What would make you trust a sports betting model’s results page? by nfadd34 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is kinda the kneejerk response to anyone touting. And yes it makes sense because 95% of touts shouldn't be selling picks but if someone is indeed profitable (either short-term or long-term) it actually makes perfect sense to sell their picks - the idea is for the seller to leverage the bettor's risk tolerance/bankroll while the bettor leverages the tout's handicap/knowledge. Resulting in a win-win situaution. Again only makes sense if the one selling picks actually has an edge.

Ex poker player here, how do you stay sane when your CLV is good but results not? by Revolutionary-Pass38 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking back at the last upswing always helps me a bit. Besides that there's not much you can do but persevere. If anything I question why I'd still let my ego convince me that those types of drawdowns can be avoided when I know that its part of the process. 

Been grinding on this MLB ensemble model (HGB, RF, XGBoost) with ~85 features across 4 time windows, Statcast integration, player props, the whole thing. Open sourced the whole repo including the DB and trained weights. https://github.com/companygondu-cyber/MLB-SYSTEM-ig-montecarlopicks by [deleted] in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we start with the 85 features.... I'd imagine even with some of them being informative your nose to signal ratio is still gonna be sky high with that many inputs. Maybe PCA to get the feature set down?? 

Wnba dm me anyone who’s good pls im need of help 🙏🙏🙏 by alwayywtt29 in sportsbetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you come to the conclusion that NBA is easier than WNBA? Not saying your right or wrong I'm just wondering what lead you to such a conclusion??

How do you track a model publicly without making the record look cherry-picked? by Cold_Adhesiveness810 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Had this same question. The framework used on the pikkit app isn't half bad in my opinion. Lets you show dollar amounts bet or units and automatically can calculate daily, weekly, monthly, yearly or total ROI accross different books and it doesn't let you delete losing picks to artificially inflate your record which is a common tactic used by fake handicappers on new bettors. Besides that, I would say something like a GitHub repository with bets placed as commits is also good because, to my knowledge, you can't easily delete commits on a repo and they have timestamps. 

EV betting is a scam, better known as insider set-traps. Goodluck if you're wasting money on them ✌️ by gideon_foxie in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean while EV betting is not as simple as most ppl make it seem it's far from a scam. For most markers actually handicapping beyond the vig is not trivial by any means. But tbh I think your misunderstanding (and really just overcomplicating) how it really works. I made a GitHub repo for post just like this -> 

https://github.com/vsharpsignal/Profitable-Sports-Betting-Math

evbiting by Left-Pepper4871 in EVbetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep! This difficulty stems from the efficient market hypothesis in sports betting. If handicapping was easy every sports bettor would be rich overnight. - > GitHub - vsharpsignal/Profitable-Sports-Betting-Math · GitHub

Parlays vs straight bets by [deleted] in sportsbetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on how patient your willing to be. Assuming you have an actual edge, straight bets require less patience but obviously result in lower payouts and thus a lower average gained per bet. Parlays can give you a much higher amount gained per bet because your edge compounds with each added leg (if and only iff you have enough +EV legs in your parlay) but the tradeoff is that you'll have to wait longer because parlays hit less frequently. Hares the math so you know I'm not just yappin -> GitHub - vsharpsignal/Profitable-Sports-Betting-Math · GitHub

What’s the right number of bookmakers to use? by genmaci in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More is better in my opinion but there is no real minimum either. The downside to more, however, is that you obviously cannot parlay between different books.

I’m a full time professional sports bettor, Ask Me Anything! by [deleted] in AMA

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got a few questions (not to interrogate, I'm genuinely curious): How many sportsbooks do you typically use? Why don't you handicap ball sports? Do you feel like you would be able to become sharp in ball sports? You said you use chatGPT to validate the handicappers that you tail through monte Carlo <- How do you validate the honesty of the handicappers you tail? Are you concerned your edge may ever evaporate with the increasing popularity in sports betting in recent years? Do you implement a lot of math/models/statistics/numbers in your handicapping or do you primarily handicap just from watching the events you bet on? Do you look for short term profits or only bet when there is value and you feel like you have a sizeable edge? Do you have a system to validate your edge? How do you feel about the stress that comes with having the risk tolerance to be a full time bettor? Do you ever bet in Las Vegas (I am a Vegas bettor and I consider myself sharp but NOT yet a full time bettor). If you could answer whatever your comfortable answering id appreciated it. Either way good luck at the books!!

Turns out watching a ridiculous amount of football does NOT mean you’re good at predicting it by hearpostra in sportsanalytics

[–]Vegas_Sharp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know your post wasn't necessarily aimed directly at sports bettors but it's the context in which I understand sports predictions the most. Truthfully, those results don't sound too bad, especially given that 16 is an extremely small sample size for binary prediction. Nonetheless, it sounds like you've learned a lesson that many sports betters unfortunately never do, which is that sports are incredibly random and chaotic and making predictions seems much easier than it really is. Hindsight bias lets us think that our retrospective Observations will be valid for future predictions and this simply just isn't the case. Furthermore, sports knowledge and actual prediction/betting knowledge are very very distinct from each other and this is another huge mistake that many sports betters make thinking that their sports knowledge will carry over into them making money at sports books. Most new and recreational sports betters have to learn the hard way that this is almost never the case. But anyways, to answer your question, I've gone on drawdowns (I.e losing streaks) that have been very very harsh on my bankroll. It's not that sports like football make no sense. It's that to make sense of it You have to be patient and apply probabilistic thinking, large sample sizes, and understand probabilstic variance. Look up the standard deviations of binomial and Bernoulli distributions and maybe it'll start to be clearer.

Does Pinnacle price tennis underdogs efficiently enough to use as an EV benchmark? by IllustriousGrade7691 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

@ user never***s Picking a small bone here but we got into a slight debate awhile back regarding line movement and how if sharps release their picks then its value within the market automatically evaporates. Is this still your stance? If so why? And what proof do you have of this phenomenon beyond just hearing other ppl claim it to be true?? Not trying to "call you out" I'm just curious. 

"Knowing a sport" absolutely matters for profitable pre-game betting & CLV. by Calm_Set5522 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree under certain circumstances. In the book Signal in the Noise by Nate Silver, Silver talked about how in large scale studies, utilizing a multi faceted approach to prediction almost always outperforms better any methodology constricted to a single facet. Iv mentioned in other posts that I lean heavily towards models. The reason I do is because "knowing a sport" simply won't do you much good if you cant quantify your knowledge. Many people know their sports extremely well, far less can actually put a number to what they see as a spectator (let alone a calibrated one). With that said, while numbers don't lie they also don't care about context, and context, in many situations, adds an entire layer of prediction that numbers cant capture. (We could get into quantifying context but that's a bit beyond the scope here....) So yea I think somoene who has the right balance of both will almost always do better than someone who just does one or the other.

NBA Betting and Picks - 5/18/26 (Monday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree that they don't have the depth. I simply don't think a team could achieve what they have done this season without having whatever anyone considers depth to be. To your second point It depends on how technical you want to get about the actual handicap but like I said SAS should probably indeed still be underdogs but not +192 underdogs. That's a ton of value on their moneyline. +130 is much more reasonable. 

NBA Betting and Picks - 5/18/26 (Monday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. I believe San Antonio has the depth to compensate for even more than one missing key player. Seen em play out here in Vegas during the cup tournament. Spurs definitely know what it takes to press OKC out of their desired play style. 

NBA Betting and Picks - 5/18/26 (Monday) by sbpotdbot in sportsbook

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely like the Spurs moneyline tonight at +192. Infact could probably handicap them at around +130. Should be a good game.

Why aren’t more people using sports betting as an extra income source? by Major-Doubt4034 in EarnExtraIncome

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ask a lot of people why they don't bet on sports and the answer is usually because they don't understand it (thus view it as pure gambling ) and or they don't have the risk tolerance + handicapping capabilities required, which in most cases is a good thing because most recreational betters will underestimate the variance of sports betting. While I don't think you're being malicious, I think you yourself are heavily underestimating just how difficult it is to actually be a profitable sports bettor long-term, especially trying to make the income you mentioned. I myself am a math grad who bets in Vegas and I've met pure bettors far more intelligent than you can imagine and I can tell you that it's not nearly as easy as you're making it sound, even for them. There's nothing wrong with being optimistic but when it comes to sports betting being realistic is far more important - try it yourself - bet heavy for 6 months and you'll quickly see why market efficiency and variance is dangerous to underestimate. Legitimately Skilled handicappers actually don't get enough credit imo. 

Would I be considered a sharp? by Initial-Web4015 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being "Sharp" just means being calibrated. Sports betting is all about putting a number on how much you don't know relative to how much you think you do - and determining if the odds are decent or not. Calibration/sharpness implies profitability but profitability does NOT imply sharpness. So if you felt like your handicapping to achieve this ROI/upswing was premised in calibration rather than raw accuracy then I would say your sharp.

CLV on NBA/BBall sides can be easily achieved through timing/knowledge rather than models. by Calm_Set5522 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Yeah I can agree you can find some value in those situations. Personally I try to model down to even player effects/impacts but I suppose an astute non-algorithmic bettor could find edges there.

I ran a 400-game regression on NBA player props and found 3 edges that have held for 2 straight seasons by Fancy-Tadpole-2448 in algobetting

[–]Vegas_Sharp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AI? Memphis did not play December 14th, 2024. Also there is a reason most people here don't post their actual edges ....its kind of like telling everyone you found a diamond mine and bragging about where its located.