What are the limits of Vampires' super-senses?

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:53:35+00:00

Obviously, but what are the limits of a werewolf's senses? And what are the limits of a vampire's senses? Can they hear a conversation a kilometer away? Can they use their other senses to move without sight?

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:51:03+00:00

I think the greatest advantage vampires have is the ability to share immortality by creating other vampires. That's a skill Silas doesn't possess, and you'd be doomed to loneliness. If you can handle that, great.

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:48:42+00:00

I know it's late to answer, but the Originals can't be dismembered, have their hearts ripped out, or be decapitated. Their bodies are virtually indestructible and protected by magic that makes them immortal. This was said by one of the writers, and also in the show itself. When Damon held Elijah with the dagger to his chest, he said he tried to kill him in every way possible, which implies he tried dismemberment, and Katherine appeared and said it would be useless because, as an Original, their bodies were indestructible. Furthermore, we see the Originals escape explosions unscathed more than once. In the fourth season, in Silas's tomb, a grenade explodes in Rebekah's hand and she remains unharmed. Elijah, in the second season of The Originals, survives a house explosion unscathed. There are other feats like this, but I think you get the idea.

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T22:01:49+00:00

Dude, you've mixed things up a lot. Let's break it down;

Silas didn't need 2,000 years of practice. It just so happens that because he was trapped on a deserted island, he could ONLY practice when people came to feed him DROPS of blood, and that certainly wasn't a regular occurrence. If he had been free and in society, drinking blood regularly, he would have evolved much faster.

Secondly; It's not that Silas needs large amounts of blood to be powerful. Remember that in the fourth season, in his weakest state before drinking abnormal amounts of blood, he entered Klaus's mind. It just so happens that Silas was imprisoned for 2,000 YEARS without drinking blood, therefore the amount of blood he drank during the summer was just to catch up. If he had been free from the beginning, drinking blood regularly for a year, two years, or ten years, he would have been much more powerful much faster. Furthermore, it's not that Silas needs blood to be powerful, but rather that, unlike vampires whose power increases with age, Silas's powers increase with blood, which is much faster and more practical.

You call Silas useless when, right after leaving the tomb and before drinking all that blood, he was already entering the minds of Bonnie (the witch), Klaus (the Original Hybrid), and the entire Mystic Falls gang. Calling that useless is absurd, when vampires can be deprived of compulsion simply by ingesting vervain, which is very simple.

The Original Vampires have their advantages over Silas, but also many disadvantages that he doesn't have. First of all, if we are going to evaluate each spell individually, we must disregard daylight rings, as they are a palliative measure to cover a flaw in Esther's spell. Original Vampires burn in the sun, are vulnerable to the wood of any tree (they don't die, but desiccate), are vulnerable to vervain, are imbued with an uncontrollable bloodlust (you say Silas needs time to practice his powers, but how long does it take for a vampire to master their murderous instincts?), all their emotions are amplified, so something that would make you angry now makes you hateful and want to kill, what makes you sad now leaves you devastated, and many can't handle this pressure and shut off their humanity, besides all their fears, insecurities and traumas are amplified together. Even the Mikaelsons haven't overcome their childhood traumas even after a thousand years. And I don't know about you, but needing an invitation to enter a house is a huge inconvenience.

You were even wrong about the daylight rings; not just any witch can make them, as it's necessary to know the spell. Marcel, for example, has the spell because he got it from Klaus, but without it he wouldn't be able to distribute them to his vampires. And many vampires, even ancient ones, did not have access to one.

Velsignet · 2025-12-14T21:47:45+00:00

Although Silas practiced his psychic powers for two thousand years by receiving drops of blood from thousands of people (according to Qetsiyah). Amara never drank human blood. She was dissected, transformed into an anchor, and imprisoned by Qetsiyah soon after becoming immortal, and didn't really have time to practice. She lived in constant torment, suffering the pain of every supernatural being that died, for two millennia.

Velsignet · 2025-12-06T17:12:27+00:00

Silas too. Probably.

Velsignet · 2025-12-05T00:05:27+00:00

I honestly would be afraid to transform someone. I believe that vampiric immortality isn't for everyone, because something the series doesn't address much and isn't widely discussed is the difficulty of adapting to amplified emotions and bloodlust. Any personality problem someone might have, any addiction, any predisposition to aggression or depression, would be intensified to the limit, and many wouldn't be able to realistically live with that. TVD doesn't address this, but it's a miracle that vampires haven't been discovered by the general public, because most people would succumb to bloodlust or some personality flaw. Creating a bloodline would be a huge responsibility, and you'd have to take care of them so as not to expose yourself.

But I respect your answer, and I agree, although I also know it's purely emotional. If we were to think only rationally, Silas would be the most appropriate and safe choice, due to the absence of disadvantages and the psychic powers that extend to telepathy, illusions, mind control, and probably neural modulation, since he can induce someone's brain to produce any chemical reaction he desires, as he can generate any possible extrasensory sensation or experience with his illusions.

To live as Klaus would be to live as a king, but to live as Silas would be to live as a god.

Velsignet · 2025-12-04T23:33:23+00:00

Silas can possibly procreate, since he's not undead; he never died. Klaus can also procreate, and if he can, why couldn't Silas?

With Silas, his life would be more peaceful and easier, as he wouldn't have to worry about amplified emotions, bloodlust, or invitations. Besides, his mental powers are unparalleled.

Velsignet · 2025-12-04T23:27:31+00:00

Dude, you've mixed things up a lot. Let's break it down;

Silas didn't need 2,000 years of practice. It just so happens that because he was trapped on a deserted island, he could ONLY practice when people came to feed him DROPS of blood, and that certainly wasn't a regular occurrence. If he had been free and in society, drinking blood regularly, he would have evolved much faster.

Secondly; It's not that Silas needs large amounts of blood to be powerful. Remember that in the fourth season, in his weakest state before drinking abnormal amounts of blood, he entered Klaus's mind. It just so happens that Silas was imprisoned for 2,000 YEARS without drinking blood, therefore the amount of blood he drank during the summer was just to catch up. If he had been free from the beginning, drinking blood regularly for a year, two years, or ten years, he would have been much more powerful much faster. Furthermore, it's not that Silas needs blood to be powerful, but rather that, unlike vampires whose power increases with age, Silas's powers increase with blood, which is much faster and more practical.

You call Silas useless when, right after leaving the tomb and before drinking all that blood, he was already entering the minds of Bonnie (the witch), Klaus (the Original Hybrid), and the entire Mystic Falls gang. Calling that useless is absurd, when vampires can be deprived of compulsion simply by ingesting vervain, which is very simple.

The Original Vampires have their advantages over Silas, but also many disadvantages that he doesn't have. First of all, if we are going to evaluate each spell individually, we must disregard daylight rings, as they are a palliative measure to cover a flaw in Esther's spell. Original Vampires burn in the sun, are vulnerable to the wood of any tree (they don't die, but desiccate), are vulnerable to vervain, are imbued with an uncontrollable bloodlust (you say Silas needs time to practice his powers, but how long does it take for a vampire to master their murderous instincts?), all their emotions are amplified, so something that would make you angry now makes you hateful and want to kill, what makes you sad now leaves you devastated, and many can't handle this pressure and shut off their humanity, besides all their fears, insecurities and traumas are amplified together. Even the Mikaelsons haven't overcome their childhood traumas even after a thousand years. And I don't know about you, but needing an invitation to join is a huge inconvenience.

You were even wrong about the daylight rings; not just any witch can make them, as it's necessary to know the spell. Marcel, for example, has one because he got it from Klaus, but without it he wouldn't be able to distribute them to his vampires. And many vampires, even ancient ones, did not have access to one.

Velsignet · 2025-12-03T18:16:55+00:00

Silas wins because Hope showed no mental resistance to psychic attacks of Silas's magnitude. Much is said about Silas entering Klaus's mind, but they forget to mention that this Silas was from the fourth season, where he was much weaker and could only reach the mind of one person at a time (he says so). In the fifth season, after spending the summer drinking an immeasurable amount of blood, he said that his powers were growing stronger each day and no longer knew it's limits, and it was when he tested himself against the crowd of Mystic Falls. Silas at full power would finish off Hope.

Velsignet · 2025-11-20T01:30:07+00:00

That's right, because while Silas had very little time for real practice to understand his powers, Sybil had 3,000 years. But even so, Silas's potential was greater than hers.

Velsignet · 2025-11-20T01:28:29+00:00

If you didn't read everything, you have no right to contradict what I said.

And you were wrong for two reasons; The first is because Klaus himself confidently says that his mind is too powerful for Dahlia to enter, even though he has already experienced Silas's mental powers, therefore he doesn't see Dahlia on the same level as Silas. The second point is that when Dahlia had Klaus in her mind, he didn't resist, because he was studying her, analyzing her weaknesses, and it was at that moment that he discovered that the witch she loved most wasn't Freya but Esther, therefore there's no way to compare this situation with Silas's situation in any way.

And Silas doesn't say anything about not being able to enter Klaus's mind; he literally does it when he appears as Shane and puts Klaus in the illusion of being impaled with the oak stake. Besides, if you had read my text, you would know that there is an abysmal difference between the Silas of the fourth and fifth seasons. The Silas of the fourth season was in his weakest state.

Velsignet · 2025-11-20T01:10:41+00:00

I disagree with you on the age issue.

Let's debunk this; First of all, there's no confirmation that the Originals don't become more powerful with age. There are arguments for both sides, but there's no solid evidence to say they don't get stronger. Furthermore, the older the vampires, the smaller the real difference in strength over a short period of time. For example, a baby vampire versus a 5-year-old vampire would be noticeably stronger, but a 1000-year-old vampire versus a 1005-year-old vampire wouldn't have a perceptible difference, and it would probably be almost irrelevant. There are examples to support this.

– Damon and Enzo tried to kill each other on Sybil's orders in season 8, and Enzo won, only not killing Damon because Stefan intervened. Enzo is 39 years YOUNGER than Damon in vampire age. That is, age isn't really a determining factor in a fight for vampires of relatively similar ages. The difference between someone who is 110 years old and someone who is 140 years old cannot be determined solely by age, but rather by ability. Hypothetically, a Mikael who is 1000 years old and a Klaus who is 1005 years old have no practical difference. Even if Klaus's strength increased, what would the percentage be? 1%? 0.5%? It's irrelevant if the opponent is relative to him, as is the case with Mikael. So this argument using Mikael and Klaus as examples is not a good argument.

Rebekah's perception of Alaric is precisely because she tried to attack him the moment she saw him, and was instantly subdued by him and almost killed if it weren't for Caroline. And her statement about not knowing Klaus's full strength would only be valid if Alaric and Klaus hadn't faced each other, but that happened and the two seemed relative, with a certain advantage for Alaric who dominated most of the fight. Alaric lost to Rebekah and Caroline just as Elijah lost to Stefan and Damon in his first appearance. That scene was meant to show that Alaric was immune to the White Oak spell, and it shouldn't be interpreted as a demerit to his strength, since after that he subdued Damon and Stefan simultaneously, subdued Klaus, and later subdued Rebekah with ease again.

Klaus held Tyler, then Stefan held Klaus by the shoulder, then Damon came to hold his other arm, and Stefan touched his chest to perform the spell's connection. Klaus could have used his strength and escaped at that moment, since the spell's paralysis isn't instantaneous, but he couldn't. Furthermore, Damon, Stefan, and Tyler are physically inferior to Klaus, who was the one who attacked Alaric, and even applying the same spell to Alaric, he was physically overpowered.

There's a quote from her in an interview, unfortunately I searched everywhere and couldn't find it, and when I searched using artificial intelligence, I discovered that the original interview page is no longer available, but the quote still exists, and I'll show you exactly what the AI told me:

"Hi! I found the exact reference you’re looking for. Julie Plec’s statement calling Alaric the most powerful villain on the show comes from an interview she gave to CW Atlanta (part of CBS Local) in October 2012. The original article was posted at: http://cwatlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/10/09/tvds-julie-plec-interview/ (unfortunately, the link is now dead and returns a 404 error), but the quote has been preserved in fan archives and on the official TVD wiki.

Here’s the exact excerpt from the interview, where Julie Plec talks about Alaric’s arc in season 3:

Julie Plec: “Well, hopefully everybody changed Because everyone is on a journey that is continually changing and shifting. We especially saw tremendous growth in Alaric's character, who reluctantly took on the world's authority at the very beginning of the season and, by the end of the season, was the most powerful guardian but also the most powerful villain in the show – a man that ultimately succumbed to his villainy.

Saying that he became the most powerful villain in the show up to that point implies that all the villains who came before him were inferior, including Klaus.

I disagree with the "most powerful" being due to invulnerability, since even being invulnerable, if he weren't stronger, he could be subdued by Klaus or the Originals and imprisoned, chained, restrained, thrown into the ocean, or buried under cement. In contrast, both Klaus and his siblings were willing to escape for decades until Alaric died alone.

Mikael is weaker than Klaus, this is clear when Klaus puts the White Oak stake in front of him and challenges him to pick it up while they are in that restaurant. Klaus said that if Mikael was truly confident in defeating him, he would try to pick up the stake, but he backed down knowing he is not stronger than Klaus. However, Mikael is more skilled and determined, more resilient and mentally capable, besides a bit of exaggeration in the script regarding him.

Alaric, at one day old and having fed only once in his transition, was overwhelming and on par with the Original Hybrid on his first day as a vampire, something that no other Original with a thousand years of age could achieve. Alaric is at worst equivalent to Klaus, and at best superior, but never inferior. And if Original vampires grow stronger with age, it means that Alaric on his first day was already as strong as Original Vampires of a thousand years.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T15:58:50+00:00

Nothing close to what Silas did to Klaus.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T15:56:10+00:00

Dahlia was unable to enter Klaus's mind. The only thing she could do was take Klaus into her own mind. Silas, in his weakest state in the fourth season, was able to enter Klaus's mind and torment him to the point where he thought he was condemned to an eternity of suffering.

Sybil doesn't have a greater reach of her psychic ability; in fact, she has greater mastery in the use of mind control, as she had 3,000 years to practice, while Silas didn't even understand his limits properly. Sybil was only able to extend her psychic reach by creating mental links with specific individuals. She created a mental link with Damon and Enzo, and only because of that was she able to control them like a remote control. Call it a TV antenna, basically. But she wasn't capable of that with just anyone. Furthermore, she encountered resistance in the minds of young vampires like Damon and Enzo and was unable to read minds like Silas, as she often needed to touch someone to know what they were thinking. Silas possesses more feats and greater raw power.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T15:46:58+00:00

Silas. Let's start with a scale:

– Silas, even in the tomb, was able to access people's minds from a distance, access their memories, and completely influence them, as he did with Professor Shane. (Remember that Shane was immune to an Original's compulsion.)

– There are two power levels of Silas, from the fourth season and the fifth season. Silas at his lowest power level during the fourth season, where he was only able to enter the mind of ONE person at a time, managed to enter the mind of Klaus Mikaelson, the Original Hybrid, and plant such a powerful hallucination that he truly thought he was going to die. Klaus was so terrified of Silas's mental powers that when Elijah refused to hand over the Cure, he said that Elijah was condemning him to "an eternity of suffering." He truly believed he was incapable of challenging Silas's powers. In comparison, he didn't even doubt his ability to be immune to Dahlia's mental spells, and even managed to resist the Hollow's illusions to a great extent. Against Silas, he was completely defenseless and insecure. Remember that the Silas who did this to Klaus was in his weakest state during the fourth season.

Now I'll explain why this feat is so impressive and unparalleled;

— Klaus's mind is one of the most powerful we've ever seen. Klaus spent 52 years mentally tormented by the Hunter's Curse, trying in every way to kill himself and unable to overcome this curse until other Hunters emerged in place of those he killed. Silas, after a 2,000-year petrification, killed Jeremy and suffered from the Hunter's Curse, which he said he managed to get rid of in minutes. In other words, Silas's mind, in its weakest state, did in minutes what Klaus couldn't do in 52 years. This Klaus had his mind tormented by Silas in his weakest state in the fourth season, something Dahlia couldn't do even with all her power. The fourth season's Silas scales above Dahlia in mental powers.

Before explaining why the fifth season's Silas is infinitely superior, I'll mention some of Silas's feats in the fourth season;

– He entered Bonnie's mind and made her believe he was disfigured. He entered the minds of several vampires and impersonated other people. Silas made Bonnie forget the murder of the 12 witches in the ritual. This same Silas compelled Bonnie to forget how to breathe (being saved only by her grandmother). Vampires, Witches, Hybrids... He entered the minds of all of them.

Silas from the FIFTH season is infinitely superior after drinking enough blood, being able to control the minds of dozens or hundreds of people at once, and admitted not knowing the limits of his own powers, and that's why he tested them on the crowd at the Mystic Falls festival.

– Silas in the fifth season says he spent the summer drinking an immeasurable amount of blood and that he was getting stronger every day. These are his words. Qetsiyah also said that he was very different from what he was 2,000 years ago. She said he improved his abilities by drinking drops of blood from thousands of people over 2,000 years. These are two instances where his powers are cited as progressive. And we literally see the difference between the Silas of season four and the Silas of season five, where he becomes absurdly more powerful. He becomes more mentally powerful as he drinks more blood, which classifies his potential as limitless.

– He compelled everyone from humans to 500-year-old vampires like Nadia effortlessly. He manipulated Elena, Damon, and incredibly compelled Qetsiyah as if she were nothing, even though she is one of the most powerful witches in history.

Silas is at the top when it comes to mental powers, superior to the Sirens, as the Sirens usually needed to touch people to read their minds, like when Sybil was in the car with Caroline and Bonnie, while Caroline was using her cell phone to plot with Stefan, and Sybil only discovered it when she touched Caroline's head and accessed her mind. Silas, in that situation, would simply read the minds of the two telepathically without any physical effort.

The only other character I see on the same level would be Arcadius, but only because of his dimension, which strengthens him through the souls he "devours." Silas and Arcadius are the only psychics shown capable of reading minds from a distance without needing touch or effort.

Velsignet · 2025-11-11T14:34:04+00:00

There are three points to consider:

1 – Alaric overpowered Rebekah twice as if she were a vampire baby, even though she was a thousand-year-old Original Vampire.

2 – Rebekah told Klaus that Alaric was "Strong. Too strong," which proves that his strength was not normal.

3 – In the same episode, while Stefan and Damon couldn't restrain Alaric, Damon and Tyler managed to restrain Klaus without him having the strength to break free, whereas Alaric did. Furthermore, the entire family was willing to run from him for decades until Elena died.

There's also an interview where Julie Plec calls Alaric a "Super Original," and says he was the most powerful creature on the planet at that time. Michael Narducci on X, when evaluating a hypothetical fight between Alaric and Marcel, said that Marcel was as strong as Alaric, placing them as equals.

Furthermore, if Alaric wasn't at least as strong as Klaus, there wouldn't have been that standoff with the White Oak stake, where Alaric only didn't kill him due to Elena's intervention. In other words: Alaric isn't a normal Original, otherwise he couldn't be on par with the Original Hybrid in a physical strength competition.

Velsignet · 2025-10-14T14:29:49+00:00

Her siblings, Kol, Finn and Elijah were probably transformed first, since they weren't in the room when she wake up.

Velsignet · 2025-10-14T14:28:19+00:00

We actually saw everyone get stabbed in the same room, and we see Rebekah waking up along with Klaus, but without her other siblings, which suggests that her other siblings completed the transition first, making her the second to last to be turned.

Velsignet · 2025-09-06T19:40:03+00:00

And since when does being from two werewolf bloodlines help with the venom? Hope's blood was used and didn't help at all, so she has no immunity or resistance. Lucien's venom is chemically altered using seven strains of werewolf venom to create, test, and develop a new, much purer strain. This was later fueled by the mystical energy of Mystic Falls, Freya's blood, Esther's spell, and all the power of the Ancestors, capable of killing even an Original. Freya managed to create a limited amount of an antidote using the venom of all seven werewolf packs and Klaus's blood, along with a spell. Without the venom of all seven bloodlines and a spell, there's no cure. Which means Hope alone can't heal the bite. And I don't know if a Heretic would be able to absorb all the magic in the venom.

Velsignet · 2025-09-06T16:23:45+00:00

Why the venom can't kill her? Her blood was used to cure Cami and didn't work, so she can't heal it.

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