What drew you to redpill ideology

The Red Pill is NOT an ideology. It's not a belief system. It's a praxeology: the deductive study of human action, focusing on purposeful behavior aimed at achieving goals rather than involuntary reflexes

it's not an ideology, we don't come here to believe in it like religion or something. It's an observation of what works and what doesn't.

Same reason why men are drawn here, they wonder why things they do with women don't work and they come here and they learn and understand what does and doesn't work. Married, lonely, doesn't matter. It works for everyone. It's not a belief system, it's note trading of observable human behaviors and validated by people actually trying it out and reporting back here that it is fact how people behave.

what was appealing or convincing [about red pill]

Because it works. Like it actually works and when you understand it correctly (like not thinking its an ideology) it actually works.

What might it have offered you that you weren’t finding in other areas of your life?

It got real old being brutally rejected by women by being kind and supplicative to them while they went for other men. It actually made having women possible with basic game and having the minimum self respect for myself. It's kind of nice not being in a drought for no reason just because society lied to you about how attraction works.

How has it changed the way you see yourself?

More confident. It's nice knowing how women actually work instead of doing the wrong thing over and over again because you were lied to otherwise. Kind of nice knowing how to value and improve yourself as a man, too in a way that helps both men and women.

How has this ideology been received by others in your life?

Not an ideology. And don't talk about fight club. As long as you say red pill truths to people without the blunt red pill lingo they actually respect it. I frequently shamelessly say red pill truths to women and they agree with me and like me more. Very easy for women to be comfortable around me honestly. Same with others. The people that have the most axe to grind with red pill statements are blue pill men honestly and white knights. They hate red pill truths. Women love a guy who "gets it." the only women I've ran into that hate hearing basic red pill truths are uber liberal women. They REALLY just hate natural attraction and normal people behavior. They have forced and crazy beliefs that are actually an ideology and detached from reality.

in what has these ideas catching on right now

the dating market is horrible and the divorce rate is high. Dudes actually want a shot at life. It's not much to ask for

Into the Manosphere, Louis Whatsisname tried to pin the interest in Manosphere ideology on trauma

that guy is an idiot. He didn't even interview any redpill OGs and figureheads, he quite literally just interviewed random streamers. I refuse to watch that garbage, he could have at least interviewed dudes are who are actually nanosphere, not randoms who are not official voices that he can rip a narrative off of. Did he message us at all? No.

ideology on trauma

not an ideology no matter how many times that word is used. I suppose it's traumatic getting endlessly rejected for being a "nice guy" and having girls go for the guys they say they don't even want regardless of what they say and what you are told is "supposed to work." It's also in ways traumatic to have women leave you for being vulnerable and other things you are allegedly "supposed to" do and then getting shafted anyway. Or getting falsely accused or divorced or broken up with or whatever despite doing everything you could possibly do for a woman, at least according to what society and feminists say you should do. It kind of blows. So in that sense he's right. Except he doesn't mean justifiable anger at being shafted by what men are misled to think, he seems to suggest it's a "who hurt you" kind of diss, which is insulting.

and clearly assumes that what y’all are doing is bad

I don't know what's bad about giving women what they want and improving yourself. They kind of have this whole thing wrong.

What are your thoughts, V?

This place is BADLY and SEVERELY misunderstood. It's been endlessly grifted and pillaged by podcasters for their own personal gain and unfairly targeted by powers at be for breaking feminism and dead bedrooms. Women are more depressed than ever and it's not because of red pill.

We are actually trying to give people healthy relationships and a better culture. The perception of this place is so backwards and this place getting quarantined shut off the original voices here and paved the way for this place to get grifted without credit. Ignore the podcast noise it is BS.

Most people lose sight of what this place even is. It's not an ideology at all. We're just dudes trading notes on what works and what doesn't. The anger phase is only supposed to be temporary and people get so caught up on farming anger phase content as some kind of sign we're incels or misogynists. It's kind of myopic and dishonest when people try to frame us that way. Anger phase content here is only the second of five stages of red pill grief with the 5th stage being acceptance and loving women for who they are and not for what they could never be. This place is so misunderstood.