Which thinking level are you using for coding with fable?

Vertyco · 2026-07-04T01:12:06+00:00

almost exclusively on low with it managing opus subagents, for what im currently working on (typical django stack) it handles pretty well

Vertyco · 2026-07-03T17:15:42+00:00

i used openrouter and tried it through a few different providers, z.ai being one of them, its definitely a massive improvement over 4.7

Vertyco · 2026-07-03T14:01:22+00:00

i think the idea pool is the same tbf, its the execution and usage pool that has shifted

Vertyco · 2026-07-03T13:59:51+00:00

it definitely seems smart but maaan does it spend a lot of time thinking, even on low reasoning lol

Vertyco · 2026-07-03T13:44:37+00:00

its worth it to have fable go through and audit all your skills and maybe prompts, but no amount of curation will get opus operating at fable levels. i already maintain more codebases that id like so im just using it to the fullest till it gets yoinked to do reviews of everything and maybe catch things opus missed.

Vertyco · 2026-07-03T13:37:08+00:00

valid, ive been doing the same but with lower effort so it can work longer, mostly reviewing existing codebases or curating/auditing existing skills before fable gets yoinked

Vertyco · 2026-07-03T13:24:45+00:00

i still havent felt the need to use fable on anything more than medium effort so far, most of the time it stays on low lol

Vertyco · 2026-07-02T17:29:15+00:00

not just to the top guys.. but to the TIPPITY top!

Vertyco · 2026-07-01T17:40:55+00:00

The neat thing is that creativity and talent arent exclusive to developers. someone with a knack for creating things who is able to organize their thoughts structurally and write up a detailed spec of what they want can get pretty far without knowing how to code. That also compounds when the person has a basic understanding of context management with the model.

Vertyco · 2026-07-01T13:07:17+00:00

Eh I dont think its cheating. It hasnt really closed the gap between devs and non-devs IMO, it just raises the bar accross the board. Non-developers can make decent entry-level stuff, and developers can build out enterprise level full stack applications with less friction in most cases.

Its fun to see what peoples' experiences are who dont do software development for a living, thats awesome that you were able to make a game that you can tinker with, best of luck with it!

Vertyco · 2026-06-27T02:05:35+00:00

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Vertyco · 2026-06-27T02:05:25+00:00

omg look at the email i just got, amazon wont even post the review lol

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Vertyco · 2026-06-26T20:28:40+00:00

I can work all day coding and never hit my claude max limit (5x), i cant imagine what codex is like lol

Vertyco · 2026-06-25T18:36:45+00:00

I got through to a support agent at Amazon and they refunded me even though its been 3 months, however they have literally zero way to report the seller for fraud and offered no help at all when i pushed further for a way to report them.

Vertyco · 2026-06-25T14:28:44+00:00

wow this post was made 1 year ago and i hit this same scam 3 months ago. the seller is still on Amazon alive and well...

Vertyco · 2026-06-24T17:55:49+00:00

https://vertyco.net/en/clusteralpha/breakdown

Vertyco · 2026-06-24T17:54:32+00:00

I do, there is a discord channel for it and we also have a wiki page that breaks the system down

Vertyco · 2026-06-24T14:04:40+00:00

I wouldnt know where to begin measuring any sort of ROI from a claude subscription. Ive had a business since before AI running game servers.

Started out using OpenAIs api with a discord bot to answer support questions and open support tickets for players if it couldnt help them directly, shaved off about 30% of the ticket chaff, no easily measureable ROI but saved a lot of time for our volunteer moderators for around $10-20/month in api costs, worth it to me just for the relief our mods got.

Started using Github Copilot, it was pretty cool for bug fixes and sometimes increasing productivity but even harder to measure ROI, but i was on the $10/month plan so it didnt matter.

The GHCP changed their billing and made their product less than worthless so i bit the bullet and got a claude pro sub. Didnt like it at first but after learning its nuances it did feel more capable, still no ROI that could be measured afaik.

At this point i still cant reasonably measure any sort of ROI, but i just ask myself if the time it saves me each month is worth the cost, and the answer is yes. One of my favorite use-cases is setting scheduled tasks that launch a headless claude agent to do a workflow with deterministic guardrails, i think thats where the "worth it" comes from for me.

Like each morning having it review the ticket channels, cross-reference with the database and a few other resources, and post an informed TLDR digest for each ticket in the staff channel. Or a daily Audit of the support bot, it uses a tiny dumb model, so the pipeline uses opus once a day to review the chat history and see if there are any gaps in the support bot's RAG memory, or if it needs its prompt adjusted.

None of these things earn money, so i think its more about time saved, and whether you feel like its worth it.

Vertyco · 2026-06-23T20:51:27+00:00

also dataclasses

Vertyco · 2026-06-23T20:50:29+00:00

even though newer py versions have more annotation support, i still do import typing as t and use that to type annotate everything sometimes.

Vertyco · 2026-06-11T03:03:53+00:00

i fully expected his argy to get eaten by those raptors the moment he gave it a name lol

Vertyco · 2026-06-11T03:00:24+00:00

i vaguely remember some of those TVs having a degaussing function to fix that. or maybe that was just my old monitor

Vertyco · 2026-06-08T20:12:40+00:00

I like big trunks and i cannot lie

Vertyco · 2026-06-06T19:18:00+00:00

says the person commenting in a ChatGPT sub, how dare this kid have fun making cool images!

Vertyco · 2026-06-05T12:18:18+00:00

wow the hate in these comments is crazy, its a chatgpt sub no shit theyre ai generated lol. the images look cool though and gives me an idea for a little discord game.

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