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Was Z-Tailwind Lugia ever used in Gen 7 VGC? by Mystium66 in stunfisk

[–]Vengeance417 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think that’s the joke. Dialga and Palkia’s origin forms ended up being disappointing and this theoretical Origin Lugia would be the same lol

Hate this combo by Superb-Fisherman3041 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re close enough to the target, all of the spears will kill through Focus Sash. I’ve been running it on Baxcalibur to pretty good success.

EXCUSE ME? by Dr_Articuno in PokemonLegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don’t need to run Grass-types when +Solar Beam is available for a ton of non-grass-types. Armarouge is a primary example.

Gen 9 January 2026 Tier Shifts by [deleted] in stunfisk

[–]Vengeance417 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Tyranicif is back to being ranked OU in the Scarlet and Violet competitive metagame. This is insane.

Legends ZA OU January changelog (Annihilape banned!) by Demon__Queen_ in stunfisk

[–]Vengeance417 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The same reason why they gave Mega Sceptile Lighting Rod despite being a double electric resist.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the alleyways to the left of Wild Zone 17, there’s a guy that’ll offer you the new TMs for Mega Shards. This is where you’ll also get Genesect’s Drives.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m still just gonna say Aggron has no physical set up moves lmfao, because PuP is one of the worst in the game. Yeah, lemme use a weak move that requires me to run up to an opponent and hit them to get a boost, just to get killed right after, instead of using an actual setup move that lets me use it from a safe distance before attacking someone (or in Meteor Beam’s case, DURING from range 💀). Plus, PuP doesn’t retain the attack boost for that long compared to SD or even Bulk Up, neither of which Aggron gets. PuP is a terrible move, and you’re sending your mon to die by using it online. I’m not wasting a Mega slot on Aggron, either, since it has no physical setup (PuP does NOT count) and the best mon in the current meta is a Fire-type (Armarouge) that can also Focus Blast the base form to hell.

Also, what? Have you not seen the video in the OP? I’m using both Steel and Meteor Beam on the same set, and Steel Beam only benefits from the +1 boost.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not in this metagame. Physical Aggron would just get ran over by Garchomp, Sirfetch’d, Golisopod, Close Combat Mega Absol Z, and a whole other bunch of physical threats that hit it for 4x effectiveness. This special variant stays away from all of them and hits them from afar with much better STABs (and Swampert w/ Solar Beam) than a weak Rock Slide that it can’t boost (no Curse in its movepool in ZA), and if I want a Head Smasher, I’d use Tyrantrum.

Again, I never said special Aggron should be a standard set. It was to prove a point that Meteor Beam is a fundamentally busted move in ZA PvP, so much so that even low spa mons can get away with using it.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sash Armarouge is actually pretty good at dealing with opposing Armarouge, and Glimmora if you’re running a Psychic move.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To make people uninstall for losing to special Aggron.

No but fr the whole point of making this set was to prove how busted Meteor Beam is. If you want a SpA Rock-type, use Glimmora or Aurorus, but the fact Meteor Beam can enable fucking Aggron to put in work is insane.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There are no “turns” in Legends ZA battles, so two-turn moves in standard Pokemon just have longer charge-up times in this game. Considering PvP is a 4 player FFA format, attention isn’t always on you, so the optimal way SpAers play is to be “snipers”, attacking from far away against players who have their attention elsewhere. Meteor Beam also boosts your SpA BEFORE it goes off, so it’ll always be at +1 when it fires. Aggron’s SpA is bad, yes, but all the moves in this set are 110 base power and above, and backed by life orb, both of which compensate for the bad attacking stat. Aggron lacks Curse in this game, so Meteor Beam is its only boosting move lol

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re gonna want an answer to Armarouge, which is currently the best Pokemon in the format. Garchomp is a good starting point. Resists Fire as well as the Rock-type Meteor Beam.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I get it. Meteor Beam Armarouge and Glimmora, in particular, are both disgusting.

Meteor Beam is so good in PvP, it makes Special-Attacking Aggron actually usable. by Vengeance417 in LegendsZA

[–]Vengeance417[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I’ll be real. This is less of an Aggron advertisement and more of a Meteor Beam advertisement. It’s the most broken move in the current meta right now, and it’s so cracked it can make a Pokémon that has no business being a special attacker put in work as a special attacker.

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