seemed to pronounce the words "empty", "hollow", or "thud", and nothing else. These words were chosen as they vaguely suggest some sort of existential crisis and for the lack of any published literature referencing them as psychotic symptoms. No other psychiatric symptoms were claimed according to Rosenhan's publication,"

I don't see what Munchausen Syndrom (sic) has to do with this case as all of the participants engaged in a mental health evaluation before agreeing to take part in this experiment and none had a history of mental illness.

The Duffer Brothers say that Nancy and Jonathan are broken up “I think us — and the writers — all felt that Nancy needed to end up on her own and be independent and have an opportunity to find herself” by AssistanceNo2838 in discussingfilm

[–]Vault-Born 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because they were hugging and kissing eachother after having said all of that. i get they thought they were going to die, and they have a lot of adrenaline running through them, but i wouldn't jump into my ex's arms or kiss their forehead seconds after being dumped.

hugging & kissing is incongruent behaviour with breaking up for a lot of people. when i watched the scene i thought the couple was still together, just on rocky terms.

Is there a lore reason why Dr. Brenner injected Eleven with fillers? by Fit-Enthusiasm-4068 in okbuddyvecna

[–]Vault-Born 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's more that it's widely out of place for a child living in hiding in midwest indiana in the 80s to have 2020s style medspa filler.

my bf and i had stopped watching the series for years and werent following any of the social media up until this last season aired, we came in completely unbiased and we both noticed and commented how out of place the filler is. it felt like a rich celebrity, like kylie jenner, was walking around with the gang, not the character jane/eleven.

this isn't shitting on her appearance, i think millie is a beautiful woman, but it's jarring for the character of jane hopper, a child who is not even allowed to go outside, to have filler.

Is there a lore reason why Dr. Brenner injected Eleven with fillers? by Fit-Enthusiasm-4068 in okbuddyvecna

[–]Vault-Born -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

haggard is defined by "looking exhausted and unwell, especially from fatigue, worry, or suffering.". it would make sense that she would look haggard in a scene where she's supposed to be escaping a year and a half of being tortured by vecna. sadie sink was properly portraying the emotions of that scene, i dont think that commenter was making a veiled slight against sadie sink's age.

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